Line Memory

[Tom23]

What are all the ways people get memory out of their line? It seems like I have tried every trick and every line and I still end up with a back lash. Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.

[T-Billy]

KVD line conditioner.

[Deleted account]

3 hours ago, Tom23 said:

What are all the ways people get memory out of their line? It seems like I have tried every trick and every line and I still end up with a back lash. Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.

Get it wet, hook up a couple of good ones and have 'em yank on it a bit, conversely, get it wet, then tie it off to something and yank on it a bit, don't try this with FC though.

[Jigfishn10]

12 minutes ago, Deleted account said:

Get it wet, hook up a couple of good ones and have 'em yank on it a bit, conversely, get it wet, then tie it off to something and yank on it a bit, don't try this with FC though.

The first suggestion is waaaay more fun.  

[bulldog1935]

line memory does not equate to backlash

 

Backlash is caused by the spool outrunning the lure. 

Here's the complete skinny on backlash. 

analyze your backlash and figure out what's going on. 

We can work on it from there. 

Line memory is annoying enough that I fish braid to eliminate it. 

But again, line memory doesn't cause or relate to backlash. 

[Jig Man]

54 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

line memory does not equate to backlash

 

Backlash is caused by the spool outrunning the lure. 

Here's the complete skinny on backlash. 

analyze your backlash and figure out what's going on. 

We can work on it from there. 

Line memory is annoying enough that I fish braid to eliminate it. 

But again, line memory doesn't cause or relate to backlash. 

So true.  One of my shaky setups has tremendous memory as it’s been months since I changed the fluorocarbon line.  All of a sudden I threw 2 backlashes in a row today.  When I checked the reel the spool knob was too loose.  An itty bitty tighten solved the problem.

[WRB]

5 hours ago, Tom23 said:

What are all the ways people get memory out of their line? It seems like I have tried every trick and every line and I still end up with a back lash. Any tips and tricks would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to BR!

What rod, reel and line are you using?

Several factors can cause line issues.

Tom

[PhishLI]

6 hours ago, Tom23 said:

What are all the ways people get memory out of their line?

I have a rig I haven't used in over a month. The reel is spooled with 20 lb Berkeley Big Game mono. It'll be like a slinky by now. When I get to the lake tonight the first thing I'll do is tie on a Whopper Plopper 130, juice the brakes up on the reel a few clicks, then heave that sucka out to the middle of the lake. Then, I'll put the rod's tip in the water to submerge the line and get it wet, then crank the bait back in. Memory problems solved. So there you are. Tie on a resistance or heavy bait first thing and get your line wet.

 

Like @Jig Man said, a whisper of spool tension will right your ship and won't hurt nuthin. Figure out your brakes combined with your feel/cast and you'll be able to back it off eventually.

[txchaser]

4 hours ago, T-Billy said:

KVD line conditioner.

^^^^^^^^^^

[Boomstick]

6 hours ago, T-Billy said:

KVD line conditioner.

I swear by it to this day, and it rarely lets me down.

[king fisher]

I don't know about fishing line, but age seems to be eliminating my memory.

[Catt]

Go fishing more often

 

The longer Monofilament, Fluorocarbon, or Copolymore sits on a reel unused the worst "coiling" gets. 

 

Ain't been fishing in 3 weeks due to a pulled hamstring. Next time I head out I will respool all reels. Another huge advantage of Big Game is I can respool often & not break the bank!

[RDB]

I don’t understand why people keep saying fluoro can’t be stretched or it will ruin it.  You would think there has never been a fish over 2 pounds caught on fluoro or that no fisherman with a cross the eyes hookset has ever used fluoro.  Most of my reels have fluoro and probably a lighter test than normal and I respool infrequently.  I occasionally hang up and have to break the line using max effort and regularly catch fish that I think are going to test the lines limits and have never had an issue.  
 

