Super User LrgmouthShad Posted June 9, 2022 Super User Posted June 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, soflabasser said: Anyone who has well developed thighs and calves can pull off wearing shorts. Those with chicken legs or cottage cheese thighs should stick to wearing long pants. Of course, many people can pull them off. It’s really just a question of who wants to rock them. But brother, those are not just any shorts. Except for my running shorts, which put those shorts to shame, all shorts I have are like knee length.  Different generation though 1 1 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted June 9, 2022 Super User Posted June 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said: Of course, many people can pull them off. It’s really just a question of who wants to rock them. But brother, those are not just any shorts. Except for my running shorts, which put those shorts to shame, all shorts I have are like knee length.  Different generation though You make a good point. Running shorts are great for running and swimming, but it is better to wear long shorts or long pants to protect your skin from the sun. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted June 9, 2022 Global Moderator Posted June 9, 2022 Summertime Fishing in a boat mid-late afternoon in the southeastern US is a workout even if you are sitting still in a chair. Spontaneous combustion feels imminent at times 4 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted June 9, 2022 Super User Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Summertime Fishing in a boat mid-late afternoon in the southeastern US is a workout even if you are sitting still in a chair. Spontaneous combustion feels imminent at times I am off the water by 1 PM usually nowadays. It’s nice though, it’s been a little cooler recently. 1 Quote
fin Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, LrgmouthShad said: Different generation though Back when that pic was taken, everybody wore shorts like that. Anybody wearing shorts like are common now would be considered a dork. Only old men would wear long shorts, and even those weren't as long as today's shorts. Â Don't get me started on women's clothing back then. This is a family site. ? 2 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted June 9, 2022 Super User Posted June 9, 2022 Navy SEALS, Marathon runners, and other athletes wear shorts since it makes it easier to run, swim, and do other workouts. Basketball players also wear shorts, since it is an extremely athletic sport were you need to be able to move fast, long pants will not help in this sport. You do not need to wear shorts while bass fishing on a boat, since you are barely moving. If your goal is to get a good workout while bass fishing, then bank fishing is the best option. You can easily walk several miles while bank fishing, that is a good workout for anyone. If bank fishing becomes too easy, you can always run a full marathon if you are up to the challenge. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted June 9, 2022 Super User Posted June 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Fishlegs said: Please tell us more about your regimen. This part sounds like something I could stick with. lol George Thorogood is my hydration consultant... 4 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted June 9, 2022 Author Super User Posted June 9, 2022 2 hours ago, soflabasser said: Anyone who has well developed thighs and calves can pull off wearing shorts. Those with chicken legs or cottage cheese thighs should stick to wearing long pants. Bank fishing for hours is a good workout, unlike sitting on a boat and drinking beer, that is a great way to get a Hank Hill physique. lol I joke that I am built like a chicken. Â skinny legs, big body.... 1 Quote
MassBass Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Sell your outboard and get oarlocks..this is your exercise now. 1 Quote
Fishlegs Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Deleted account said: George Thorogood is my hydration consultant... That’s B-B-B-B-B bad. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted June 10, 2022 Super User Posted June 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Fishlegs said: That’s B-B-B-B-B bad. ...to the bone... Quote
throttleplate Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 Due to inflation i stopped buying cookies that i would munch on while fishing. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted June 10, 2022 Super User Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/2/2022 at 8:01 PM, soflabasser said: Your diet is by far the most important thing you need to improve on if your goal is to get lean, exercise is second. I lost a considerable amount of weight in the past 2 years, and I now have visible abs and visible veins along my arms, forearms, chest, thighs, and calves. I exercise, but most of my results came from eating a healthy diet. When it comes to fishing, I fish from the shore in freshwater, and wade fish in ocean, this type of fishing is a good workout, unlike bass fishing on a boat sitting on a chair drinking beers and eating junk food.  