Takemetothebank Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Being a angler who has to budget some rods my bottom rods being mostly all high end dobyns, was looking for a rod around 7’-7’6 for 1.5square bills and 3 xds I have never owned a rod solely for crankbaits I’m looking for something in the 100-150$ range and and from some of the research I have done I’m probably looking for a medium moderate I have heard good things about the lews composite Kvd rods and I like most of lures he makes has anyone used any of these rods he has a 7’ medium moderate I have been looking at. What do you guys use for these dobyns makes a 705cb fury but it seemed very Stiff like a chatterbaitsx Quote
Eric 26 Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 I have zero experience with the KVD lineup but I have and thoroughly enjoy my TP1 med hvy moderate. Fair price and well made rods imho. Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 If you can live with the power hump handle, the bps crankin sticks are outstanding for the money. Very light and sensitive for a composite. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Takemetothebank said: Being a angler who has to budget some rods my bottom rods being mostly all high end dobyns, was looking for a rod around 7’-7’6 for 1.5square bills and 3 xds I have never owned a rod solely for crankbaits I’m looking for something in the 100-150$ range and and from some of the research I have done I’m probably looking for a medium moderate I have heard good things about the lews composite Kvd rods and I like most of lures he makes has anyone used any of these rods he has a 7’ medium moderate I have been looking at. What do you guys use for these dobyns makes a 705cb fury but it seemed very Stiff like a chatterbaitsx The Fury 703c will do what you want, regardless of what Gary says, that is a medium moderate rod, and square bills and shallow cranks don't require a cranking specific rod, as do the deeper bigger billed ones. Quote
AmmoGuy Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 https://alxrods.com/collections/ikos/products/hustler-7-medium-heavy-moderate-casting 1 Quote
Takemetothebank Posted June 7, 2022 Author Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Deleted account said: The Fury 703c will do what you want, regardless of what Gary says, that is a medium moderate rod, and square bills and shallow cranks don't require a cranking specific rod, as do the deeper bigger billed ones. I have a 733c that I love for chatterbaits spinnerbaits underspins and things of that nature but I want a rod that does a little better with treble hooks. the 703 and 733 are both fast action rods however the fury lineup of rods use a slower graphite than the champions I love the fury’s and sierras for open hook moving baits and jerk-baits as they load deep into the rod like a mod fast would but it takes a good amount of pressure Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Deleted account said: The Fury 703c will do what you want Agree 2 hours ago, Deleted account said: regardless of what Gary says, that is a medium moderate rod Agree. I use the FR733C mostly as my squarebill rod and light wire hook weightless moving plastics. No issues keeping fished pinned on trebles, even with straight braid. I don't really have much love for the Fury line, but this rod is really quite good used for these baits. One of my favorite combos for zipping out small squarebills. 7 minutes ago, Takemetothebank said: the 703 and 733 are both fast action rods That's what's printed on the label anyway. Most of my rods are crisp mediums and medium heavies. Just my preference. The Fury 733C is my slowest by far. If you want slower than that look at the Mojo Glass. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Takemetothebank said: I have a 733c that I love for chatterbaits That's not my experience. I haven't had much luck setting a chatter's jig hook with this rod. Too many shake-offs. I've had far better luck using an inexpensive 13 Defy Black 7'3" Composite CB rod. Much more gusto. Socks the hook home nicely through the hard spots. 1 Quote
WC53 Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 I really like the mojo bass glass crankbait, medium moderate. If they had a ML, I would get one. River smallies and trout Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, PhishLI said: That's not my experience. I haven't had much luck setting a chatter's jig hook with this rod. Too many shake-offs. I've had far better luck using an inexpensive 13 Defy Black 7'3" Composite CB rod. Much more gusto. Socks the hook home nicely through the hard spots. Yeah, they have a spongy mid section that doesn't lock out. When I cast a WP 110 with a Fury 704c, I can feel the bend down to my hands, and it clicks in protest a tad, in fairness I am launching it for all it's worth. Interesting thing I saw earlier this year, I was killing time at a DSG, and I got to handling a Fury 733c, which was significantly faster and crisper than my 703c, not sure if that is due to a change in the blank, the fact that mine is several years old, or other factors, but it wasn't even close, and it seemed a lot bigger difference than slight longer blank would account for. Quote
