JDM style Rod?

[Ravox]

What exactly is a JDM style rod and what is the application for this type of rod? Saw on the Daiwa Fuego rod description informing the rod is JDM style what does that mean?

[QED]

I have several JDM rods that have USDM counterparts and I don't note any particular differences in the rods.  The JDM market seems to have better selections (especially in the lighter action rods) and are more likely to come with a rod sock and/or soft case (whether vinyl or nylon).  Don't claim this is universally true but this has been my experience.

[Ravox]

Sorry the ignorance but what is JDM?

[softwateronly]

Japanese Domestic Market

USDM is our equivalent

[Ravox]

8 minutes ago, softwateronly said:

Japanese Domestic Market

USDM is our equivalent

Wow now makes sense sense but still not sure what exactly is a JDM style rod

[softwateronly]

1 minute ago, Ravox said:

Wow now makes sense sense but still not sure what exactly is a JDM style rod

 

It kinda means nothing.  A JDM marketing scheme to go with the rod will be tailored to hit cultural markers.  The rod itself may or may not be different than anything you find here.  In general what I've noticed is that JDM rod makers offer more shorter rods, more high quality multiple piece rods, and they tend to favor a mod/fast taper.  The shorter lengths and multipiece rods are probably due to such low car ownership in such a dense country.  The mod/fast thing might just be what people are accustomed to.  None of these are set in stone though.

 

scott

[RDB]

6 minutes ago, softwateronly said:

The rod itself may or may not be different than anything you find here.  In general what I've noticed is that JDM rod makers offer more shorter rods, more high quality multiple piece rods, and they tend to favor a mod/fast taper. 

Agree…just as USDM rods basically focus heavily on US angler desires, JDM rods tend to cater to their market...there may or may not be differences between specific rods.  Quality and aesthetics on higher end JDM rods are usually next level and they tend to have slower tapers than USDM rods.  Like @softwateronly said, Japanese anglers are typically not as enamored with longer rods like we are, so you will usually find more shorter rod offerings.  There tends to be some different preferences with their reels as well.  Personally, the only time I wouldn’t consider a JDM rod is for bottom contact and only because I can’t hold it first and want to know what I am getting from a power/taper standpoint.

[bulldog1935]

I'll add a twist here, since my last half-dozen rods are JDM and niche-specific. 

Slower taper is one way to interpret it, but you could also say that about my IM6 MM Crowder, blank handmade in Florida. 

What's more accurate is to say Japanese like progressive taper rods, and they may only bring one rod for the day. 

There's absolutely nothing slow about these rods, which will cast and fish well the full lure weight range.  They're also remarkably light in hand, belying both power and length. 

MM power, Regular Fast taper

MH power, Regular Fast taper

@Ravox

JDM = made and packaged in Japan for Japan Domestic Market.  If you look at their reels, they offer 5 different models at home for every reel exported to USM. 

USM = imported to US by a distribution company, built to the manufacturer's interpretation of US desires and specifications. 

USDM = should be made in USA, but you can argue US-based companies importing tackle made to their specifications get to play. 

[Tatulatard]

10 hours ago, Ravox said:

What exactly is a JDM style rod and what is the application for this type of rod? Saw on the Daiwa Fuego rod description informing the rod is JDM style what does that mean?

No bait keeper.?. But I think they think it means it looks cool.  

[FishTank]

Sometimes it's looks over function but when you get both in a JDM rod, it's magic.  

 

 

I have also noticed the slower tapers. The deeper I go into the JDM rod rabbit hole,  it seems they make their rods more geared towards doing a lot of things rather than it being more technique specific. The rod above is rated 3/8 - 2 oz and it can handle any lure from a crankbait to jig in that range beautifully. There are not many US rods that can do that. 

[Jrob78]

14 hours ago, Tatulatard said:

No bait keeper.?. But I think they think it means it looks cool.  

This is what they mean in this case. 

 

What everyone has said about the actions, lengths and powers of JDM rods is 100% dead on but I think the appearance is generally what they mean in this context, especially in lower tier rods.

