Run2jeepn Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 A spot I fish pretty much daily has a big amount of Long nose Gar. I like to set up a pole for them while I Bass fish... My Problem is my hook up ratio is low. My Rig is: 65lb Braid to a Steal leader. I place the Bobber to get my depth anywhere from 1ft to 2ft down. I use a Circle Hook and a Treble hook as a trailer. Then use live Shad or Bluegill has my bait. Getting Gar to hit it and run is no problem. Close to 100% hits.. I let them run stop, run again, stop again run.. etc.. Tried Setting the hook hard at different times. Tried Just getting a tight tension.. All seems good till about 5ft from getting them in. They seem to just let go. I'm only able to get maybe 1 out of 10 on land. Any tips? I've tried Rope Lures... Can't ever get them to hit them. I've spent weeks and many hours on them before giving up. Live bait is all they will hit. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 19, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 19, 2022 Jerkbait 2 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted July 19, 2022 Super User Posted July 19, 2022 I've stopped throwing lipless when I see those telltale gliding 'humps'. Some days I can't keep them off...and they aren't much fun to have in a kayak with me. Quote
Woody B Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 Nice gar. In the past I've had them hit stuff but I've never been able to keep one hooked. I've never targeted them, but there's longnoses in Lake Norman and Lake Wylie. (Maybe more lakes I fish) Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 19, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 19, 2022 They peel off all your line and jump like crazy, it’s a wild ride. And they bite nearly everything they see. They are some of the most fun you can have 3 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted July 19, 2022 Super User Posted July 19, 2022 I have caught longnose gar over 50 inches long on swimbaits, they are a fun fish to catch. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 19, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, soflabasser said: I have caught longnose gar over 50 inches long on swimbaits, they are a fun fish to catch. I think 46” is the biggest I’ve got but I hath seen thee white whale moby dick of a gar that looks over 50” surface repeatedly he’s on the hit list! Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted July 20, 2022 Super User Posted July 20, 2022 I have caught a couple big longnose gar, and they all gave a great fight for their size. They fought harder than any double digit bass I have caught. 22 hours ago, Run2jeepn said: Any tips? I've tried Rope Lures... Can't ever get them to hit them. I've spent weeks and many hours on them before giving up. Live bait it all they will hit. Try fishing with a swimbait that imitates the baitfish in the area. Make sure your hooks are sharp, since gars are masters at shaking the hook off. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 21, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 21, 2022 A single, small hook is a better choice for gar, just have to let them run for a long time, they'll most likely swallow the hook. Even guys that target giant gator gar use very small hooks. I use straight braid to help drive the hooks and their teeth won't cut it so you don't need to use a leader. You might also look at something like a rope fly if you're really wanting to try for them. 3 Quote
Run2jeepn Posted July 25, 2022 Author Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/20/2022 at 7:22 PM, Bluebasser86 said: A single, small hook is a better choice for gar, just have to let them run for a long time, they'll most likely swallow the hook. Even guys that target giant gator gar use very small hooks. I use straight braid to help drive the hooks and their teeth won't cut it so you don't need to use a leader. You might also look at something like a rope fly if you're really wanting to try for them. What Size Bait would be to big for a smaller hook? I've been hooking them here... would I be better hooking them through the nose with a smaller hook? I try to use the smaller size bluegill or Shade. What ever I catch with rod and reel. Till I replace the cast net. Not my pic, found on google Quote
Captain Phil Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 Why would anyone want to purposely catch gar? Just kidding... Here on the Harris Chain we have tons of them. Some of them are huge. I caught one on a spinnerbait in Kissimmee that was so big I was afraid to bring it in the boat. No one that I know fishes for them here. You would have the entire fishery to yourself. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 25, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Run2jeepn said: What Size Bait would be to big for a smaller hook? I've been hooking them here... would I be better hooking them through the nose with a smaller hook? I try to use the smaller size bluegill or Shade. What ever I catch with rod and reel. Till I replace the cast net. Not my pic, found on google Small baitfish or chunks of larger baitfish work best, like 3-4 inch bluegills or shad. A small, stout #1 or 1/0 hook will be plenty. Straight braid and a stout rod will help drive the hook. Quote
Run2jeepn Posted July 26, 2022 Author Posted July 26, 2022 11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said: Small baitfish or chunks of larger baitfish work best, like 3-4 inch bluegills or shad. A small, stout #1 or 1/0 hook will be plenty. Straight braid and a stout rod will help drive the hook. Never tired cut bait for longnose... I'll give it a try this morning. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 26, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 26, 2022 I caught a nice one this weekend with a dead bluegill about the size of the one in the picture. look how it “hooked” itself 1 Quote
thediscochef Posted August 1, 2022 Posted August 1, 2022 On 7/19/2022 at 4:13 PM, TnRiver46 said: Jerkbait This is a proper assessment in good taste; see below It's not a joke though - the kvdj300 I used in that picture had hooks wrapped around the snout - it wasn't actually hooked. I have also caught them on chatterbait with the hook coming up through the bottom jaw. I have come to assume longnose gar hookups as luck-based possibly more than any other species. But there are always ways to increase your percentages. Like using a jerkbait. 4 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted August 1, 2022 Global Moderator Posted August 1, 2022 6 hours ago, thediscochef said: This is a proper assessment in good taste; see below It's not a joke though - the kvdj300 I used in that picture had hooks wrapped around the snout - it wasn't actually hooked. I have also caught them on chatterbait with the hook coming up through the bottom jaw. I have come to assume longnose gar hookups as luck-based possibly more than any other species. But there are always ways to increase your percentages. Like using a jerkbait. That’s a beast!!! 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 1, 2022 Global Moderator Posted August 1, 2022 That's a huge longnose. I caught my rod and reel PB on a 4" chartreuse grub. Next to a 6' 8" rod and 30 sized reel for size reference. Tried to weigh her because I think it might have beat the state record, but instead she thanked me by biting the heck out of me and flopping back into the water. 2 2 Quote
thediscochef Posted August 2, 2022 Posted August 2, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 5:49 AM, TnRiver46 said: That’s a beast!!! Thank you sir You caught some lookers that's for sure This longnose isn't quite the water body record for that spot, which is about 28lbs. I didn't get an exact weight, no proper equipment. I would estimate about 18-22lbs. She kept jumping, I was like "aww she thinks she's a bass" ? Quote
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