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I guess it would depend on the individual. If you're asking across the board ratio, your guess is as good as anyones.

Personally, if I fail to land 20% of the fish I set a hook on, I'm doing something wrong. That's on strikes that I detect. I would imagine another 20% go undetected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm sitting at 90% of detected strikes brought to hand, 2/2 on the Texas Rig, 6/6 Lipless Crankbait, 1/1 Jerkbait, and 0/1 Chatterbait for the month of July...

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I probably catch 90% of my detected strikes, but I would be surprised if I catch 50% of the bass that put my lure in their mouth. There's a difference, and it's one of the reasons we post on here and professionals are touring the country.

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Exactly. I probably don't detect many of my strikes, according to the experts here, and I believe them.

 

I feel like I have a good ratio for detected bites but hard to say without keeping track. Most people who play the lottery don't keep track, yet most think they are ahead overall (nobody I know loses!) which would be mathematically impossible, so....?

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What lure y'all talking?

 

Texas Rigs & Jig-n-Craws 90%+

 

Johnson Spoon or a Frog maybe 60%-

 

Some days I wonder if I know what I'm doing!

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Oh ya, I also start to doubt that strikes were actually strikes at all.

 

At first it's like "Oh I got bit there, dang!"

 

But unless it was undoubtedly a fish, my doubt that it was a bite grows a little more with every minute that passes. "Probably a weed. Did it tug or was that just the weight?"

 

Am I the only one that doubts bites more as time passes? I'm weird.

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Depends...sometimes I suck sometimes I dont. Went 2 for 2 today yesterday went 6 for 8. Put me at %80 for the weekend with a variety of baits. 1 busted me off in a tree pile on spinning gear which happens...the other hooked up on a popper and came off after like 2 cranks of the reel...guessing he swiped it and barely had it on the outside of the face. Last months I went on a streak of losing fish...just goes that way sometimes.

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It depends on lure and technique.  Most people are listing their ratios with different lures.  

 

I have some advice to help in certain situations.  It literally took me months, and a bunch of lost bass to figure this out.  When using my trolling motor on auto pilot I was hitting anchor as soon as I set the hook.  I was landing the fish that were in front of the boat when hooked, but losing a BUNCH if they were beside of or behind the boat.  Hitting anchor when the boat has momentum will send the boat back some.  This was in many cases causing a split second of slack in my line, resulting in lost fish.  Saturday morning I was fishing alone, using a Devils Horse.  I had the trolling motor moving at .7 MPH.  I was casting straight out the side of the boat, so the momentum wouldn't have slack in my line while I was working the lure.  After losing 3 out of the first 4 I realized the boat changing direction when I hit anchor was helping me lose them.  After that I would just turn the trolling motor off when I got a strike.  I landed 5 more, including a 4 pounder without losing another.  I'd hit anchor after I get the fish in the boat.   

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I'm constantly checking my hooks. When I get on a run of fish throwing my lure it's frequently because I'm not paying attention to my hooks. A quick point touch up makes a difference. My right index fingernail is always white from doing so.

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Depends, some lures under some conditions over 95%, others closer to 50-60%. One of the reasons I don't throw frogs in open(ish) water often.

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7 hours ago, schplurg said:

Am I the only one that doubts bites more as time passes?

 

When in doubt, drop the rod, reel the slack, & set the hook!

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7 hours ago, Randy2828 said:

Bass fishing what would be a good strike verses catch ratio?

The goal is 100%.

Admittedly I'm closer to that on some days more than others.

However the farther get from that, meaning the more fish I lose,

I'm looking hard at what I'm doing and why.

Asking my self am I doing something wrong ?

Putting some serious time & effort into matched/balancing my gear and

learning how to effectively set the hook, play & land fish has paid off.

There was a learning curve and I still lose a few here and there but it's rarely a regular deal.

If and when it is, just may be that the fish just didn't get the bait 

or I was asleep at the wheel. 

Either way, rarely do I change a whole lot at this point.

:smiley:

A-Jay

 

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Really depends on the bait. Imo

Moving baits seem to have a higher hookup ratio vs slower presentations because the bite is more obvious and the baits forward progress is suddenly stopped.....WHAM.

 

Slower presentations require the fisherman to engage his or her senses moreso, bite detection.