Understand that the first couple of months of eating healthy is the hardest time, after that you get used to it, and your body will thank you for it in the long run. The typical American diet is extremely unhealthy, loaded with fat, sugar, and highly processed foods, you need to eat very little of these foods, and focus on highly nutritious foods that are good for you. Stay away from fast food, sugar, highly processed foods, eat healthy, and exercise often, and with time you will achieve your goals. There's been a lot of recent research to back this up that's challenging 100 years of conventional thought. For the longest time, it was assumed that calories in minus calories burned equals weight gained. It made sense, so no one thought to question it. However, there's been a lot of recent studies suggesting that this isn't so. It now looks like unused calories are passed through your body. And the idea of having a fast or slow metabolism is a myth. Afterall, if you had a faster metabolism, then logically you would also have a higher body temperature. Since you literally burn calories, the more calories you burn, the more heat that would be generated. So everyone has about the same metabolism. We are warm blooded animals, after all.   The research is pointing to the hormone insulin and suggests that it is responsible for taking excess energy and converting it into fat. And limiting your intake of sugars (regular sugar, processed sugars like corn syrup, and carbohydrates), limits your body's production of insulin which limits its ability to add fat. This also explains the obvious genetic component to weight gain, as not everybody produces the same amount of insulin or reacts the same way to it.   I can speak from personal experience that after reading some of this research, my wife and I drastically cut down our sugar intake, and with making no other changes to our diet or exercise, we've both managed to lose about 30 lbs. each in the last 8 months.   Also, the research is suggesting that fat cells live for around 10 years. So once you've added them, it takes a long, long time to remove them. However, they can shrink in the short term, so weight loss is still possible. But you have to keep the weight off for a long time to prevent it from coming back so easily. So you really have to think of it as a lifestyle change, and not just a short-term diet to get the full benefit.   Obviously, all of this is still new and not proven. It'll be years and tons of studies and experiments before we know anything for sure. But that's the direction the medical community is leaning, for now.  2 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted June 10, 2022 Author Super User Posted June 10, 2022 I think its 80% diet, 20% exercise. Â trust me I have experimented enough to do the math. Â I am not that out of shape, but I am getting older and I'm just trying to slow the march of time. Â my last kayak outing was killer exercise. Â I did like 1000 deep knee squats. Â I was getting up and down from a very very low Hobie kayak seat position looking for fish in clear shallow water. Â my legs were gassed. Â just scooched forward, shifted my weight and stood up. Â repeatedly. Â a few of my younger fishing friends can't stand up from that position. Â loss of flexibility or something. Â they can't even poop from a squat. Â hehe. 1 Quote
Fat Ika Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 @Darth-Baiter IMO. Eating healthy all the time and mitigating any type of environmental stressors is always going to be primary with warding of future health issues. Formal exercise usually leads to injuries overtime since there's so much misinformation regarding exercise, and we as humans like to challenge ourselves without really listening to the body. I would just stick to listening to your body and doing natural physical activity as many people mentioned such as just walking to lake, fishing, activities of daily living, and very very smart resistance training cardio. Basically, just listen to the body's intuition, which can be challenging without learning from past consequences/wisdom. This advise comes from years of professional experience working with all populations on biomechanical/neuromuscular function. Doesn't mean I'm right. It's complicated and no one is an expert........... even with a lifetime the correct education, coaching, practical application, and other areas that can be defined under medical/health experience. 1 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted June 10, 2022 Super User Posted June 10, 2022 I don't exercise while I fish and I don't fish when I exercise. For me the two are separate and will mostly likely never come together. Not saying it's not a thing, just not for me. A healthy diet & regular exercise IMO is & will always be the way to go. There's a lot of ways to achieve this depending on ones needs & goals. That list in probably on the infinite scale. I say pick something and stick with it. Modify as needed. Staying lean, having decent balance & flexibility as well as at least average strength is and will always be important to me. Enough so that when I retired I added a home gym. Resistance training helps with the attributes listed above and has been part of my entire adult life and still is at 62. The 'latest research' is hard to keep up with and even harder to know what's actually beneficial. I keep it super simple & basic. Whole & natural foods work well for me. