What rod for Charlie Brewer slider heads?

[DitchPanda]

Looking to really start throwing some sliders and other comparable heads. For those that throw them with some regularity what rod do you use? Line as well?

[Bass Rutten]

Any shakey head or medium/fast spinning rod should do the job nicely I use a 7’0” m/f daiwa kage. 

[QED]

Or if you want to do it old school:

https://sliderfishing.com/shop/ols/products/slider-4-9-fishing-rod-with-tennessee-handle-blue-rod1

 

I use the Fenwick equivalents (which are no longer made), i.e., Tennessee handled HMG ultralight rods.

[Mobasser]

I use a 5'9 Fenwick HMG med action. 6 or 8lb mono line. Most any med action would work.

[DitchPanda]

19 minutes ago, QED said:

Or if you want to do it old school:

https://sliderfishing.com/shop/ols/products/slider-4-9-fishing-rod-with-tennessee-handle-blue-rod1

 

I use the Fenwick equivalents (which are no longer made), i.e., Tennessee handled HMG ultralight rods.

 

16 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I use a 5'9 Fenwick HMG med action. 6 or 8lb mono line. Most any med action would work.

What's the idea behind the short rods?

[Mobasser]

I got the Fenwick on a good sale price. Most guys would probably like a longer rod now days. Charlie Brewer liked shorter rods overall

 

[Cgolf]

For the 1/4 ounce and 3/16 ounce spider heads I have been using medium moderate rods for years. Some ugly sticks on the river and on the lake to now Dobyns Sierra medium fast which does have a softer tip than most fast rods in other brands. I have thrown them on medium light rods too. If I had to pick a favorite it is my M 6’9” Dobyns Sierra. I have been using these forever and they really stick the fish. 
 

10 lb fireline on the reels and due to peer pressure a 10 lb flouro leader. 

[OkobojiEagle]

23 minutes ago, DitchPanda said:

 

What's the idea behind the short rods?

In Charlie's day, the shorter rods were lighter and more comfortable to fish... thus easier to identify the light bite typical of slider fishing.

 

Tonight I brought 3 largemouth to hand slinging a Brewer Spider head with a 7' 6" ml Fenwich Techna AV.

 

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[rgasr63]

I fish Charlie Brewer a little bit lite. If you stay true to his method you will learn to be a line watcher. A 6ft to 7 ft medium lite is my choice. 

[papajoe222]

I use a St. Croix 6ft. Med.Lt./Fast for most of my Slider fishing, but I've also used a baitcaster built on a Forecast blank with the same specs. The majority of jig heads are 1/8oz. or 3/16oz.

[uglyasheck]

Diawa Tatula 6' 10" Medium 1/16 to 3/8 oz. lure . This is a great rod for sliders and any other technics. Its light, sensitive, and tough. If you can affford a tatula reel to go with it you want regret it. Until you have fished these rods you can't understand how good they are. I have used the Medium lites also but this 6' 10" can drive the hook in better to me.

[TnRiver46]

6’ or 6’6” flemsy pole, I get them from academy for $12.99

[DitchPanda]

5 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

6’ or 6’6” flemsy pole, I get them from academy for $12.99

Somehow I knew you'd say that

[Chris Catignani]

I will fish a Slider on 6' medium action rod. 6# test. I also will use a 5' 6" rod.

[redmeansdistortion]

6'4" L for me with 6lb mono, works really well.

[Bass Rutten]

On 6/8/2022 at 8:24 PM, DitchPanda said:

What's the idea behind the short rods?

Shorter rods were preferred to facilitate keeping the rod tip as still as posssible.

[Chris Catignani]

On 6/8/2022 at 8:24 PM, DitchPanda said:

 

What's the idea behind the short rods?

I think if Charlie Brewer were alive today...he would have a longer rod.

The shorter rods were just lighter and easier to fish all day.

[DitchPanda]

3 minutes ago, Chris Catignani said:

I think if Charlie Brewer were alive today...he would have a longer rod.

The shorter rods were just lighter and easier to fish all day.

I kinda wonder that as well

[QED]

22 minutes ago, Chris Catignani said:

I think if Charlie Brewer were alive today...he would have a longer rod.

The shorter rods were just lighter and easier to fish all day.

Why?  If he could have used good current gear under his prior gear selection criteria, he'd have a sub 7 oz rig that works better than the gear he actually used.

[DitchPanda]

6 minutes ago, QED said:

Why?  If he could have used good current gear under his prior gear selection criteria. he'd have a sub 7 oz rig that works better than the gear he actually used.

How you figure that?

[QED]

Short Tennessee handled rods can easily weigh under 2 oz.  Mine all do. Vanford spinning reels weigh (in 500 to 2000 form factors) between 4.9 - 5.3 oz.

[Chris Catignani]

17 minutes ago, QED said:

Why?  If he could have used good current gear under his prior gear selection criteria, he'd have a sub 7 oz rig that works better than the gear he actually used.

Charlie Brewer Slider Rods were 4' 3" and 5' they were fiberglass blanks and cork Tennessee handles.

He liked this because it was easy to cast "flick of the wrist" and light weight.

By todays standards...a 6' graphite rod with carbon tube Tennessee handle would completely compare in weight.

This longer rod would be more hook setting power for his "sweep the hook" technique.

I my self just like the 5'6" rod for wading. A shorter rod was easier to carry, circumventing fences and trees...etc

[QED]

20 minutes ago, Chris Catignani said:

Charlie Brewer Slider Rods were 4' 3" and 5' they were fiberglass blanks and cork Tennessee handles.

He liked this because it was easy to cast "flick of the wrist" and light weight.

By todays standards...a 6' graphite rod with carbon tube Tennessee handle would completely compare in weight.

This longer rod would be more hook setting power for his "sweep the hook" technique.

I my self just like the 5'6" rod for wading. A shorter rod was easier to carry, circumventing fences and trees...etc

I use Fenwick 4'9" to 5'6" HMG Tennessee handled rods with Vanford reels for this type of fishing.  All under 7 oz rigs.  I don't think we actually disagree on this subject.

[Chris Catignani]

26 minutes ago, QED said:

I don't think we actually disagree.

Right...I think a large reason for the short Charlie Brewer Slider Rods (and this is just a theory) is this.

He was using Zerbo Cardinal 3 and Mitchel 308 reels and a longer fiberglass rod would have just been a little too top heavy for fishing, a tip up technique like a Slider. I have a couple that are 5'6" and a couple that are 6'. One thing he did get right is that there easy to fish all day.

[KP Duty]

I always have a slider head/4" slider worm tied on one of my spinning rigs. A medium powered rod with 8lb line is conducive to the light cover I throw sliders around.