Need help simplifying to all Dobyns

[casts_by_fly]

On 6/16/2022 at 12:54 AM, Cbump said:

 

Drop shot

Ned rig

Weightless Fluke

Weightless senko

Spinnerbait

Chatterbait (probably more than anything)

Swim jig

T-rig (3/16 - 1 oz) (creature and big worms)

Dirty jig finesse jigs

Small swimbaits (underspins, jig heads, 3-4” Keitech types) 

 

That’s really about It for the most part. As you’ll see I have rods for all kinds of other things. 
 

This is what I currently own. I keep a list. 
 

MOVING:

 

Jerkbait/light topwater: Tatula Elite Seth Feider 6’9” ML, Tatula Limited SV 7.1, 12lb fc (KEEPING THIS)

 

Spinnerbaits/chatterbaits/pitching finesse jigs: Falcon Lowrider “Head Turner”, Tatula CT 6.3, 16lb daiwa j-fluoro

 

Chatterbaits/lipless/spinnerbait: St Croix Mojo Bass MH Mod Fast, Bass Pro Pro Qualifier 6.8, 50lb braid

 

Top Water/Popping: Falcon Bucoo “Herm” 6’6” MH moderate fast, BPS Pro Qualifier 2 6.8, 30lb braid/15 mono leader

 

CRANKING:

 

Shallow Cranking/lipless: Daiwa Tatula CT 6.3, Daiwa Tatula 7’ glass cranking M, 15lb seaguar fc (KEEPING)

 

Deep cranking: daiwa kage 7’6” deep crank, Lews Speed Spool LFS 5.6 gear, 12lb seaguar fc (CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES I’VE DEEP CRANKED)

 

SWIM/A-RIG/SPOON:

 

Alabama rig/big swim baits: Dobyns Fury 795SB, daiwa tatula 150p 5.5, 20lb basix fc

 

Big flutter spoon: shared Dobyns Fury 795SB, Lews LFS 8 gear, 50lb braid, 20lb fc (HAVE NEVER THROWN A BIG FLUTTER SPOON AND PROBABLY WON’T)

 

WORMS/JIGS:

 

Pitching (fluoro): Dobyns Sierra 7’6” H fast, Daiwa Tatula Elite P/F 8.1, 20lb invisx

 

Pitching/Punching/frogs: falcon bucoo 7’3” heavy fast “amistad”, daiwa tatula 200hs 7.3 50lb braid (change to 65lb braid)

 

Carolina Rig: Daiwa Tatula CT 8 gear, Dobyns Champion c-rig special, 20lb fc

 

Weightless worm/fluke/senko: Falcon Lowrider “Weightless worm”, Team Lews Hyper Mag 8 gear, 15lb fc

(VERY LIGHT ROD, FEELS ALMOST TOO LIGHT)

 

All Purpose: 

(GOT TWO OF THE SAME)

All Purpose: Falcon Lowrider “All ‘Round Fast” 7’ MHF, Abu Revo Ike 8 gear 15lb invisx fc 

 

All Purpose: Falcon Lowrider “All ‘Round Fast” 7’ MHF, Tatula CT 8.1, 15lb fc

 

SPINNING:

 

Skipping flukes/power finesse: Daiwa Arid-X 6’6” medium spinning, Penn Battle II, 20lb power pro braid to 15lb invisx fc leader 

 

Wacky rig/Ned: daiwa arid-x 6’6” medium spinning, Daiwa laguna, 10lb power pro braid to 10lb fc leader

 

Drop Shot: h2o express tac40 ML 7’, lews speed spool, 10lb power pro braid to 10lb seaguar fc leader
 

-Chris

 

1 hour ago, Cbump said:

 

That’s a good point and I love my Falcons, I just get a real good deal on Dobyns. What targeted additions would you recommend to finish It out? 

ignoring the spinning since I can’t help much there, I’d use your existing:

 

head turner for spinnerbaits

all around for swim jigs

All around for light Texas rigs up to 3/8

Amistad for heavy Texas rigs over 3/8.  Also pitch jigs and beavers. 