Super User casts_by_fly Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 I'm an unabashed falcon fan (Jason Christie can't be too far wrong!) and for what you're talking, the Lowrider 7' all 'round is the right stick. Its a medium heavy, moderate fast per the ratings, but Falcons fish just a touch lighter and slower than the rating. I have the Bucoo SR version (trapcaster) and use it for exactly what you say (though I use DT6/10 on it and not 3XD). It's not as moderate as a true cranking rod, but for this sized bait I don't want that. Also does great with a lipless, and I have fished it with a bunch of other things. The Lowrider is just a bit more responsive, has cork instead of foam, and it just a bit nicer rod (worth the extra $30 or so). If you feel the need for more length and power (i.e. a 3XD is the smaller end of things for you) then you can bump up to the 7'3" Deep Runner/Hudson special but only in the Bucoo/Expert lines. I have the expert and fish it for cranks and bigger topwater (buzzbaits, ploppers, etc). Its a bigger, more significant rod than the 7', moreso than the ratings would suggest. If I'm planning to throw DT6/10 I'll go the 7'. If it is DT10/14 then the Hudson. Quote
ironbjorn Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Fury 703c or 733c. For reasons the others mentioned. The 705cb is a limp noodle. 3 hours ago, Takemetothebank said: I have a 733c that I love for chatterbaits spinnerbaits underspins and things of that nature but I want a rod that does a little better with treble hooks. the 703 and 733 are both fast action rods however the fury lineup of rods use a slower graphite than the champions I love the fury’s and sierras for open hook moving baits and jerk-baits as they load deep into the rod like a mod fast would but it takes a good amount of pressure I couldn't imagine using a Dobyns 3 power for chatterbaits. Overloaded feeling on the cast and too soft for a hookset. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted June 7, 2022 Super User Posted June 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, ironbjorn said: I couldn't imagine using a Dobyns 3 power for chatterbaits. Overloaded feeling on the cast and too soft for a hookset. Agreed - though I do toss 1/4oz chatters on my FR703 - but 3/8 and up go on my Aird-X MH/F, which would equate more to a 704. My FR704 is my jig/T-Rig/bottom contact rod. 1 Quote
FrnkNsteen Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 If you like Dobyns rods and have a $150 budget, Id consider the Sierra or Kaden series. Someone mentioned the Fury 733, but I really prefer the Sierra series,... Especially for what you are describing. In my opinion, they feel lighter and have a slower action than the Fury and Champion lines. I love my 734 Sierra. Haven't tried the Sierra 733, but after fishing some with my 734, I plan to pick one up. The Kaden 735cb has been getting pretty good reviews as well. 1 Quote
Takemetothebank Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 19 hours ago, Deleted account said: Yeah, they have a spongy mid section that doesn't lock out. When I cast a WP 110 with a Fury 704c, I can feel the bend down to my hands, and it clicks in protest a tad, in fairness I am launching it for all it's worth. Interesting thing I saw earlier this year, I was killing time at a DSG, and I got to handling a Fury 733c, which was significantly faster and crisper than my 703c, not sure if that is due to a change in the blank, the fact that mine is several years old, or other factors, but it wasn't even close, and it seemed a lot bigger difference than slight longer blank would account for. My 733 is significantly slower than my 703c I chalked it up to the extra length kinda like how a 7’11 medium heavy mod fast is almost a noodle. Sorry I feel like I’m still not explaining this well so the first 1/3rd of a 7ft rod is about 2.3 ft the first 1/3rd in a 7’11 is abt 2.7 ft so you will have more bend on a longer rod. For me the fury line is great for open hook moving baits as the graphite is pretty slow and they have more of a parabolic bend for things like flukes soft plastic swim baits I like them for chatterbaits but some people like a med heavy or heavy moderate spinnerbaits light wire swim jigs things like that. I’ve been trying to throw some square bills and series’s 3s on my 733 but it feels like it doesent cast them very far and it doesent allow the baits to deflect off cover as well as they should. what are your thoughts of the omen black they have a 7’4 med heavy moderate and a 7’ medium moderate im looking