Jig vs T-Rigged Craw

[RDB]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Throw em both ?

 

Both are the #1 & #2 most productive lures in which ever order you wanna put em in. 

 

Why wouldn't you throw #1 & #2?

I don’t know why we are having this conversation.  He asked about benefits and situations where others use a t-rig over a jig and I shared what I do.  You have now managed to make this about your expertise and how other fishermen don’t know how to fish jigs.  I fish jigs ALL the time.  However in heavy cover, I prefer a t-rig with a heavy pegged weight.  The ego’s on this site can be quite entertaining ?.

[RDB]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

Most anglers try forcing a jig through grass which is all wrong, you gotta finesse the jig through grass!

 

When you feel the jig starting to load up in the grass...stop. Release pressure, pull up until you feel heaviness again but apply slightly more pressure, then release, continue until the jig breaks free.

 

You want the motion to be similar to & as fast as working a shaky head, you're just applying more pressure.

It’s not all wrong…it’s just your opinion of what to do.  In heavy vegetation, I want to force it through the grass.  My goal is to get it to the bottom 1/3 of the water column quickly where the vegetation is usually more open, jig it up and down a few times, and get it back up quickly for my next pitch.  If I have to finesse it back and forth to get it to break free, that’s less casts and less time in the likely strike zone.

[LrgmouthShad]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

Most anglers try forcing a jig through grass which is all wrong, you gotta finesse the jig through grass!

 

When you feel the jig starting to load up in the grass...stop. Release pressure, pull up until you feel heaviness again but apply slightly more pressure, then release, continue until the jig breaks free.

 

You want the motion to be similar to & as fast as working a shaky head, you're just applying more pressure.

I’ve done this with a jig and it works even through pretty thick grass 

[Jigfishn10]

The way CATT explained it is how I fish a jig in veg. When I was a fine young strapping I used to rip it through with some success and a lot of lost jigs. Now I have way more success and less jigs lost finessing them through.

[Sphynx]

Almost always choose a jig over a Texas Rig, which is something I am trying to change this year, if for no better reason than I find T-Rigs cheaper than jigs most of the time, and in a lot of ways the rig itself can be much more versatile than a given jig.

[Mbirdsley]

Intend to use jigs when fishing hard cover ie lay downs, rocks or wood  or punching threw thick vegetation.  I tend to t-rig when I’m fishing softer cover.  However, these are no absolute rules. 

[Catt]

11 hours ago, RDB said:

He asked about benefits and situations where others use a t-rig over a jig and I shared what I do

 

You answer based on your experience, I answered based on my experience.

 

11 hours ago, RDB said:

The ego’s on this site can be quite entertaining ?.

 

Sorry your ego got hurt!

[Ski]

Personally I use a Jig and trailer for a horizontal presentation around docks, ledges, Rocky banks light cover. When fishing in heavy cover, vegetation, tree tops, bushes I use a Texas rig for a vertical presentation.

[RDB]

On 7/8/2022 at 5:28 AM, Catt said:

If ya can't fish a jig through grass y'all don't know how to fish a jig!

 

21 hours ago, Catt said:

Most anglers try forcing a jig through grass which is all wrong, you gotta finesse the jig through grass!

I believe I only shared what I do.  You shared what everyone else does wrong and preceded to make the post about you and correct everyone’s supposed mistake (which on so many levels is inaccurate but I chose not to get into it).  You still have not answered the OP’s question.  

So when you say we each shared our experience, are you saying that your experience is that everyone else is wrong but you?   So, who’s ego showed through.

 

 

[Catt]

2 hours ago, RDB said:

You still have not answered the OP’s question.  

 

Yeah I did you just can't accept that "both" can be the answer.

 

Many anglers have no issues fishing jigs in grass, some do.

[Tennessee Boy]

The question is jig vs t-rigged craw not generic t-rig.  
 

I always have a jig with a craw type trailer tied on.  I always have a least one t-rig tied on but not usually with a craw bait.  I can’t have every lure in the boat tied on ready to cast so I usually fish other soft plastics on my t-rigged rods just for some diversity.  

[scaleface]

I use jigs and Texas rigs in the same places .  I throw a Texas rig more but its whatever I feel like throwing . If the water is extremely muudy I like the bulk of a jig .

[RDB]

2 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Yeah I did you just can't accept that "both" can be the answer.

 

Many anglers have no issues fishing jigs in grass, some do.

You’re a funny guy.  Your response to the OP’s question regarding potential benefits or situations where you would choose 1 over the other was try a Rage Lobster ?.  Every post after that has been you imparting your superior knowledge to correct someone else.  Your response to use them both was to reply to me (thanks for the tip ?).  Then you proceeded to expand that by saying others don’t know how to fish a jig in grass either, so you decided to share your knowledge with the unwashed.  You end by suggesting I don’t know how to fish a jig in grass when my point that started this whole thing was I prefer to fish a heavy weighted t-rig in heavy vegetation and even shared why that was my preference.  You seem to have a real issue with my preference for some reason.

 

I’m not going to go on about this any longer, so you can have the last word.  We are both in Texas and not terribly far apart.  I sure hope we will have an opportunity in the future to test the hype. 

[Catt]

3 hours ago, RDB said:

Your response to use them both was to reply to me (thanks for the tip ?).

 

I have from the time I first joined this site stated I keep a Texas Rig & a Jig-n-Craw on my deck 24/7/365!

 

You wanna think it was about you ?

