Best 3000 size spinning reel for $100 or less?

[Chet C]

Daiwa Legalis

[ska4fun]

Ryobi Zauber or Zauber pro. Same reel as the Stella 2008.

[garroyo130]

47 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

Ryobi Zauber or Zauber pro. Same reel as the Stella 2008.

 

Hadn't heard of these but they look good on paper. A worm gear at the $100 price point is great. These don't appear to have Stella sealing and the anti reverse is the older white cage style but for freshwater it should make no difference.

[Blaine Donders]

Johnny Morris Signature. It’s a Daiwa.

[roadwarrior]

52 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

Same reel as the Stella 2008.

 

 

 

                                                                       

[ska4fun]

31 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

 

Hadn't heard of these but they look good on paper. A worm gear at the $100 price point is great. These don't appear to have Stella sealing and the anti reverse is the older white cage style but for freshwater it should make no difference.

Actually one of the most famous Brazlian ocean charter used them. Cap. Tuba. Very resilient reels, for the price. I prefer the white cage AR clutch than the cheap plasitc ones Shimano started using since 2019.

[garroyo130]

If you're referring to this Shimano AR, I'll agree to disagree. 

 

[ska4fun]

4 hours ago, garroyo130 said:

If you're referring to this Shimano AR, I'll agree to disagree. 

 

 

It's funny you disagree with me using Alan Hawk picture since he was the first one to denounce the downgrade in the AR clutch, in the 2019 Stella. This isn't an AR clutch on par with the Stella name. 

[garroyo130]

34 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

It's funny you disagree with me using Alan Hawk picture since he was the first one to denounce the downgrade in the AR clutch, in the 2019 Stella. This isn't an AR clutch on par with the Stella name. 

 

I don't come to this forum to "win", everyone's got an opinion. I appreciate you sharing yours. 

[ike8120]

Kastking Sharky lll

[ska4fun]

32 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

 

I don't come to this forum to "win", everyone's got an opinion. I appreciate you sharing yours. 

 

It's funny because you disagree with me using data from someone who agree with me. Just it. 

[garroyo130]

35 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

using data from someone who agree with me

 

I don't think he agree with you doe

 

Inside the clutch each brake cylinder has its own wire spring that keeps it in constant contact with the sleeve for instant braking, and to self adjust for wear. It's a superb design that works with complete reliability and compensates for internal wear and thermal changes, and since it was one day good enough for the Stella it certainly is more than enough for the Spheros. Another component that is shared with the Saragosa SW.
Source: 
https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/spsw.html

 

The great majority of the anti-reverse clutches in spinning reels have the generic design where plastic V springs are moulded into the cage, and those activate the brake cylinders. Those plastic springs have different life spans depending on the quality of the clutch, but ultimately they lose their elasticity and become permanently set, causing slippage and eventual failure.
Source:
https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/bg16.html 

 

Ryobi Zauber AR with generic design plastic V springs

[ska4fun]

3 hours ago, garroyo130 said:

 

I don't think he agree with you doe

 

Inside the clutch each brake cylinder has its own wire spring that keeps it in constant contact with the sleeve for instant braking, and to self adjust for wear. It's a superb design that works with complete reliability and compensates for internal wear and thermal changes, and since it was one day good enough for the Stella it certainly is more than enough for the Spheros. Another component that is shared with the Saragosa SW.
Source: 
https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/spsw.html

 

The great majority of the anti-reverse clutches in spinning reels have the generic design where plastic V springs are moulded into the cage, and those activate the brake cylinders. Those plastic springs have different life spans depending on the quality of the clutch, but ultimately they lose their elasticity and become permanently set, causing slippage and eventual failure.
Source:
https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/bg16.html 

 

Ryobi Zauber AR with generic design plastic V springs

 

 

Tricky. Why not post the Stella 2019 review?

 

https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/stl19.html

 

''Now that's a surprise, and not the good kind. The 19' Stella SW comes with an externally mounted, plastic housed anti-reverse clutch. Yep, the design that for the past 18 years has been relegated to lesser Shimano reels from the Twin Power SW all the way down to the $35 Cazna FA.''

 

I'm just emabarassed... I really didn't want to expose you in such manner, but you are the one asking for it.

 

Now, what you have tell me, doe?

 

[garroyo130]

4 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

Now, what you have tell me, doe?

 

If you read the review he is stating it is inferior compared to the previous iteration of Shimano's AR, not to the plastic cage.

 

Old Shimano AR > New Shimano AR > generic plastic cage

 

.. but enough of hijacking Clumsy's thread

[ska4fun]

1 minute ago, garroyo130 said:

 

If you read the review he is stating it is inferior compared to the previous iteration of Shimano's AR, not to the plastic cage.

 

Old Shimano AR > New Shimano AR > generic plastic cage

 

.. but enough of hijacking Clumsy's thread

 

The previous one was welded in the reel frame. Are you really going to insist on this bshit? Really?

[garroyo130]

1 minute ago, ska4fun said:

Are you really going to insist on this bshit? Really?

 

No 

 

7 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

.. but enough of hijacking Clumsy's thread