at 16 hours ago, FrnkNsteen said: If you like Dobyns rods and have a $150 budget, Id consider the Sierra or Kaden series. Someone mentioned the Fury 733, but I really prefer the Sierra series,... Especially for what you are describing. In my opinion, they feel lighter and have a slower action than the Fury and Champion lines. I love my 734 Sierra. Haven't tried the Sierra 733, but after fishing some with my 734, I plan to pick one up. The Kaden 735cb has been getting pretty good reviews as well. I’ve never used the kaydens or Sierras but plan on getting a k712sf in the near future I’ve only ever used the champ 744 fury 703sf 703c and 733c and I love all of them I will say the furys feel like the actions are much slower and less crisp and snappy than the champs. That champ 744cfh is an amazing jig and worm rod Quote
Eric 26 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 I’ve not personally used the Omen Black, but I was going to purchase the 7’-0” after handling it at a local tackle shop. Felt really nice in hand but I wound up with a couple of bps crankin sticks instead. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted June 8, 2022 Super User Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Takemetothebank said: what are your thoughts of the omen black they have a 7’4 med heavy moderate and a 7’ medium moderate im looking at I have no experience with them other than handling them at a shop, they seemed ok enough, and felt alright in hand. Quote
Takemetothebank Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 I may go with the 13 fate black 7’0 medium and maybe later get a 7’4 med heavy as I don’t currently throw a ton of cranks and I don’t believe in spending a butoad of money on a moving bait rod as sensitivity doesent matter really only how the rod loads and since most of the time it’s wedged in your stomach weight isint super important either the ones I do throw are on the 733 but it just feels like it doesent fit the application kinda like trying to fish a popper or spook on a frog rod you can but it’s much harder to fish the baits correctly and esp with smaller cranks like 1.0s and 3xds it really limits the casting. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted June 8, 2022 Super User Posted June 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Takemetothebank said: what are your thoughts of the omen black I have several models of Omen Black 2s, so they're full cork models instead of split grips, and 30T blanks instead of 36T. They've been perfectly reliable being fished in overgrown water for the past 5 years, and I'm pleased with them all around. No complaints at the asking price, Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted June 8, 2022 Super User Posted June 8, 2022 The Dobyns 705CB rod is about perfect for the job. I don't find it too stiff by any means. If you are looking for a very versatile rod check out the Fury 703C. If you can swing the extra cost, the Sierra 703C is well worth the price increase as well (and is said to have a little less tip). It's not a great option for deep divers, but is great for square bills, jerkbaits, weightless senkos, spooks, lighter spinnerbaits and buzzbaits (up to 3/8oz), poppers and such. It just might become the most versatile rod in your arsenal. Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted June 9, 2022 Global Moderator Posted June 9, 2022 I really like the crankbait rods that St. Croix makes. You can get a couple around your price range, either in the Bass X line up; https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/St_Croix_Bass_X_Casting_Rods/descpage-TCVB.html?from=basres Or the Mojo; https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/St_Croix_Mojo_Bass_Trigon_Casting_Rods/descpage-CMBBC.html?from=basres Quote
Cory20 Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 I picked up a 7' MH Okuma EVX cranking rod and have been absolutely loving it. It easily feels the wobble and has good action. I'm guessing the japanese sticks are a little lighter than their american counterparts because my other MH rods are a bit more beefier. It wouldnt be great for bombing big, deep cranks, but for what you're after it's worth a serious look. Quote
Takemetothebank Posted June 10, 2022 Author Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Cory N said: I picked up a 7' MH Okuma EVX cranking rod and have been absolutely loving it. It easily feels the wobble and has good action. I'm guessing the japanese sticks are a little lighter than their american counterparts because my other MH rods are a bit more beefier. It wouldnt be great for bombing big, deep cranks, but for what you're after it's worth a serious look. The biggest I have a need for is a strike king series’s 5 one thing I do want is either composite or glass I don’t like straight graphite cranking rods Quote
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