[RDB]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

You wanna think it was about you ?

I lied about another response…couldn’t resist based on your silly response.
 

If it wasn’t about me, then don’t quote me when giving your catty little answer.  I don’t think you even read what you type.  Maybe go back and review the thread and your responses before quoting someone.  Frankly, I could give two s@#*’s whether you use both, it has no effect on me and I don’t care whether I influence you or not.  NEWSFLASH:  THE POST ISN’T ABOUT YOU.

 

To the OP’s question about when you might use t-rig over a jig, I’ll try to summarize @Catt’s answer for you.  He has 2:

 

1).  Use a Rage Lobster (good luck with that one)

2).  Use both…said another way, he doesn’t think there is a case when you would choose one over the other.

 

Did I get it right???

[Catt]

9 hours ago, RDB said:

NEWSFLASH:  THE POST ISN’T ABOUT YOU

 

And yet you keep trying to make about me!

 

9 hours ago, RDB said:

he doesn’t think there is a case when you would choose one over the other.

 

You got that right!

 

Why limit yourself to one?

 

Yes I never leave an area without throwing both.

 

9 hours ago, RDB said:

Use a Rage Lobster (good luck with that one)

 

Ya don't throw Texas Rigged craw worms? 

[RDB]

4 hours ago, Catt said:

 

And yet you keep trying to make about me!

 

 

You got that right!

 

Why limit yourself to one?

 

Yes I never leave an area without throwing both.

 

 

Ya don't throw Texas Rigged craw worms? 

1.  I’m not the one trying to make myself look superior by saying everyone else doesn’t know how to fish grass and then leaving long drawn out posts explaining how to do it.

 

2.  If you like to fish both, tell the OP.  Don’t quote it back to me when I call out your BS.

 

3.  The question wasn’t whether anyone liked to fish craw worms, it was about situations when you might choose a t-rig craws v jigs.  Are you a reading man?

 

Just own the fact that you saw an opportunity to make a catty comment for a little self promotion and move on.  It’s just like the last time you made a catty comment to me and justified it by saying how many 10+lb fish you have caught across 5 states.  Had nothing to do with our argument but it was an opportunity for you to self promote.  
 

I have no desire to upset your carefully crafted online image, I usually find it quite humorous.  But when you make it about me, I’m going to say something.  To quote a Texas saying, I believe you are all hat and no cattle.   ✌️✌️✌️

[the reel ess]

The latter will get more bites. But big ones will still bite it. The way I choose what to tie on my pitching stick is, if they aren't biting the jig, try a T-rigged craw. If they won't bite that, rig it with a worm of some kind. If they don't want that, they probably are not present in that cover. 

 

Lately I've been considering a toad on a plain Arky weedless jighead. Show 'em something they aren't used to seeing.

[Munkin]

Generally I just let the fish decide 

 Finesse jigs generally work better in the spring and fall with trig more during the summer. 

 

Allen 

[Boomstick]

You usually just have to try both and see what the fish want that day. T-Rigs typically get more bites, but when a bass takes a jig they typically swallow it right up. Also smaller bass often won't take the jig. It gets even ore confusing when you consider a finesse jig vs a T-Rig.

 

As a rule of thumb where to start, if there is wood around or I'm dragging along the bottom I will start with a jig and if there's grass then I opt for a T-Rig as they will pick up a lot less grass.

[papajoe222]

On 7/9/2022 at 7:56 AM, Ski said:

Personally I use a Jig and trailer for a horizontal presentation around docks, ledges, Rocky banks light cover. When fishing in heavy cover, vegetation, tree tops, bushes I use a Texas rig for a vertical presentation.

This

[flyfisher]

I use both but a jig is more often tied on and used for me.  I used to hate using jigs in vegetation but over time, I have learned how to finesse it through and that seems to do better for me than a T-rig.  I think the bulk of a jig helps it flutter through grass rather than slipping past it all if that makes sense.  On the river for smallies I am 75% of the time using a confidence baits draggin head with a craw over a jig.  The jig is either a football head as they seem to not get snagged in rocks as often or the confidence baits finesse jig.  

 

Like has already been said a bunch on here, try both and see what is working that particular day.

[Boomstick]

2 hours ago, flyfisher said:

I used to hate using jigs in vegetation but over time, I have learned how to finesse it through and that seems to do better for me than a T-rig.

Jigs definitely can produce well in vegetation. I tend to lean T-Rig often simply because if I anchor my kayak in the middle of some grass, I can cast it a little further where it's hard to finesse a jig through grass on real long casts. However if I know the spot is hot, I may opt to go with a jig too and move around as needed.

[flyfisher]

2 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

Jigs definitely can produce well in vegetation. I tend to lean T-Rig often simply because if I anchor my kayak in the middle of some grass, I can cast it a little further where it's hard to finesse a jig through grass on real long casts. However if I know the spot is hot, I may opt to go with a jig too and move around as needed.

That makes sense.  I try and keep that angle as steep as possible so I limit those long casts unless i am swimming a jig and dropping it into holes.  I guess that is the fun part of fishing....figuring it all out and seeing what works on any given day. 

[LrgmouthShad]

6 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

if I anchor my kayak in the middle of some grass, I can cast it a little further where it's hard to finesse a jig through grass on real long casts

I’m thinking maybe you could start with a t-rig, making long casts, and then as you fish longer, you could work the area around your kayak with short pitches with a jig as maybe the fish will have become more comfortable with your boat presence by then. What do you think?