Different Spool Types?

[AJ Hauser]

Hey all - working on cleaning up some of my spinning gear for a stream trip tomorrow if the weather holds here in Illinois. I noticed that on my Abu Garcia Orra, I have two different spool types. One is a shiny metal, the other is a matte black plastic / composite spool. Same size. 

 

Any idea what the uses and differences are between these types of spools? Know of any other spool types that are suited for certain conditions?

 

I'm wondering if maybe the dark composite one prevents straight braid from slipping on the spool if I skip the mono backing - ?

 

I learned that lesson the hard way last year...

 

Thanks much! 

[Deleted account]

No, they are saving money by providing a cheaper 2nd spool, but it's lighter...  

[FrnkNsteen]

2 hours ago, Deleted account said:

No, they are saving money by providing a cheaper 2nd spool, but it's lighter...  

Agreed,... That reel must have been from the good old days when reel companies gave a spare spool with their reels, even if it was a much cheaper version..

 

Most did it. I remember when Daiwa Regals, Pflueger Presidents, and a lot of others all came with them. Keep it as a backup with the same type line on it, or put braid on one and mono on the other to be able to switch easily.

[dodgeguy]

Yeah those days are over.

[AJ Hauser]

Well this took a sad, dark turn quickly... here I thought I was onto something! Thanks for the heads up fellas, much appreciated. 

[Mbirdsley]

On 5/24/2022 at 5:43 PM, FrnkNsteen said:

Agreed,... That reel must have been from the good old days when reel companies gave a spare spool with their reels, even if it was a much cheaper version..

 

Most did it. I remember when Daiwa Regals, Pflueger Presidents, and a lot of others all came with them. Keep it as a backup with the same type line on it, or put braid on one and mono on the other to be able to switch easily.

Okuma did for a while. That was only ten years ago.  I bought a couple of avengers from Walmart and both came with a spare plastic spool 

[AJ Hauser]

I'm so depressed that they don't give out extra spools anymore that I've decided to go fish. 

 

Have a great week, everyone!

[bulldog1935]

We're on the subject of spools, the real difference isn't the cheap plastic giveaways, but quality back-up spools that are designed to achieve perfect line-lay with different lines and capacities. 

Shimano and Daiwa both do this well, though Shimano does it better, offering more choices and making them easier to find. 

This is the same reel, new from the box with a shallow braid spool and, and on the right after a bit of customizing, shown with a deep mono spool. 

 

 

As I said, Shimano makes this easy, identifying spool by PE# (standard in Japan using traditional silk thread diameter) or lb-test fluoro  - on the left is a PE#0.6 spool, on the right is an F-6 spool. 

 

BTW,

To prevent your braid from slipping, tie the basic arbor knot, then stick it down with the thinnest tape you can find - I like the acrylic/PE tape - essentially mylar. 

 

[AJ Hauser]

5 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

We're on the subject of spools, the real difference isn't the cheap plastic giveaways, but quality back-up spools that are designed to achieve perfect line-lay with different lines and capacities. 

 

 

 

Ok so this is awesome... do you find that you have to match the spools with the manufacturer? So the Abu Garcia Orra I mentioned earlier, yesterday I re-spooled but I only wanted about 100 yards of Seaguar Invisx (not cheap) on the spool, so I filled a portion up with some mono, tied a back to back uni knot, and the put fluoro on. A shallower spool could make it really easy for me to swap out different fluoro types for this rod, which MAINLY gets used in creeks. Meaning I don't need to bomb jigs 50 yards per cast. 

 

What are your thoughts on this? I am liking the idea of picking up a few shallow spools so I can just bypass the mono backing and the connection know that can cause issues if the mainline gets low on the spool...

 

Thanks!

 

 

[bulldog1935]

You have to match the spools with the maker and specific frame. 

Shimano gives a specific spool number to match models and especially spool pitch. 

E.g., From Stradic to Stella after 2018 all swap spools in the same frame size. 

Since I'm replying, here are 4000- and 5000-frame spools, made to match PE#2 and PE#1.5

The frame and pitch are Shimano S-28. 

https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/default/language/en/cPath/2174_916_1440/optional-parts/shimano-yumeya/yumeya-custom-spool.html

[AJ Hauser]

Got it - thank you very much!!