Super User Darth-Baiter Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 I'm talking specifically about the Yamamoto Senko stick worm. I tend to go with it Tex-Rigged on a 4/0 Gama offset worm hook. last week my friend fished side to side w me. he was Wacky Rigging it. I do admit, he did better especially with the larger fish. you use the two setups interchangeably? or one specific to conditions? I can't seem to wrap my mind around it. I think my Tex Rig is more weedless? but he didn't seem to snag up anymore than I did. I have since move on to using this set up on a bait caster. simple 12lb flouro line. I am headed to the CA Delta soon, and just pondering the setups. I will go Wacky this time. for sure. on the Delta, I might use the Spinning since I rarely dropshot the Delta, and could free up a bait caster. dunno. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 I never go wacky, I don't like the way it casts. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 10, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, roadwarrior said: I never go wacky, I don't like the way it casts. Me neither. I always feel there are better options. OP, that being said there are guys on here who swear by it and for good reason. Personally the greatest success I have with a Senko is with a nail weight in the tail Mike Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Darth-Baiter said: I'm talking specifically about the Yamamoto Senko stick worm. I tend to go with it Tex-Rigged on a 4/0 Gama offset worm hook. last week my friend fished side to side w me. he was Wacky Rigging it. I do admit, he did better especially with the larger fish. you use the two setups interchangeably? or one specific to conditions? I can't seem to wrap my mind around it. I think my Tex Rig is more weedless? but he didn't seem to snag up anymore than I did. I have since move on to using this set up on a bait caster. simple 12lb flouro line. I am headed to the CA Delta soon, and just pondering the setups. I will go Wacky this time. for sure. on the Delta, I might use the Spinning since I rarely dropshot the Delta, and could free up a bait caster. dunno. Lots and lots to unpack here. Side by side comparisons are tough to quantify. Same colors? Same setups? Same line? Same rods/reels? And I’m sure there are a few other things to consider. Personally I have not been out fished by someone throwing wacky but there a point to be made about the action being different and it may trigger more bites. I’ve never fished a weightless Senko on a baitcaster or any heavier than 8lb test and always mono. I very, very rarely have a break off and have caught smallmouth up to 5lbs and largemouth op to 8. Throw in the occasional Northern Snakehead up to 10lbs. 2 Quote
Craig P Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 If you rig a Senko wacky style vs T-rig, both weightless, you’ll notice that there is more movement in the bait when using wacky. That movement is what you are paying for with a Senko and it makes a difference in strikes in my experience. I always throw wacky unless I am in grass / vegetation for obvious reasons. 2 Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 I use a texas rig when casting into reeds, cabbage, or grass. I prefer wacky around laydowns, docks or rocks. I think either will work in either situations, but that is when I tend to find myself using the differwnt methods. Oh,.. And I will throw texas rigged on either spinning or casting rigs, but typically throw wacky on a spinning rig. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 I know the wacky rig is VERY productive, so if you like it, stick with it. My style has worked for me since 1996. 3 1 Quote
B-Gee Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 I have fished both ways, weightles, a number of times and have always had better luck with the Wacky Rig. I never Texas rig this bait anymore. Quote
Super User gim Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Mike L said: Personally the greatest success I have with a Senko is with a nail weight in the tail It’s then referred to as a neko rig. When largemouth move out deeper to the edge of the weed line (like they are here now), adding that nail weight makes a big difference in fall rate. Without it, it takes way too long for a senko to sink. Part of the reason I prefer to rig it wacky is that I use an o ring so I don’t have to penetrate the plastic with the hook. As soon as you stick that hook in, the plastic will rip or tear much quicker. 1 Quote
Cbump Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 I prefer flipping It around texas rigged. I love swinging hard on the hook sets of a t-rig. 14 lb fc. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted July 10, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, gimruis said: It’s then referred to as a neko rig. When largemouth move out deeper to the edge of the weed line (like they are here now), adding that nail weight makes a big difference in fall rate. Without it, it takes way too long for a senko to sink. Part of the reason I prefer to rig it wacky is that I use an o ring so I don’t have to penetrate the plastic with the hook. As soon as you stick that hook in, the plastic will rip or tear much quicker. I thought so but wasn’t sure as I don’t use light line on spinning rods for anything and it seems that’s what most on here do. You’re exactly right, when I’m pitching into a hard weed, pad or reed line most times it makes all the difference. Mike 1 Quote
VolFan Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 For me, wacky is more of a vertical/slower presentation where I’m target fishing. T-rigged covers more water and comes through cover better. Not absolutes, just how it goes for me. I tend to t-rig 95% of the time. 2 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 I can quantify it.... I fished a wacky rig today for my tournament. I caught 10 bass (2 keepers). The guy that won fished it weightless with a 4/0 EWG. He was 7lb in front of me and 5lb ahead of 2nd place. It was that kind of day. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 Wacky rig and weedles rigs are different actions for me. I hate throwing a wacky as it is a do-nothing kind of approach. Yes I know it catches fish but so do spinnerbaits and I am not a fan of fishing those either. I always have a weedless weightles soft plastic on a rod as they are super versatile and can be used a ton of different ways. Wacky, not so much. 1 Quote
Phelptwan Posted July 11, 2022 Posted July 11, 2022 Heavily cover dependent for me. If I'm fishing heavy cover I'll probably throw a T-Rig, but open water it's wacky. I've also found wacky skips under docks a lot easier. Quote
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