Gregorym38 Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 I have two rods, one with 10 lb mono and another with braid, with braid i always use a leader, but with the mono do i have to? I use a fluoro leader which i know induces the bait to sink, which could be a problem when throwing topwater? And if i dont use a leader, should i use a swivel or just attach to the main line, just because i dont want my line to twist Quote
garroyo130 Posted July 10, 2022 Posted July 10, 2022 Both on spinning reels? I wouldn't use a leader in either case on the mono one, but I'd probably look into switching that one to braid with a mono leader too. You shouldn't have excessive line twist with any decent reel unless you spooled the line wrong, are throwing baits that REALLY induce twist like inline spinners, or have an extremely loose drag and are allowing fish to take out a ton of line. 1 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 The one reason to use leader on mono main line is to gain abrasion resistance by stepping up the leader diameter and hardness. This is for targeting seatrout on 5-lb test, with 9-lb hard leader - bycatch includes snook and redfish. 1 Quote
Gregorym38 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Posted July 11, 2022 You guys ever have problems with line twist though? I used a texas rigged senko and i cast it out, then when it gets closer to me sometimes i just reel it in, and this twists the main line pretty bad Quote
Gregorym38 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Gregorym38 said: You guys ever have problems with line twist though? I used a texas rigged senko and i cast it out, then when it gets closer to me sometimes i just reel it in, and this twists the main line pretty bad Also, would i need a leader for these? Or at least a swivel? Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted July 11, 2022 Super User Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Gregorym38 said: Also, would i need a leader for these? Or at least a swivel? Not those. On 7/9/2022 at 11:21 PM, Gregorym38 said: And if i dont use a leader, should i use a swivel or just attach to the main line, just because i dont want my line to twist A few baits that tend to spin are better used with a swivel. Aside from those, spinning reels twist line. Just the nature of the beast. If you'd like to get away from that issue, learn to use a baitcaster. They're not without their own challenges in the beginning, but in general, line twist isn't one of them. 1 Quote
Gregorym38 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Posted July 12, 2022 20 hours ago, PhishLI said: Not those. A few baits that tend to spin are better used with a swivel. Aside from those, spinning reels twist line. Just the nature of the beast. If you'd like to get away from that issue, learn to use a baitcaster. They're not without their own challenges in the beginning, but in general, line twist isn't one of them. Birdsnest is though, lol. 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 10:21 PM, Gregorym38 said: I have two rods, one with 10 lb mono and another with braid, with braid i always use a leader, but with the mono do i have to? I use a fluoro leader which i know induces the bait to sink, which could be a problem when throwing topwater? And if i dont use a leader, should i use a swivel or just attach to the main line, just because i dont want my line to twist The abrasion advantage of fluoro over a quality mono like Original Stren or Trilene XT is minimal. If you're getting line twist using mono, you're likely getting line twist using braid. With braid, you won't notice it until it gets excessive and then you'll be frustrated with it constantly wrapping around your rod tip. Using a small, quality ball bearing swivel to attach your leader or adding one 18in. or so up your mono line will eliminate most of the line twist issues. Manually closing the bail on your spinning reel will also eliminate a lot of twist. 2 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted July 12, 2022 Super User Posted July 12, 2022 I use a mono leader often in the canals I fish for bass since these canals have tarpon, snook, snakeheads, and other fish with tough mouths. Quote
DinkDreams Posted July 12, 2022 Posted July 12, 2022 20 hours ago, Gregorym38 said: Birdsnest is though, lol. I know you didn’t ask, but if you ever do want to learn baitcasting reels start with mono. I’ve been using baitcasters for about a year and a half and bought a 1400 yard spool of Trilene XT 14lb for like $20. If I get a backlash that’s exceptionally bad, I can just respool and it doesn’t cost much. This is something I did after making the mistake of starting with fluorocarbon. 3 spools of Sunline Sniper later…… 2 Quote
jimanchower Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 2 hours ago, DinkDreams said: I know you didn’t ask, but if you ever do want to learn baitcasting reels start with mono. I’ve been using baitcasters for about a year and a half and bought a 1400 yard spool of Trilene XT 14lb for like $20. If I get a backlash that’s exceptionally bad, I can just respool and it doesn’t cost much. This is something I did after making the mistake of starting with fluorocarbon. 3 spools of Sunline Sniper later…… Or you could use braid, pull the backlash out, and keep fishing! (Nothing against mono...) Quote
DinkDreams Posted July 13, 2022 Posted July 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, jimanchower said: Or you could use braid, pull the backlash out, and keep fishing! (Nothing against mono...) True! But learning to pick out a backlash in mono is more similar to picking one out in fluorocarbon. Quote
Super User Further North Posted July 13, 2022 Super User Posted July 13, 2022 I use a leader on everything. Mostly wire ('Cuz: pike and musky) but I rig inexpensive stuff like Senkos and Ned rigs with about 7 ft. of Maxima leader. Maxima isn't something I see a lot of related to gear...it's kind of a fly-fishing thing, which is where I got it. Quote
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