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/198637-working-to-stay-lean-~/?do=findComment&comment=2841041 A-Jay  2 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted June 10, 2022 Super User Posted June 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Bankc said: I can speak from personal experience that after reading some of this research, my wife and I drastically cut down our sugar intake, and with making no other changes to our diet or exercise, we've both managed to lose about 30 lbs. each in the last 8 months.  Congratulations to you and your Wife for losing the weight and keeping it off, it is not easy, and it takes a lot of will power to do this. 8 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said: I think its 80% diet, 20% exercise. I would say it is closer to 90% diet and 10% exercise, at least it is for me and others I have helped reach their fitness goals. 4 hours ago, A-Jay said: A healthy diet & regular exercise IMO is & will always be the way to go. Well said @A-Jay. Eating a healthy diet and exercising regularly is the best thing a person can do for themselves. 4 hours ago, A-Jay said: Whole & natural foods work well for me. We are meant to eat whole and natural foods, not highly processed foods, added sugar, and other nasty stuff. If most people were to know what ''natural flavors'', ''natural colors'', and other additives in processed food really are they would be disgusted. 1 Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted June 10, 2022 Super User Posted June 10, 2022 8 hours ago, Bankc said: So you really have to think of it as a lifestyle change, and not just a short-term diet to get the full benefit.  I agree with you 100%! There was a time in my life I let myself go, I will never let that happen again. I am now lean enough that my abs show, and have visible veins on my arms, forearms, chest, thighs, calves. My diet is strict, but it is worth it since nothing taste as good as being lean. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted June 11, 2022 Super User Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/9/2022 at 3:42 PM, LrgmouthShad said: Â Â I fish out of a aluminum boat, them shorts ain't gonna get it! Â Did add some exercise, pulled a ham string, & been on crutches for 2 weeks. Â That'll build your arms & shoulders! 2 Quote
schplurg Posted June 11, 2022 Posted June 11, 2022 10% exercise and 90% diet is fine for getting lean. I personally want to increase how long I can fish and pedal the yak, how far I can hike to fish., and how far I can hike period. I'm strengthening. I want a strong core so my spine isn't doing all the work. Â So I'm more into the workout than I am the diet. It takes both though of course. I'm thinking more about what I should be eating too. Â Hiking is cool because it can be fun and beautiful, and you can't just get off the machine and sit on the couch. If you're 2 miles out, you're hiking back 2 miles whether you like it or not. I doubt I could use a machine indoors consistently. Too easy to quit. Â Maybe you could work a reward into the machine, like the refrigerator door won't open unless you burn 400 calories, or the TV shuts off if you stop pedaling. Â I told everyone I know about my new love for hiking and getting in shape, one reason was in case I wanted to quit...everyone would know! Â 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted June 11, 2022 Super User Posted June 11, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 9:44 AM, Bankc said: There's been a lot of recent research to back this up that's challenging 100 years of conventional thought. For the longest time, it was assumed that calories in minus calories burned equals weight gained. It made sense, so no one thought to question it. However, there's been a lot of recent studies suggesting that this isn't so. It now looks like unused calories are passed through your body. And the idea of having a fast or slow metabolism is a myth. Afterall, if you had a faster metabolism, then logically you would also have a higher body temperature. Since you literally burn calories, the more calories you burn, the more heat that would be generated. So everyone has about the same metabolism. We are warm blooded animals, after all.   The research is pointing to the hormone insulin and suggests that it is responsible for taking excess energy and converting it into fat. And limiting your intake of sugars (regular sugar, processed sugars like corn syrup, and carbohydrates), limits your body's production of insulin which limits its ability to add fat. This also explains the obvious genetic component to weight gain, as not everybody produces the same amount of insulin or reacts the same way to it.   I can speak from personal experience that after reading some of this research, my wife and I drastically cut down our sugar intake, and with making no other changes to our diet or exercise, we've both managed to lose about 30 lbs. each in the last 8 months.   Also, the research is suggesting that fat cells live for around 10 years. So once you've added them, it takes a long, long time to remove them. However, they can shrink in the short term, so weight loss is still possible. But you have to keep the weight off for a long time to prevent it from coming back so easily. So you really have to think of it as a lifestyle change, and not just a short-term diet to get the full benefit.   Obviously, all of this is still new and not proven. It'll be years and tons of studies and experiments before we know anything for sure. But that's the direction the medical community is leaning, for now.  Most of what you describe has been known for a very long time. I know "insulin resistance" is the buzz phrase de jeur, but it's influence on sugar regulation, and the related metabolic processes are well documented. High fructose corn syrup is not the boogie man that it is made out to be, the problem is a diet too rich in sugars of all types combined with too much overall carbohydrates and total calories combined with a sedentary life style. There is no magic pill, it takes a healthy diet and some exercise on an ongoing basis. Quote