Herm for weightless flukes or weightless senkos 

I might keep the weightless worm for light swim baits/underspins 

 

I would add an expert finesse jig/topwater (5-1610) for finesse jigs

Depending on lure weight I’d add either another finesse jig or head turner for chatterbaits (3/8 with the finesse jig, 1/2 with the head turner)

 

both of those rods also do double duty for swim jigs, and the finesse jig is also great for topwaters and weightless plastics very versatile rod

 

So adding two rods to what you have will cover all but the Ned and drop shot rigs from your priority list. You also have the all around for crankbaits and lipless up to a dt10 or maybe 14. I’d throw square bills on the finesse jig rod.  I could definitely fish that set of rods and be happy for the day. Depending how much you fish a given thing or want multiples, I might add on another amistad if you throw a lot of big stuff or if you’re throwing frogs and punching at the same time. 
 

you also have enough reels to outfit all of them pretty well, probably without changing the line you have. Just pick your favorite for each rod/technique. 

[MyKeyBe]

9 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

I know you said dobyns but you have a lot of falcon rods in the mix. Have you considered consolidating on falcon?

This is the correct answer.

Falcon is always the correct answer.

[Cbump]

12 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

 

ignoring the spinning since I can’t help much there, I’d use your existing:

 

head turner for spinnerbaits

all around for swim jigs

All around for light Texas rigs up to 3/8

Amistad for heavy Texas rigs over 3/8.  Also pitch jigs and beavers. 

Herm for weightless flukes or weightless senkos 

I might keep the weightless worm for light swim baits/underspins 

 

I would add an expert finesse jig/topwater (5-1610) for finesse jigs

Depending on lure weight I’d add either another finesse jig or head turner for chatterbaits (3/8 with the finesse jig, 1/2 with the head turner)

 

both of those rods also do double duty for swim jigs, and the finesse jig is also great for topwaters and weightless plastics very versatile rod

 

So adding two rods to what you have will cover all but the Ned and drop shot rigs from your priority list. You also have the all around for crankbaits and lipless up to a dt10 or maybe 14. I’d throw square bills on the finesse jig rod.  I could definitely fish that set of rods and be happy for the day. Depending how much you fish a given thing or want multiples, I might add on another amistad if you throw a lot of big stuff or if you’re throwing frogs and punching at the same time. 
 

you also have enough reels to outfit all of them pretty well, probably without changing the line you have. Just pick your favorite for each rod/technique. 

Great answer. Thank you. 
 

My finesse jigs are 3/8 oz Dirty Jig Luke clausen, and I put a creature trailer. 
 

chatterbaits are always 3/8 oz jackhammers with magic Shad or zako trailer. 

[casts_by_fly]

2 hours ago, Cbump said:

Great answer. Thank you. 
 

My finesse jigs are 3/8 oz Dirty Jig Luke clausen, and I put a creature trailer. 
 

chatterbaits are always 3/8 oz jackhammers with magic Shad or zako trailer. 

in that case, I’d personally end up with one of each (5 power and 6 power 6’10” rods). A 3/8 with trailer is sweet spot in that it fishes well on a lot of rods. I throw 3/8 oz chatter or spinnerbait on the finesse jig, I throw a 3/8 jig and trailer on the head turner/pitchin stick, and I throw 3/8 Texas rigged plastic on the expert amistad (7-power).  Since you have the head turner I’d throw all of your possible lures on it next time out and see if you like how they fish. If it’s just a touch stiff then you want the finesse jig. If you want a little more power toss it on the amistad. I find the finesse jig to be an incredibly versatile rod. I can throw an unweighted fluke on it or go all the way up to a 1/2 oz chatterbait depending on the trailer (a zako is on the edge of too much, a rage menace is fine).  It does topwater or does bottom contact. Maybe a little light for heavy wire pitching but otherwise it’s a great rod. 
 

