Losing lures

[FishTank]

I lost another one today when my lined snapped in the spool. I thought I had it figured out but.....

 

17 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Yeah you have to get a lot of tension sometimes to cinch It down. Has to like fold back on itself. That’s not right but if you tie this knot you know what I’m talking about. Sometimes I’ll grab the hook with pliers or hook It to something and wet and pull. No slip. 

 

That knot does work.  Here is a 2lb+ river smallie. They pull like crazy.  

 

 

Another reason braid drives me crazy.  

 

[Cbump]

I wish i had an idea on the line snapping in the spool but I really don’t know what’s going on there. 

[FishTank]

2 minutes ago, Cbump said:

I wish i had an idea on the line snapping in the spool but I really don’t know what’s going on there. 

It's probably loops at the end of the cast and I'm missing them somehow.

[garroyo130]

Is this happening with all braid? I'd bet on a bad spool of line before something else ... rare but it happens.

[dodgeguy]

On 7/8/2022 at 10:09 PM, casts_by_fly said:

 

I fish 30 and 50 lb 832 now on baitcasters and yo zuri on my spinning reels. I have fished powerpro and some others in the past. I’ve never had an improved clinch that wouldn’t slip. I normally tie a 6-7 turn knot the same as my mono as I’ve tied them for 30+ years. I don’t know what I’m doing differently but I know that I just don’t bother with a clinch and braid. If I’m throwing braid it’s usually on something like a jig, frog or plastic where a palomar is quicker to tie anyway. 
 

rick 

100 percent correct. I also glue my tag end.

What brand of braid is that ? What pound test. Your braid is backlashing and you aren't noticing it and your reeling over it. Whatever that is pull it off and put Sufix 832 50lb test on it and pay attention to when it backlash. What reel is it and what type of brakes.

[softwateronly]

23 hours ago, FishTank said:

I lost another one today when my lined snapped in the spool. I thought I had it figured out but.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I use different braid but your entire spool looks too loose for my tastes.  If you're fishing a slack line presentation, you might be getting bad line lay as well.  I hope you're able to resolve it.

 

scott  

[TOXIC]

23 hours ago, FishTank said:

That knot does work.  Here is a 2lb+ river smallie. They pull like crazy

This is just a personal opinion…….I don’t understand why you would need 35 or 50lb braid for 2lb smallmouth.  I catch smallmouth up to 5 lbs on 8lb mono.  I do use 35lb braid pitching bed’s with tulies or reeds so that the braid will cut through the reeds if I set the hook on one.  Mono will snap.  

[dodgeguy]

1 hour ago, TOXIC said:

This is just a personal opinion…….I don’t understand why you would need 35 or 50lb braid for 2lb smallmouth.  I catch smallmouth up to 5 lbs on 8lb mono.  I do use 35lb braid pitching bed’s with tulies or reeds so that the braid will cut through the reeds if I set the hook on one.  Mono will snap.  

The thicker braid is used to prevent backlash and dig in. It also has more abrasion resistance.

[FishTank]

1 hour ago, TOXIC said:

This is just a personal opinion…….I don’t understand why you would need 35 or 50lb braid for 2lb smallmouth.  I catch smallmouth up to 5 lbs on 8lb mono.  I do use 35lb braid pitching bed’s with tulies or reeds so that the braid will cut through the reeds if I set the hook on one.  Mono will snap.  

The braid I am using is .08 PE/16lb, which equivalent to 2 or 3lb mono. It's almost as small as sowing machine thread. It's tough stuff though. The reel is supposed to be made for thin braid like this. So far my experience with this line has been mixed. I have caught tons of fish, it's smooth and cast well but everything else has been a nightmare. I will probably switch to 4lb FC once I grow tired of this line.

[garroyo130]

I misread that as 0.8. It doesn't look like youre fishing a shock leader ... I would add one. If switching off braid, Varivas twitch master very low stretch mono has been awesome for me in the 3lb test although I use spinning gear. 

[Woody B]

Just use mono.  

[WRB]

You are reeling over loose line after casting. Pull off any loose line after casting and keep tension on the free line as you wind back onto the spool and as you retrieve the lure.

Anglers who palm the reel without maintaining line tension between their finger during the retrieve will have issues like you are experiencing.

Tom

[TOXIC]

18 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

The thicker braid is used to prevent backlash and dig in. It also has more abrasion resistance.

While I agree the heavy braid will help with backlash as long as you are not throwing super light weighted baits, it seems I have read that braid while having more tinsel strength, actually is more prevalent to abrasion breaks.  At least that’s what I was told with the zebra mussels on lake St Clair. 

[dodgeguy]

Yes it is. But I have never found it to be really bad. Probably because I use thicker braid and retie if frayed.

[Choporoz]

On 7/9/2022 at 3:06 PM, FishTank said:

Another reason braid drives me crazy.  

 

That's the only reason that frustrates me.  Anything under 40# with spinnerbaits is a recipe for that.....for me.

[dodgeguy]

If you twitch tip up it doesn't happen

[The Bassman]

On 7/9/2022 at 3:06 PM, FishTank said:

I lost another one today when my lined snapped in the spool. I thought I had it figured out but.....

 

I sense a common denominator in all this; casting too hard. I've watched other guys baitcast and it seems like they're all trying to throttle their lure. The little bit of baitcasting I do involves a modest sidearm/underhand roll cast. I get plenty of distance and my bad shoulder thanks me. Any line dig from just catching a fish manifests itself without major issues.

  

 

 

 

 

 

[FishTank]

1 hour ago, The Bassman said:

I sense a common denominator in all this; casting too hard. I've watched other guys baitcast and it seems like they're all trying to throttle their lure. The little bit of baitcasting I do involves a modest sidearm/underhand roll cast. I get plenty of distance and my bad shoulder thanks me. Any line dig from just catching a fish manifests itself without major issues.

Could be but I watched the spool pretty good yesterday and I was getting it on a easy soft cast as well as hard casts. The looping was happening at the 3/4 part of the cast, just after the apex. The brake and spool tension settings did not matter. I found that an 1/8oz is about the lightest I can cast on this reel and the best way to cast it is sidearm and low. Any wind or the slightest interference will result in the line digging in. On a heavier lure, 3/16 or 1/4 this was not an issue. I also had to cut some line out, about 40 yards which is just a little less than half the spool capacity.  This helped as well.

[The Bassman]

2 hours ago, FishTank said:

Could be but I watched the spool pretty good yesterday and I was getting it on a easy soft cast as well as hard casts. The looping was happening at the 3/4 part of the cast, just after the apex. The brake and spool tension settings did not matter. I found that an 1/8oz is about the lightest I can cast on this reel and the best way to cast it is sidearm and low. Any wind or the slightest interference will result in the line digging in. On a heavier lure, 3/16 or 1/4 this was not an issue. I also had to cut some line out, about 40 yards which is just a little less than half the spool capacity.  This helped as well.

This illustrates why most all of my fishing is with spinning tackle these days. One doesn't have to be an engineer and meteorologist at the same time.