 

Fancy reel seats, locking nuts, grips, winding checks and woven carbon fiber on the blank are generally "JDM style."

[RDB]

12 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

Slower taper is one way to interpret it, but you could also say that about my IM6 MM Crowder, blank handmade in Florida. 

What's more accurate is to say Japanese like progressive taper rods, and they may only bring one rod for the day. 

I think I (and others) are saying the same thing…the terms are typically used interchangeably.  

[redmeansdistortion]

19 hours ago, Jrob78 said:

Fancy reel seats, locking nuts, grips, winding checks and woven carbon fiber on the blank are generally "JDM style."

They really have the style down to near perfection, in my eyes anyway.  Most of my JDM rods have wooden reel seats and are adorned with rather beautiful hardware.  I've paid as little as $120 and as much as $400 for the JDM rods I own and they all are set up this way.  On USM rods, you get....plastic.  Plastic is perfectly functional and comfy, but aesthetically it's pretty dang boring.  Even more upmarket USM offerings can't get away from plastic.  Granted, they may use plastic for the weight savings, but every single one of my JDM rods is as light or lighter than their USM St Croix counterparts.

[Tatulatard]

Yeah US rods are usually pretty ugly or boring but they are getting better.  I like the look of the new LTB rods.  Yeah they use plastic winding checks instead of anodized aluminum but they have higher labor costs being made in the USA so I guess that helps offset some of that.  In the past they looked like hot garbage but these new ones look sharp with that blue paint, gold thread work, cork and rubberized cork.  Good graphics with nice little detailing.  Good looking rods.

[J Francho]

4 hours ago, Tatulatard said:

Yeah they use plastic winding checks instead of anodized aluminum

The originals didn't have any winding checks.

[KP Duty]

'JDM styling' is just their opinion of the rods contemporary design.

 

Regarding those new Croix LTB's.....I just can't get over the addition of cork where there should be an exposed blank.  

[TNBankFishing]

On 6/14/2022 at 11:26 PM, Ravox said:

Wow now makes sense sense but still not sure what exactly is a JDM style rod

 

I would argue JDM style is actually two parts. The physical styling on the rod and the action of the blank. 
 

Most JDM actions are built for their style of fishing which is much more commonly from the bank. They also prefer more moderate actions as they don’t use many heavy power techniques. You’ll often find shorter rods with unique tapers. 
 

As far as looks JDM rods are almost always better. Nicer handles, better guide placement and wraps, as well as balance. 
 

 

[QED]

US vs JDM versions of the Poison Adrena rods seem to have about the same level of workmanship and cosmetic appearance but the JDM versions seem to have a better selection of BFS/ML as well as additional shorter options as noted by @TNBankFishing.  All my JDM versions came with a nice zippered nylon case - the US versions did not.

[WC53]

Seems in a lot of my 2 piece JDM rods, they have a bit lighter tip then move into mid. Butt sections seem stouter than USDM rods of similar weight ranges. All my experience is with L and ML offerings

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

We can only speculate. Only a call to Daiwa can you your answer. It’s their proclamation, they’ll have to explain the meaning. 

[Tatulatard]

On 6/16/2022 at 4:23 PM, QED said:

US vs JDM versions of the Poison Adrena rods seem to have about the same level of workmanship and cosmetic appearance but the JDM versions seem to have a better selection of BFS/ML as well as additional shorter options as noted by @TNBankFishing.  All my JDM versions came with a nice zippered nylon case - the US versions did not.

I would say that both the jdm and usdm posion adrenas fall under a "jdm style" umbrella and a gloomis would be the Shimano usdm style rod.  I'm speaking purely from an asethetics point of view.  Posion adrenas looks like they come straight out of Japan minus the hook keeper.

[J Francho]

You need to wear JDM style pumps to fish a JDM style rod. Make sure you belt and purse match as well. 

[MN Fisher]

15 minutes ago, J Francho said:

You need to wear JDM style pumps to fish a JDM style rod. Make sure you belt and purse match as well. 

When you gonna model for us, John?

[J Francho]

I'm more of an underwear model than shoes. 

[MN Fisher]