Super User N Florida Mike Posted June 12, 2022 Super User Posted June 12, 2022 No matter what I do or dont do, I stay around 250 pounds. I walk some every day while working. In Florida, that means sweating a lot. I have been eating a lot of salad, and rarely get seconds anymore at supper. I rarely eat all 3 meals anymore, sometimes just 1. I gave up hot dogs, vienna sausage and french fries for the most part. Rarely eat steak. I’ve cut back in all areas, including bread . But I don’t lose weight. I’ve have the same waist size now for over 15 years.  1 Quote
Trox Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 I carry a Gold's Gym membership primarily for the dry saunas that they have (and work pays for it, which helps). When I feel like summer is right around the corner, I will spend a month or so going to the sauna 3-4 days/week so my body can kind of "relearn" how to handle the heat... and it tends to adapt pretty quick with consistent exposure to 160 degree temperatures! I try to stay in for around 30mins each time, 10mins in, 2-3 mins out, 10mins in, 2-3 mins out, etc... After starting that routine a few years back the heat doesn't really bother me [as] much anymore (as long as i'm well hydrated) as my body is ready for it by the time we start getting heat advisories down here, which have been every day here recently... May not be the type of exercise that this topic was referring to exactly, but it definately puts stress on the body that forces it to adapt, and for a good purpose in my opinion. That's about as close as fishing and exercise will ever get to each other for me though. Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted June 12, 2022 Super User Posted June 12, 2022 9 hours ago, schplurg said: So I'm more into the workout than I am the diet. Your diet is much more important than how much or how hard you workout. You can workout several hours a day, but you will not see optimum results if you are not eating well, and resting enough. Make sure to not overtrain, since it will slow you down. The food you eat is the fuel for your body, the better the fuel the easier it will be for your body to perform at a higher level. Cut out sugars, processed foods, other junk food, and focus on eating a diet rich in complex carbohydrates, lean meats, fruits, and vegetables. The first 3 months will be the hardest, and it will test your will power more than anything in life, especially if you are used to eating a typical American diet. It will be worth it, since eating well will help you recover faster from your workouts, along with other benefits. 9 hours ago, schplurg said: I want a strong core so my spine isn't doing all the work. Planks is an amazing exercise for both core strength and endurance. Start with 10-30 second plank holds for 2-4 sets, and build up to doing 4 sets of 2 minute planks. You will have a good amount of both core strength and endurance once you can easily do 4 sets of 2 minute planks. Once this becomes easy you can start doing more difficult plank variations if you feel comfortable enough. Losing weight will help your back as well, which is another good reason to lose excess weight by eating a healthy diet. Quote
Super User soflabasser Posted June 12, 2022 Super User Posted June 12, 2022 9 hours ago, schplurg said: Hiking is cool because it can be fun and beautiful, and you can't just get off the machine and sit on the couch. If you're 2 miles out, you're hiking back 2 miles whether you like it or not. I doubt I could use a machine indoors consistently. Doing Cardiovascular exercise in the outdoors is by far more fun than on a treadmill or other machine. That is why bank fishing is so fun and good for you, since you get a good workout, spend time in the outdoors, and catch some nice fish as a bonus. 9 hours ago, schplurg said: I told everyone I know about my new love for hiking and getting in shape, one reason was in case I wanted to quit...everyone would know! Â You should be working out for yourself, and nobody else. Do it to make yourself happy, if people help you thank them, if people hate ignore them. The satisfaction you gain from achieving your fitness goals will be worth more than anyone's opinion. This is how I view my workouts, and I have been working out longer than many members here have been alive. I still look toward to every workout just like I did when I was in school, it is something that I am very fond of and a big part of my life. I hope your workouts bring you much joy and that you reach all the fitness goals you have. 1 Quote
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