It’s ok to hate fluoro and it’s ok to bash others that like it if it makes you feel better.  However, it seems to me that some let their hate of fluoro and those who use it cloud common sense.  It’s funny that those who make their living bass fishing consistently choose fluoro over a SUPER popular mono promoted on this site (or any mono for that matter) by an overwhelming margin.  And when they do choose mono, it’s almost always for technique specific applications which I do as well.

[cottny27]

I walk off about 30yds and stretch the heck out of InvizX and use conditioner in between fishing trips..no issues. 

[Mike L]

9 hours ago, RDB said:

I don’t understand why people keep saying fluoro can’t be stretched or it will ruin it.  You would think there has never been a fish over 2 pounds caught on fluoro or that no fisherman with a cross the eyes hookset has ever used fluoro.  Most of my reels have fluoro and probably a lighter test than normal and I respool infrequently.  I occasionally hang up and have to break the line using max effort and regularly catch fish that I think are going to test the lines limits and have never had an issue.  
 

It’s ok to hate fluoro and it’s ok to bash others that like it if it makes you feel better.  However, it seems to me that some let their hate of fluoro and those who use it cloud common sense.  It’s funny that those who make their living bass fishing consistently choose fluoro over a SUPER popular mono promoted on this site (or any mono for that matter) by an overwhelming margin.  And when they do choose mono, it’s almost always for technique specific applications which I do as well.

Well Done!!

You said much better what I’ve been trying to get across on here for as long as I can remember!

 

When the subject of knots come up…..

Never mind. 
 

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

[bulldog1935]

As far as stretch goes, there's elastic stretch, which you want - it relaxes back to ground state. 

Beyond that is plastic (permanent) stretch, which you don't want. 

This came up on another thread about wind knots - if you could look at the permanent stretch under a microscope, you'd see a thinned line, with thicker round nodes every fraction of a mm.  The nodes are where the physical structure of the polymer is changing - the polymer chains are coiling up into little balls (if you want to look it up, they're fringed micelles).

(Still doesn't relate to the OP's question, which was about backlash)

[J Francho]

9 hours ago, RDB said:

I don’t understand why people keep saying fluoro can’t be stretched or it will ruin it.  You would think there has never been a fish over 2 pounds caught on fluoro or that no fisherman with a cross the eyes hookset has ever used fluoro.  Most of my reels have fluoro and probably a lighter test than normal and I respool infrequently.  I occasionally hang up and have to break the line using max effort and regularly catch fish that I think are going to test the lines limits and have never had an issue.  
 

It’s ok to hate fluoro and it’s ok to bash others that like it if it makes you feel better.  However, it seems to me that some let their hate of fluoro and those who use it cloud common sense.  It’s funny that those who make their living bass fishing consistently choose fluoro over a SUPER popular mono promoted on this site (or any mono for that matter) by an overwhelming margin.  And when they do choose mono, it’s almost always for technique specific applications which I do as well.

This especially well put.  I'll go one further on the stretch bit.  My largest brown trout (22 lbs.) was caught using a 4# Seaguar Blue Label leader, attached to a 6# Blue Label shot line, attached to 8# P-Line CXX.  The attachments were all made with Raven 20# micro swivels using uni knots - 5 knots in total.   The entire terminal rig is about 13' long, which is about as long as my centrepin float rod.  Pretty sure this dispels the many points of failure, stretch ruins fluoro, or that it isn't for big fish.  I doubt anyone encounters this extreme in bass fishing.  Oh, the "bait" for this is a little bead, pegged just above the hook with a broken toothpick.  Toothpicks don't harm your line either...

 

 

For the OP, check your reel settings.  Coiling doesn't cause backlashes.  You can use KVD L&L to help with the issue, but really, a few casts and a fish or two mitigates the problem.  

[A-Jay]

9 hours ago, RDB said:

I don’t understand why people keep saying fluoro can’t be stretched or it will ruin it.  You would think there has never been a fish over 2 pounds caught on fluoro or that no fisherman with a cross the eyes hookset has ever used fluoro.  Most of my reels have fluoro and probably a lighter test than normal and I respool infrequently.  I occasionally hang up and have to break the line using max effort and regularly catch fish that I think are going to test the lines limits and have never had an issue.  
 

