Square-bill with rattle, or silent?

[DaubsNU1]

Picked up a few KDV 1.5's at Wally world...didn't notice until I got home they were silent square-bills. 

 

When do you use a silent square-bill? 

 

When one with rattles?

[A-Jay]

I usually start out with Silent and then go rattle after to pick up a few extra or perhaps a bigger bite.

Of course the reverse has also worked for me at times.

 

A-Jay

[Chris Catignani]

1 hour ago, A-Jay said:

I usually start out with Silent and then go rattle after to pick up a few extra or perhaps a bigger bite.

Of course the reverse has also worked for me at times.

 

A-Jay

@A-Jay...you got three empty spots in that one box.

[papajoe222]

I go silent under tough conditions and combine them with a slow irratic retrieve. Another instance is under heavy fishing pressure like the last day of a long week-end. 
Super clear water is the norm on my home lake and I always reach for a silent crank first. 

[Bluebasser86]

I like a rattle more in stained to dirty water, or around heavy cover. Silent in clearer water, more open water, and finicky fish. 

 

One of my last tournaments, I caught most of my fish on a KVD 1.5 Hard Knock in the chartreuse/black back in some very dirty water. I tried the silent and regular rattling versions of other baits but that one was the only bait I got bit on. 

[NorthernBasser]

11 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

I like a rattle more in stained to dirty water, or around heavy cover. Silent in clearer water, more open water, and finicky fish. 

 

 

 

This.

 

But that doesn't mean the silent won't work in stained water. I've done well with no rattle in dirty water before. I think us fishermen underestimates a bass' ability to find food in water with zero visibility. They obviously do or they wouldn't be alive. Live bluegill don't make rattling sounds. But they do put off vibration and move water when they swim, just like a silent squarebill would. 

 

But it's a confident thing for me. In stained/muddy water, I'll throw a rattle/hard knock version 95% of the time. 

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On 5/27/2022 at 10:04 PM, DaubsNU1 said:

Picked up a few KDV 1.5's at Wally world...didn't notice until I got home they were silent square-bills. 

 

When do you use a silent square-bill? 

 

When one with rattles?

I use a silent crank when the fish show a preference for them.

I use a crank with rattles when the fish show a preference for them.

Darn, I could have cut and pasted...  

[king fisher]

On 5/27/2022 at 9:15 PM, A-Jay said:

I usually start out with Silent and then go rattle after to pick up a few extra or perhaps a bigger bite.

Of course the reverse has also worked for me at times.

 

A-Jay

Thanks for the morning tackle porn.  Bait Monkey is going crazy.  What are the three secret baits you left out of the bottom right box?

[Finessegenics]

I don't usually think about it. I'll start out with a rattle but when I'm in a popular honey hole or feel like a squarebill should be working but it isn't, I throw a silent one instead. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. 

 

I've seen the difference first hand with a Flicker Shad vs a Shad Rap. Shad Rap is silent, Flicker Shad has a rattle. Shad Rap outfished the Flicker Shad on the same boat. Of course they don't have the same action as they are different baits but there has to be something there. It was mostly walleye though there were some bass mixed in too. My dad whooped my behind that day. 

[A-Jay]

2 hours ago, king fisher said:

Thanks for the morning tackle porn.  Bait Monkey is going crazy.  What are the three secret baits you left out of the bottom right box?

Berkley Fritt side ~

The bait monkey Commands You !

A-Jay

 

[Deleted account]

5 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Rapala Fritt side ~

The bait monkey Commands You !

A-Jay

 

Bait Monkey says get some of the beat up ones in the picture, and the little girl rubber bands belong in the wacky box...

[Bankbeater]

I don't really think about the rattles when choosing a crankbait.  I'm more interested in the water clarity, cover, and the amount of light.

[NorthernBasser]

26 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Rapala Fritt side ~

The bait monkey Commands You !

A-Jay

 

 

*Berkley ?

[A-Jay]

13 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

 

*Berkley ?

Thank you

A-Jay

[NorthernBasser]

18 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Thank you

A-Jay

So many friggin' companies nowadays, it's hard to keep everything straight. 

[Kev-mo]

I honestly haven't found any difference. I mostly fish rivers so that might factor in... however I've caught fish in ultra clear water on rattlers and in chocolate bank full water on silent ones. By caught fish I mean multiple fish through out the day in different locations.

[scaleface]

I like rattling baits on the Mississippi . Usually when fishing lakes I prefer silent baits . 

[Woody B]

What I've found is "most" of the time it doesn't matter.  When it does matter silent is what's needed.   (What I'm saying is most of the the the rattle doesn't hurt anything....but real baitfish don't rattle)

[Mbirdsley]

I honestly just buy it regardless if it rattles or not. I buy square bills and regular cranks based on situations and certain lakes/river systems in mind. I’m more interested in color and what kind of diving/retrieve action that it has.  Same with regular cranks.  If I’m picking a dirty water color I’ll make sure to specifically find one that rattles.

 

I have more regular cranks that rattle than non rattles.  Square bills I have more silent ones. 

[Bankc]

I'd say 50% of the time, it doesn't matter.  Sometimes it does, however.  And sometimes, it matters what kind of sound the rattle makes.  As for when I throw each, well, I just tie one on, and if it doesn't get bit after a while, I change it up.  I let the fish tell me what mood they're in.  

[GetFishorDieTryin]

Locally the silent SBs get bit far more consistently then rattling SBs even in muddy water.