Better Fluorocarbon Line

[whatevrdoumean]

Looking to switch from mono to fluorocarbon. Thinking of Seaguar Invisx or Sunline Super Sniper FC. Looking for pros and cons of each from people that use them. Easy handling, stretch, strength, and castability.  I use 12 lb Yu Zuri Hybrid now which is fine for strength but it has a lot of stretch which I know is major con to mono. Thanks for your help. Michael 

[Eric 26]

I know it’s not what you’re asking about specifically but you can try Seaguar Basix for around $10.00 and see if it feels or stretches less  than your current monofilament. This way you won’t be out of pocket a whole lot and you might wind up liking it, I know I do.

[casts_by_fly]

First time with fluoro?  I’d say get some red label or even basix to try it and get used to it. For $12 or so you get the initial learnings of fluoro out of the way and see if it’s what you want. 
 

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[TnRiver46]

Fluoro still stretches a bit but it sinks, that’s the major difference to me. For bottom baits you get a more direct connection. It’s also stiffer so when you get a bite it jumps pretty noticeably. Seaguar invisix and basix are both good stuff, I would go with basix for the initial experiment just because I had a bit of a learning curve and when switching a couple reels from mono to fluoro. 
 

are you running the 12 lb YZH on a baitcaster ?

[whatevrdoumean]

Yes. This would be on a baitcaster.

[Jrob78]

I'm a big fan of Sniper but InvizX is good too. Sunline also makes a fluoro called Sunline Super, it's another good budget option worth trying out but in my experience, a good fluoro is worth the extra money.

 

I really like fluoro for certain applications but it does have limitations. It's often stiffer than mono or copoly, which can require a little more care while casting, and it's more likely to break if not treated properly. Make sure you're careful tying knots and that you lubricate them well, fluoro can burn and weaken when cinching knots dry. If you get a backlash be careful while picking it out, bad kinks will often result in breaks.

 

Also, 12lb Yo Zuri Hybrid has basically the same diameter as 16lb Sunline Sniper. Keep that in mind when picking a lb test to use.

[Hammer 4]

My question is why do you feel the need to switch to fluro ? I have 1 rig with fluro, and that's on my spinning rig for clear water, finesse baits only.

[whatevrdoumean]

The reason for wanting to change is just that. Looking for a change. The water I fish is more on the clear side. Also looking for a little more sensitivity if that makes sense. 

[Hammer 4]

16 minutes ago, whatevrdoumean said:

The reason for wanting to change is just that. Looking for a change. The water I fish is more on the clear side. Also looking for a little more sensitivity if that makes sense. 

Just to put this out there for ya..I fished with Quality mono for many years, in all types of conditions, and caught my fairs share of bass, won a few local club tourneys with mono on a gin clear lake. As for stretch, cheap mono will stretch more than expensive mono. Sensitivity is controlled mostly with you, i.e. keeping a finger on your line at all times.

Mono also has qualities that fluro doesn't, i.e. better knot strength,  and less memory in most cases. These are things to consider if your wanting to make a change. Whatever line you buy, do yourself a favor, and buy the best quality you can afford.

[Columbia Craw]

YoZuri is one of the larger diameter per test strength.  The first time you fish with floro you will feel the difference. If the lines you mentioned are within your budget, go for it.  They both have better handling properties than Red Label or Basix in my opinion.  If you are comfortable casting a stiffer line floro has some good attributes.

[Phil77]

Of the two you listed go with the Sunline. Sniper and Assassin are great for everything but topwater. I wouldn't mess with the other brand. 

[Cbump]

4 hours ago, Eric 26 said:

I know it’s not what you’re asking about specifically but you can try Seaguar Basix for around $10.00 and see if it feels or stretches less  than your current monofilament. This way you won’t be out of pocket a whole lot and you might wind up liking it, I know I do.

That stuff is crap. Definitely move up to invisx or fc sniper. You can’t really go wrong with either. Ford vs Chevy. 

[MN Fisher]

On 7/10/2022 at 8:00 PM, Columbia Craw said:

YoZuri is one of the larger diameter per test strength.

 

On 7/10/2022 at 6:57 PM, Jrob78 said:

Also, 12lb Yo Zuri Hybrid has basically the same diameter as 16lb Sunline Sniper.

