Which Lews reel?

[AmmoGuy]

21 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Slightly used. Another forum classifieds 

 

Gotcha. Hope it serves you well! 
just FYI, that is a 1st Gen. The second gens came out in 2018 I believe. 

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, Cbump said:

Good news. I just found and bought a tournament pro for $105!

That was fast. Cool. Previous generation. Stay on top of the gear lube.

2 minutes ago, AmmoGuy said:

The second gens came out in 2018 I believe. 

Yes, late. Somehow it's called the 2020 TP LFS.

[Cbump]

Dang I wish I knew that before I bought It. Figured It was new gen based on this comment by the seller: 

 

Lews Tournament Pro. TPG1XH. 8.3 gear ratio. Used one trip. 
 

Pretty old model to be used one trip ?

 

I asked him what the difference in his and the one on discountfishing was since the model number is different. He said this:

 

It’s actually a different model. This is the one I have. https://www.google.com/search?q=lfs+...XGUT-cdq9Ft9rM

Mine is a Tournament Pro G not a Tournament Pro that was in your link. Not sure of the difference between the G model and non G.

[AmmoGuy]

34 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Dang I wish I knew that before I bought It. Figured It was new gen based on this comment by the seller: 

 

Lews Tournament Pro. TPG1XH. 8.3 gear ratio. Used one trip. 
 

Pretty old model to be used one trip ?

 

I asked him what the difference in his and the one on discountfishing was since the model number is different. He said this:

 

It’s actually a different model. This is the one I have. https://www.google.com/search?q=lfs+...XGUT-cdq9Ft9rM

Mine is a Tournament Pro G not a Tournament Pro that was in your link. Not sure of the difference between the G model and non G.

Well, to be fair, he may have actually only used it one time? But I haven’t seen a first gen for retail sale in at least a couple of years I don’t think. 
 

Sounds like a case of neither seller nor buyer were very schooled up on the product. (I don’t mean any offense by that)

[Cbump]

Was It worth $105?

[AmmoGuy]

12 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Was It worth $105?

No one can really answer that but you.

 

If it works well for your purposes, and you enjoy it, that’s what matters. 

[Cbump]

I would have gladly paid $159 for the new one so now I’m not so happy. Lol

[PhishLI]

5 hours ago, Cbump said:

Was It worth $105?

If you enjoy fishing with it, then sure. It's safe to assume this reel has been sitting for a while. Maybe in a heated area. Grease and oil can migrate away from contact areas over time, or simply get gummy. It's definitely worth your while to give the gears, clutch mech, and bearings some lube. Do that and it'll work fine and keep working fine.

[Phil77]

I would've suggested the TP or SD. Can't go wrong with either just depends if you like the centrifugal or magnetic system. I'm not a fan of the dual brake reels but what works for me may not work for you. Give that reel a good cleaning and turn some heads with it.

[dodgeguy]

That reel doesn't have the p2 pinion bearing

[NavyToad]

I wouldn't be too concerned about it being an older model. Often times when a new model comes out it's little more than a minor refresh of the previous model. For example, I have the previous generation BB1 Pro and they just put out the new latest and greatest BB1 Pro. So what? Is the performance of the new model really any better than the old model in any measurable/practical way? I doubt it. One thing it will do is attract new buyers!!

 

Use it like you stole it. 

 

 

[Cbump]

4 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

That reel doesn't have the p2 pinion bearing

I don’t know what that means. 

5 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

That reel doesn't have the p2 pinion bearing

Like is that a feature It doesn’t come with or is It missing It? 

[bulldog1935]

@Cbump Neither of my SD have P2 pinion. 

Essentially, it keeps the pinion aligned with the spool removed. 

The older reels have a 3rd (pinion) bearing in the knob cap for pinion cranking alignment with the reel fully assembled. 

If you don't futz with the crank with the spool removed, no worries. 

 

This is the P2 pinion in the Team Pro SP - it's a bushing, somewhere discussed on an earlier takedown thread on the forum. 

[Cbump]

Ok I see. I’ve never removed a spool from any reel I’ve owned so probably no problems there. 
 

I asked the guy this morning how long he’s had the reel. He replied:

 

”Probably a year give or take. I really can’t remember. I go through so much stuff. I only used it twice I think. It’ll sling a 3/8 oz Carolina rig. I just sold a bunch of rods and don’t have the rod I had it on anymore”

 

Then I asked if he bought It new because I learned It was an older generation. He replied:

 

”I picked it up from one of my buddies who never used it”

 

So we will see. 

[NavyToad]

My last comment got me thinking. I have several 20+ year old reels that function as well as any/most of the latest and greatest from any manufacturer. A Daiwa TDX103 I paid close to $200 for, A Curado Bantam for $129, and a blue BPS Rick Clunn model for $100 are all a pleasure to use even 20 years later. I don't know if they have a P2 pinion bearing and I don't care. The drag on todays reels might be a little smoother and the gearing might be a little faster, but IMO there's not all that much that seperates the "old" reels from the newer ones. We've had operationally trouble free reels for a long time now. 

I must admit that my old Daiwa is due for an overhaul, and sending her in for a complete makeover should have her running better than new.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over your purchase, especially considering that you haven't even used it yet.

 

[bulldog1935]

What's mostly gained in newer reels is lighter, lower-inertia spools and better bearings, which increase cast distance by needing less brake for the same result. 

Keep in mind, longer casting should also be viewed as lower-effort casting, since that means greater control. 

Also, newer brake systems designed for wider lure ranges, making them friendlier to those beginning with B/C who may not have the best casting habits. 

 

Many of the new improvements are aimed at manufacturing, keeping cost down while maintaining quality.   There are several reasons quality aluminum gears cost less than brass - and they can be done right. 

 

The P2 pinion solves a problem with those who turn the crank with the spool removed, preventing a possible galling spur on the pinion gear. 

[Boogey Man]

15 hours ago, AmmoGuy said:

Gotcha. Hope it serves you well! 
just FYI, that is a 1st Gen. The second gens came out in 2018 I believe. 

1st Gen actually came out around 2010 or 2011. 

[Cbump]

So not a first gen?