Firstoutfisher Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 My current frog setup is a Daiwa Aird X heavy/fast and the rod is an absolute broomstick. Right now I am using booyah pad crashers which weigh 1/2oz. Trying to cast them is incredibly frustrating as it is hard to cast accurately because they don't sufficiently load the rod. I toyed with the idea of getting a new frog rod but can't justify that when I have never even caught a fish on a frog. Haha. Instead I would like to get some heavier weight frogs that cast better on my setup. Most of the highly regarded/recommended frogs online are either 1/2 oz or 5/8oz. I saw a couple that are more than 5/8 like the megabass big gabot and jackal gavacho but both of those are pretty expensive and have poor reviews on tacklewarehouse. Anyone have experience with any of the bigger/heavier frogs and can recommend a couple I could try? 2 Quote
Big Rick Posted July 2, 2022 Posted July 2, 2022 Don't let reviews hinder you from getting the Jackall Gavacho. This is by far my favorite popping/walking frog. The hookup ratios are amazing. And they are tough as nails. Since they weigh 2/3rd oz you can nearly spool your reel on a bomb cast. I catch hundreds of frog fish every year and this is my favorite frog. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted July 2, 2022 Super User Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Firstoutfisher said: My current frog setup is a Daiwa Aird X heavy/fast and the rod is an absolute broomstick. Right now I am using booyah pad crashers which weigh 1/2oz. Trying to cast them is incredibly frustrating as it is hard to cast accurately because they don't sufficiently load the rod. I toyed with the idea of getting a new frog rod but can't justify that when I have never even caught a fish on a frog. Haha. Instead I would like to get some heavier weight frogs that cast better on my setup. Most of the highly regarded/recommended frogs online are either 1/2 oz or 5/8oz. I saw a couple that are more than 5/8 like the megabass big gabot and jackal gavacho but both of those are pretty expensive and have poor reviews on tacklewarehouse. Anyone have experience with any of the bigger/heavier frogs and can recommend a couple I could try? Yeah, you want some tip and backbone with a good frog rod for sure, in the mean time, you can weigh your existing frogs, specially if you are sledding them over slop, which is almost a necessity. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 2, 2022 Super User Posted July 2, 2022 Spro brought out a new size 70 in their popping frog which weighs 3/4oz. Quote
scbassin Posted July 3, 2022 Posted July 3, 2022 If your having a lot of trouble with the lower weight frogs I would look for a new Rod. You are missing out on many good frogs. With the 4th of July sales going on now I would look into a rod. This is a excellent one https://dobynsrods.com/product/dc-736c-fh/ Now for a heavy frog, The River2SEA Matt Daddy is 3/4 oz & the Spro King Daddy is 1 oz. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 3, 2022 Global Moderator Posted July 3, 2022 The FishLab Rattle Toad is a great frog and comes in 3 sizes, the biggest is over an ounce. They have a popping version now also. 1 Quote
Triptych Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, tim_kovar said: Scum Frog Launch Frog This! You can find them almost anywhere locally and they are IMHO the softest frog on the market (the black colors are probably the softest period). You will catch your first frog fish on it. 1 Quote
Jaderose Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 Scum Frog. Either the Trophy Series or the Launch. 5/8 1 Quote
Dumbbassanglr Posted July 4, 2022 Posted July 4, 2022 R2sea matt daddy for sure. It’s just a good all around frog period. Quote
Super User GreenPig Posted July 4, 2022 Super User Posted July 4, 2022 If I had to pick a single frog out of my 60+ frogs it'd be without a second thought be a Jackall Gavacho. 1 Quote
Firstoutfisher Posted July 5, 2022 Author Posted July 5, 2022 Thanks for the suggestions everyone, I am going to pick up a gavacho and a scum frog launch frog since those had the most suggestions and are affordable Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted July 5, 2022 Super User Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Firstoutfisher said: I am going to pick up a gavacho and a scum frog launch frog No offense to anyone who suggested the Launch Frog, but it's one of my worst casting frogs. It's light and catches wind. However, it's ridiculously soft, so hookups are excellent. Get it for that, but for bombing on a stiffer rod? I don't think so. X2 on the FishLab Rattle Toad. Even the middle size at 21 grams can be blasted way out there on a heavier stick. Just another option to consider. 1 Quote
IneedAnewScreenName-98161861 Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 Not sure it's going to meet your weight requirements but I'd strongly recommend the new Bobby's perfect. It's actually perfect. I have the gavacho, the scum, etc... I have been so impressed with the Bobby's perfect I havent been able to take it off. And I don't do anything to it out of the package. It's not as soft as the scum frog but it's still ultra soft compared to anything else. It walks insanely good, and I can bomb it a mile! I've caught 20+ fish on it now and it's still almost like I just took it out of the package! If you want heavy heavy without going oversized and ARE NOT fishing over matts and slop then that Bully Wa 2 size 65 also great! Plastic is not as soft but you can toss it forever away and it also walks like a dream! My sneaky other fav is the Terminator. It comes in a slightly smaller size but still a 1/2 oz or heavier I can't remember. In the bluegill colour it's lights out good. Quote
TcRoc Posted July 8, 2022 Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/3/2022 at 3:51 PM, tim_kovar said: Scum Frog Launch Frog While I liked this post.. I just got 2 launch’s in the mail.. hoping it casts better than the lighter scum frogs cause they don’t cast well for me.. all other I have I can bomb.. not the lighter scum frogs so curious to get out with these .. Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 I use heavy action rods when frog fishing and do well with LiveTarget and Booyah hollow belly frogs. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 I use a 7'3" XH-XF Cabela's Tournament XT frog-specific model rod and I don't have any trouble launching the Pad Crasher. It's the standard size frog. In fact, it's my favorite frog. It is a little more difficult to sidearm under things because the tip is so stiff. In the cooler months I use it as a second jig rod, mostly for deep fishing. Maybe try adjusting your reel's cast control a bit looser. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 10, 2022 Super User Posted July 10, 2022 Try the Rage Toad. https://www.strikeking.com/en/specialty-brands/rage-tail/rgtd Quote
Firstoutfisher Posted July 11, 2022 Author Posted July 11, 2022 6 hours ago, roadwarrior said: Try the Rage Toad. https://www.strikeking.com/en/specialty-brands/rage-tail/rgtd I hadn't considered a soft plastic frog. Any idea what the weight on it is? What is your preferred rigging? Seems appealing since achieving a good action will be easier from a seated position in the kayak as opposed to a regular frog. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted July 12, 2022 Super User Posted July 12, 2022 I have the Daiwa Tatula 7'4" H/F frog rod, which is probably similar in power and action. My frog of choice is the LiveTarget 2 1/4" which says it weighs 5/8oz. Never have a problem with casting distance, and the larger one throws even further. Quote
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