It’s ok to hate fluoro and it’s ok to bash others that like it if it makes you feel better.  However, it seems to me that some let their hate of fluoro and those who use it cloud common sense.  It’s funny that those who make their living bass fishing consistently choose fluoro over a SUPER popular mono promoted on this site (or any mono for that matter) by an overwhelming margin.  And when they do choose mono, it’s almost always for technique specific applications which I do as well.

 

21 minutes ago, cottny27 said:

I walk off about 30yds and stretch the heck out of InvizX and use conditioner in between fishing trips..no issues. 

 I like & use FC almost exclusively on casting gear.

However, I had to 'learn' how to use it best, for how I fish.

During the learning process, I experience 'Mystery break offs'.

I actually called them something else , but decorum prevents me from noting that here.

Either way, whether it was from over stressing the line, backlash damage or whatever,

it cost me fish & baits. 

Not a fan.

To help combat this mysterious phenomenon , I've tried to use a high quality product AND

change my line at regular intervals OR at the first sign of anything that might jack it up. 

Things have been better ever since.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

A-Jay

[TOXIC]

There’s 2 types of “coils” you get on your line.  1. Coils from just sitting and aging on your spool which is line memory.  2.  Coils from a lure or presentation that twists your line.  For line twist, just periodically walk off or unspool a good portion with nothing on the end and reel it back in with pressure between your thumb and first finger.  It will untwist as you reel it in.  For line memory I would use your favorite line conditioner and walk off line like I said above.  

[Catt]

10 hours ago, RDB said:

funny that those who make their living bass fishing consistently choose fluoro over a SUPER popular mono promoted on this site (or any mono for that matter) by an overwhelming margin.

 

Those Pros don't pay for their line or they wouldn't be respooling every night. Watched a recent video of KVD respooling 12 reels while the interview was going on. Watched G-man doing 4 reel at once.

 

34 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

I had to 'learn' how to use it best, for how I fish.

 

That applies to every type of line. 

 

[RDB]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

Those Pros don't pay for their line or they wouldn't be respooling every night. Watched a recent video of KVD respooling 12 reels while the interview was going on. Watched G-man doing 4 reel at once.

Do you really think they respool their line every night?  And even if they did (they don’t), are you saying it’s because of stretch?  They probably respool more than most because as you said, they have that luxury.  However they likely respool every reel regardless of line type (with the exception of braid).  And it’s not just the TV pro’s that overwhelmingly choose fluoro.  You will find that fluoro is heavily preferred in the vast majority of bass clubs.  I know you are a mono fan and that’s fine.  I have no hate for mono and it does have place in my arsenal as well.  People should use what they are confident in but IMO, they also shouldn’t spread false fear because of their bias.  I’m not saying you are spreading false fear.  I just responded because literally every topic on this board that has anything to do with line will eventually get to fluoro bashing.

[J Francho]

More that isn't really debatable: In the end, fluoro and braid are less expensive than mono because they both last so much longer.  Pretty sure I have 10 year old braid on a couple reels and have gone as long as 6 years with fluoro.  Both are more expensive up front, but pay off in the long run.

[WRB]

When paying to play in a cash back bass tournament you want “fresh” line to start out with. If you spool fresh line a few weeks ago and haven’t used the reel it’s “fresh” line.

FC is far more prone to stress failures then mono or Copolymer line. Stress comes for use, freeing a snag, catch strong bass and abrasion. 

Seaguar’s new BasIX is nearly the same price as most premium mono/Copolymer line $10/200 yards, game changer.

Tom

[LrgmouthShad]

Man, this mono vs fluoro thing is really pervasive isn’t it. It’s like a black hole. Can hardly talk line without it sucking people in. 

[Mike L]

33 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

Man, this mono vs fluoro thing is really pervasive isn’t it. It’s like a black hole. Can hardly talk line without it sucking people in. 

Every time

 

 

 

 

 

Mike