odd kayak thread: Can you get up off the floor without using your hands?

[Darth-Baiter]

I fish out of a Hobie Kayak.  mine is the Outback which I consider their "multi-task" model.  Good for the open ocean, good for the lakes and ponds.  I think to maximize stability, they put the seat very low.   (I can pull a cord and drop the seat almost to the floor if I get caught in big waves) I've been in a friend's high sitting model and in big waves I get nervous.  I feel like the ball on the top of a metronome.  with the high sitting position, you just stand up.  In my kayak, getting to my feet was a chore, but like all things you just figure out the body-mechanics to get it done.  so I have been practicing in my living room.  sitting flat on my butt, and trying to get up.  hahah.  I can do it easily, but none of the methods would translate over to a move to do it in my kayak.  I need to be able to pull my heels in real close and rock forward enough to counter the weight of my backside and stand up.  helps to cross my ankles.   right now, I have to reach down grab a H-Rail, or push up off the seat back.  I have used the tug of a bass to assist me mid fight.  I should have practiced moves when I was younger, and stayed more flexible, and not gotten so fat.  but here I am.  

 

its funny trying to get up off a floor without the use of hands.  

[VolFan]

A lot of people use a pull rope or stand up bar or a combination for getting up and standing. I can stand pretty easily out of the seat on my Nuke, but bony if using the bench seat. I don’t think I’ve been able to pull that off with no hands since my early 20s

[Deleted account]

2 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

I fish out of a Hobie Kayak.  mine is the Outback which I consider their "multi-task" model.  Good for the open ocean, good for the lakes and ponds.  I think to maximize stability, they put the seat very low.   (I can pull a cord and drop the seat almost to the floor if I get caught in big waves) I've been in a friend's high sitting model and in big waves I get nervous.  I feel like the ball on the top of a metronome.  with the high sitting position, you just stand up.  In my kayak, getting to my feet was a chore, but like all things you just figure out the body-mechanics to get it done.  so I have been practicing in my living room.  sitting flat on my butt, and trying to get up.  hahah.  I can do it easily, but none of the methods would translate over to a move to do it in my kayak.  I need to be able to pull my heels in real close and rock forward enough to counter the weight of my backside and stand up.  helps to cross my ankles.   right now, I have to reach down grab a H-Rail, or push up off the seat back.  I have used the tug of a bass to assist me mid fight.  I should have practiced moves when I was younger, and stayed more flexible, and not gotten so fat.  but here I am.  

 

its funny trying to get up off a floor without the use of hands.  

Were I ever to fish from a pointy wading pool, and then subsequently wanted to stand up un it, I would set up a stout lanyard (maybe 1/2" three strand) mid ship in front of me that I could pull on while standing.

[casts_by_fly]

I have no problems standing up in mine (autopilot 120) and I’ll stand up on the seat too for a higher viewpoint sometimes. Getting up and down out of the seat is pretty easy though I appreciate some people don’t have the same ankle mobility I do. A pull rope tied to the nose handle or similar is a good idea if you have a little grip strength. 

[Jmilburn76]

I can stand up pretty easy in my Native but I have also added seat risers.

[FryDog62]

21 minutes ago, casts_by_fly said:

I have no problems standing up in mine (autopilot 120) and I’ll stand up on the seat too for a higher viewpoint sometimes. Getting up and down out of the seat is pretty easy though I appreciate some people don’t have the same ankle mobility I do. A pull rope tied to the nose handle or similar is a good idea if you have a little grip strength. 

I have the 3 inch rear seat risers in my AP120 and can get up and down without grabbing the sides but I usually do anyway. Regular stretching/exercising helps when you get to a certain age lol. Would def knock the risers out if in waves and stability is key though. 

[Bankc]

It's easy for me to stand up without using my hands. Sitting down is a bit more difficult.  But I'm pretty skinny and only mid 40's.  
 

Get yourself a standup assist strap or rope.  It's the easiest, cheapest, least obtrusive option, and it's highly effective.  

[RDB]

On 6/25/2022 at 10:55 AM, Darth-Baiter said:

I fish out of a Hobie Kayak.  mine is the Outback which I consider their "multi-task" model.

I have the same kayak and agree it is more multi-task.  I always use the seat in the up position and don’t have a problem leaning forward and standing without support.  I can see where the down position might be a problem since back is lower than the front.

 

I don’t want to hijack your thread but since this is a Hobie seat post, I have a quick question.  I have had my kayak for a number of years and only occasionally fish out of it.  However, what I have noticed is that the seat has become super creaky (it’s loud), both while peddling and even with small repositions.  Have others experienced this and if so, have you found a solution?  Considering how noisy it is above the water, I can only imagine what it sounds like below.

[flyfisher]

Kind of like cartopping is as much about technique as it is about strength, the same goes for standing up.  A lower seat position does make it more difficult but I don't have any issue standing in any kayak i have owned, even some like my redfish 12.  Balance and core strength come in to play for sure.  Now my ATAK 140 is about as stable as can be and i have zero issues standing and moving around and doing whatever i need to do.

[Choporoz]

I bought a Rogue Stand Up Strap for this reason.  

[Darth-Baiter]

32 minutes ago, RDB said:

I have the same kayak and agree it is more multi-task.  I always use the seat in the up position and don’t have a problem leaning forward and standing without support.  I can see where the down position might be a problem since back is lower than the front.

 

I don’t want to hijack your thread but since this is a Hobie seat post, I have a quick question.  I have had my kayak for a number of years and only occasionally fish out of it.  However, what I have noticed is that the seat has become super creaky (it’s loud), both while peddling and even with small repositions.  Have others experienced this and if so, have you found a solution?  Considering how noisy it is above the water, I can only imagine what it sounds like below.

Yikes!  No mine is silent.  I think my 2022 seat is different than yours. 

Back on topic. I’m can get up fairly easily just by grabbing an H-rail which is lower than my seat. I think with me it’s mental. Touching the rail forces me to shift weight forward. 
 

if been getting up off the floor handless all weekend. I might be building strength.  Yesterday I was doing the “baby pose” yoga move and I hear my wife say,”oh how cute”. I thought she was talking about me. I look up and my dog is doing “downward dog “ next to me.

[the reel ess]

No. My FeelFree Lure had a strap for this. It also had a leaning post type contraption that I never used. If you weren't standing, it was completely in the way.

[RDB]

1 hour ago, Darth-Baiter said:

No mine is silent.  I think my 2022 seat is different than yours. 

Thanks for the feedback.  I finally checked it out and it is the mesh seating rubbing against the plastic support arms.  The mesh is supposed to be permanently attached to the support but mine has broken free in multiple spots, so when you move, the stretch makes it creak (I have had the kayak for a number of years).  I am going to use some Teflon spray to see if it helps.  Back to the post…sorry for the side track ?.

[Bluebasser86]

I have the flexibility of a short piece of rebar. I have to grab onto something to help myself stand. 

[Darth-Baiter]

11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I have the flexibility of a short piece of rebar. I have to grab onto something to help myself stand. 

i love your statement.  ahhahah..