8 hours ago, MyKeyBe said:

This is the correct answer.

Falcon is always the correct answer.

 

I'm an unabashed falcon fan and I know them pretty well now so have no problems recommending them. At their price points I think they are incredible rods and if you need a bunch of rods to outfit a boat they have a full range and won’t break the bank. I’m sure there are other rods and lines of rods that are just as good or better. I’m sure there are some technique specific rods that are just amazing at what they do in other brands. My dad loves his crucials and does well with them. I know and love falcon. 
 

 

[Boomstick]

On 6/16/2022 at 12:54 AM, Cbump said:

Drop shot

Ned rig

Weightless Fluke

Weightless senko

Spinnerbait

Chatterbait (probably more than anything)

Swim jig

T-rig (3/16 - 1 oz) (creature and big worms)

Dirty jig finesse jigs

Small swimbaits (underspins, jig heads, 3-4” Keitech types) 

 

You already have some decent rods. You might be closer to consolidating with Daiwa or Falcon (if you go with Daiwa, I definitely also can provide input there). 

 

Drop Shot / Ned rig / Weightless soft plastics: 702SF in the highest Dobyns line you can afford. A  682SF or 692SF if available in the line is good as well. If you are looking to add a second rod, you can use a 701SF for ned rigs.

 

Weightless fluke / weightless senko: Dobyns 703C. I like this rod in the Sierra line because they sometimes have less tip, still enough for weightless senkos or lighter T-rigs but also great for crankbaits, jerkbaits and topwater. Very versatile rod. Also good for smaller, lighter finesse jigs although Dirty jigs tend to run around the same weight as regular jigs.

 

Spinnerbait, chatterbait / T-Rigs / larger finesse jigs / smaller swimbaits: 704C or 734C in whatever line you can afford.

 

For swimbaits around 1oz, you will want a 705C or 735C.

[Cbump]

After reading all the replies and help on this thread I’ve decided to keep the mix I have. I got some good suggestions on things I can do with my current lineup, especially the Falcons. Kind of reinforced what I already had in mind for them. 
Still have the problem of adding one more rod to the arsenal for my extra Tatula SV. That falcon finesse jig looks good. Also thinking about a Dobyns Champion 734 just because. Not sure I really need anything. Maybe I just sell one of my cheaper reels I currently have and put the SV on that rod. 
 

One thing I do want to do is replace my Dobyns 765Flip with a pitchin stick in the 7’ to 7’3” range. 7’6” is too long for me. 

[Cbump]

I know this topic has died but wanted to update. I took my weightless worm rod back. 

I now have the Team Lews Hyper Mag and the Daiwa Tatula SV limited reels without a rod. 
 

 

Does max drag matter to y’all when It comes to certain applications?

[casts_by_fly]

18 minutes ago, Cbump said:

I know this topic has died but wanted to update. I took my weightless worm rod back. 

I now have the Team Lews Hyper Mag and the Daiwa Tatula SV limited reels without a rod. 
 

 

Does max drag matter to y’all when It comes to certain applications?

not really. Even a reel that tops out at 10 lb is going to be able to lock down and not pull line for most bass fishing. 

[Cbump]

That’s kind of what I was thinking. The Lews has 20lb drag and the Daiwa 11lb. So just checking. 

[kingmotorboat]

Champion 735 or dx745 for t rigs 3/16 to an oz even light punching. I own all dobyns from sierras all the way to dx

[Cbump]

46 minutes ago, kingmotorboat said:

Champion 735 or dx745 for t rigs 3/16 to an oz even light punching. I own all dobyns from sierras all the way to dx

 
 

I want a lighter, shorter pitching rod than my Sierra 766FLIP (I labeled It wrong in this thread, it’s the 6 power). 
Was originally thinking Champion 705 or 735/6 but leaning towards the DX 745/6 now. Is the DX a lot lighter than the Sierra model I have? 
I’m 5’6” so wanted something shorter than 7’6”. The DX 745 is only 2” shorter. If it’s not much lighter then I’ll go regular Champion. 
 