Thing is - IGFA put a number of Yo-Zuri Hybrid lines through tests...results...they rate them higher than what's printed on the label.

 

 

I use YZH 12# on my main crank rig, and 4# on my ML/MF spinning small crank rig...love it.

[Jrob78]

They should be rated higher than what's on the box because the actual line diameter is way larger than the normal diameter per lb test of most lines.

 

For the record, I've used YZH a lot and it's good line, I'm not knocking it. But if you are used to YZH and go to a different line in the same lb test it will probably be considerably thinner and in turn, not as strong as what you're used to. 

[Boomstick]

Sniper and Invizx are both very good lines. Sniper is a little stiffer, but better with abrasion. I have been using Daiwa's J-Fluoro Samurai and I really like that line a lot, exceptional handling and if you're lucky you might pay around $22 per spool, definitely a no brainer there.

 

Fluoro still stretches, but sinks and is good for bite detection on semi-slack line which are the biggest perks. It is harder to see than mono as well, which can be a negative for the angler but arguably a perk when it comes to the fish - everyone has their opinions on that so I'll leave it at that.

[WRB]

Don’t get me started on mono line stretch!

It takes over 1/3rd the line strength to begin to stretch line.

Very few MH or 4 power bass rods can apply normal rod force to stretch mono, FC , Copolymer or hybrid line .013 diameter.

I suggest Seaguar BasIX FC equal dia  to the Yo-Zuri hybrid 12 lb line. 

[ChrisD46]

9 hours ago, Cbump said:

That stuff is crap. Definitely move up to invisx or fc sniper. You can’t really go wrong with either. Ford vs Chevy. 

Based on the price point and positive reviews - both InvizX and FC Sniper should be better FC lines than Seagar's new Basix FC line , but have you tried Basix yet ? The #12 lb. and #15 lb. Basix on a bait cast reel get positive reviews and I'd say the #6 lb. & #8 lb. sizes (.010mm or under line diameter) would perform well on a spinning reel ... Definitely see no reason not to at least try Basix as a FC leader when using braid .

[Choporoz]

Invisx and Sniper are both very good.  I do think you will get slightly better sensitivity and handling.  But don't expect massive upgrade.  I still use YZH, as well as Seaguar and Sniper fluoro, and for similar diameter (and using KVD L&L) I am hard pressed to tell much difference. 

[Cbump]

1 hour ago, ChrisD46 said:

Based on the price point and positive reviews - both InvizX and FC Sniper should be better FC lines than Seagar's new Basix FC line , but have you tried Basix yet ? The #12 lb. and #15 lb. Basix on a bait cast reel get positive reviews and I'd say the #6 lb. & #8 lb. sizes (.010mm or under line diameter) would perform well on a spinning reel ... Definitely see no reason not to at least try Basix as a FC leader when using braid .

I’ve tried It. I thought I would save a little money and put 20lb basix on my swimbait reel. It’s too stiff and not as strong as red label or invisx. Took one trip to change It out. All my other reels are red label or invisx though so I had a point of reference. 
For a leader, which to me is 6’ or less, It would be fine. 

[FishTank]

Invizx would be my choice.  It's just good line but Sniper isn't too far behind. 

[Fishingmickey]

Fluorocarbon, IMHO is definitely a you get what you pay for proposition.  Invisx is a good FC line.  it was one of my go to lines.  I haven't tried Abrasx yet. I've gotten hooked on Tatsu and Daiwa Samurai fluorocarbon. Yes, they cost a lot more but I think they perform much better then anything else out there. They are thinner and more supple.  I only fill half a spool the other half is mono.  I get usually three fills out of a 200 yard spool. 

FM

[Blaine Donders]

Slack line sensitivity is where fluoro rocks. 

[Cbump]

Got a free spool of the Daiwa Samurai fluoro at the Classic a few years ago. It’s super nice. Feels more like a copoly to me as far as touch goes. Really soft and thin. 

[Gorris317]

I'm a fan of Sniper and Invisx. Sniper seems to stress less than Seaguar brand IMO. 

[zell_pop1]

YZH is not a big diameter line among copolys, that is a recurring myth I read on here.  YZH 12 lb test line is .013" which is pretty standard. Matter of fact some lines that are popular like Suffix Siege and Big Game are .014" for 12 lb test.