 

Another words, I'm much closer to 100% with Spinnerbaits and swim Jigs vs T-rigged soft plastics. 

Just my theory on the matter.

 

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I wouldnt even know how to guess . Frogs are pretty low but it depends on the day . I'm beginning to think my success rate depends on the fish and not .my performance .

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I have just about come to the conclusion that setting the hook on a fish is like hitting a baseball. Baseball players go through hitting slumps, and if they stick with it, they usually get back in the groove.

I have had some trips where I’m at or close to 100% with soft plastics. But the next time I might drop to 60%, not doing anything differently.(apparently)

I have the highest hook up rate with what I do best.( Soft plastics). With spinnerbaits I initially hook them but sometimes lose them on the way in. Spinnerbaits tend to make a bigger hole in the mouth which allows the fish to shake off more easily.

Frogs- Well, we all have trouble with hookups with them. If I get 50% I feel like that’s a victory!

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Considering all types I’d say once they’re on the hook I’ll land about 90%. 
The other 10% I’ll blame not monitoring my hook sharpness enough or just playing them wrong which is more prevalent on moving baits. 
 

The largest differential is between frog’s and t rigged plastics. 
Since I changed what I throw I’ll get 70% of frog hits and over 90% of plastics. 
 

 

 

 

Mike

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As noted, it depends on a ton of factors.  The type of bass will make a difference.  I'm a lot more likely to boat a largemouth than a spotted bass on a strike, especially with something like a worm.  I'm a lot more likely to boat a bass off a crankbait than I am off a frog.  I'm a lot more likely to boat any bass in the fall than I am during the spawn.  And there are some days where I'll get a ton of strikes, but can't seem to boat anything.  And other days where I land every strike I get, even though both days I'll fish the exact same way.  And then there are days where I'm just off, and miss strikes because I'm not focused, or maybe hyper focused and trying to set the hooks too early.  

 

My point being, you really shouldn't try to compare yourself to others.  Just compare yourself to your past performances.  Try to get better today than you were yesterday.  Learn from your mistakes and successes.  Understand that progress isn't linear.  It ebbs, flows, fits and spurts.  Allow yourself the time to grow.  We all fish under different conditions, and while there are a ton of similarities, there are also a ton of differences.  

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2 hours ago, Bird said:

Really depends on the bait.

X2, very dependent on lure, gear, line, and the individual.

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Strike detection is what separates the the good bass anglers from the average. 

Lures you can see the strike like top lures and 50% is about a good strike to hook up ratio.

Lure you can’t see the strike the hook up ratio is far less, maybe 25% if you are good.

Tom

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2 hours ago, Mike L said:

Considering all types I’d say once they’re on the hook I’ll land about 90%.

From a hook to land ratio, I’m probably in this range as well.  Maybe slightly lower depending on how often I use lures that are easier for bass to throw.  Add in things like oversized flutter spoons and larger swimbaits and my hook to land ratio drops pretty quickly.  I’m a member of the “hook sets are free” club.  If something doesn’t feel right, I’m probably going to swing, so I’m not concerned about having a high strike to catch ratio.

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15 hours ago, Randy2828 said:

Bass fishing what would be a good strike verses catch ratio?

I would say you are doing well if you are catching 90% or more of the fish that hit your lure.

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Not so worried about my strike to hookup ratio, I'd really like my hookup to landing ratio to be higher. I'm sure I get lots of strikes I never realize are strikes, but I wish more of the ones I hooked up with made it all the way in. 

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It's been one of the great mysteries of fishing.  How many bites am I getting that I never feel?   There have been some underwater videos published that show it happening to some very experienced anglers.   With forward facing sonar we can start to answer the question for ourselves.  I've only had FFS since April and I'll need a lot more time before I start to get some idea of how many fish I'm missing.   I probably watch my lure on 5% of my cast.  I see a lot of fish following my lure that never hit it.  Some get close enough that they could mouth the bait without me knowing it.  Right now I don't think I'm missing that many strikes.  Certainly not half of them.  I'm still adjusting to the new game with FFS and still have a lot to learn.

 

Have any of you ever set the hook based what you see on FFS without feeling the strike?  I've never seen anyone doing it in videos and I've never tried it.

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never thought about it.  not enough to take my number of boated fish, and divide by the number of strikes.  i dont think i can even guess.  i do recall cussing :)  but not the frequency. 

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