 

Also what do y’all think about a Fury or Sierra 734c strictly for buzzbaits and super spooks? If that’s a good use, what line for that?

[kingmotorboat]

12 minutes ago, Cbump said:

 
 

I want a lighter, shorter pitching rod than my Sierra 766FLIP (I labeled It wrong in this thread, it’s the 6 power). 
Was originally thinking Champion 705 or 735/6 but leaning towards the DX 745/6 now. Is the DX a lot lighter than the Sierra model I have? 
I’m 5’6” so wanted something shorter than 7’6”. The DX 745 is only 2” shorter. If it’s not much lighter then I’ll go regular Champion. 
 

 

Also what do y’all think about a Fury or Sierra 734c strictly for buzzbaits and super spooks? If that’s a good use, what line for that?

734 would be perfect for that. I love the sierras for reaction even though I have champs and dx my Spinnerbait rod is a Sierra 684. Can’t be beat at that. The difference in weight I can’t comment on both the dx and champ I’ve never weighed it. To me it’s noticeable lighter. The 735 champ weighs about what my dx 746 does. The 745 definitely has the edge in sensitivity. My 745 is my pitching and flipping go to for everything from 1/8 oz to rig to 3/4 oz. It can do one oz but i typically go to the 746 for heavier. I use a tatula sv on both the 6 and 5 and to me that’s a pitching match made in heaven with both

[Cbump]

So I took that “weightless worm” rod back. It was just too flimsy for t-rig weightless senko and I like spinning for wacky. Plus I have the “Herm” that could be used for wacky senko if I wanted. 
My “All ‘Round” rods are perfect for me for t-rig senko and since I like my Team Lews Hyper Mag reel so much I put It on one of those rods and took off the Tatula CT.

 

So now I have the Tatula CT and the Tatula SV Ltd that need rods. 
 

This is the plan- Fury 734c for super spooks and Buzzbaits. I don’t throw these too often so I’m going to stick to Fury line instead of spending extra on the Sierra. Honestly might go Colt depending on what Dobyns people say. I’ll put that Tatula CT on this rod. 
 

Currently trying to sell the Sierra 766 like I said. Once I do, I’ll get a Champion DC or DX. The Tatula Elite PF will go on this one. 
 

Still deciding on a rod for the Tatula Limited. Finesse jig falcon is a contender. Honestly might put It on the St Croix I own and use It for my chatterbaits. Then I would just sell the BPS Pro Qualifier. 
 

Then I’d be done lol!

[Cbump]

Yes I over analyze everything. 

[Cbump]

Ordered the DX 745c full handle for pitching and the Maverick 734c for buzzbaits/spooks this morning. 

[kingmotorboat]

21 hours ago, Cbump said:

Ordered the DX 745c full handle for pitching and the Maverick 734c for buzzbaits/spooks this morning. 

Excellent choices

[lunkerboss923]

Here are my Dobyns rods:

 

All Around Finesse   713SF KD

Finesse squarebills/Jerkbait 685CB XP

Treble Hooks  705CB CL  

All Around   734C SA

Moving Baits  736CB GLASS XP 

Jigs  Worm     744C XP

Frogs               735C FR       

 

The I do a lot of things differently. I have simplified my system. This works for me. It may not work for you. I spend the money more on bottom techniques. I want the most sensitivity I can get. I don't need a high dollar squarebill rod, the Colt is awesome for the money and it just works. I don't think you need a high dollar frog rod either. The Colt 734c is said to have high end components similar to a high modulus rods like the Champion. I wouldn't spend much on a 734 all purpose rod. Nothing higher than a Sierra. Spend money on your worm/jig rod and maybe your finesse rod. I like a short jerkbait rod so I spent a little here too.