clemsondds Posted May 15, 2022 Posted May 15, 2022 I was out fishing yesterday and lost two on crankbaits. I have two middle of the road crankbaits…just curious why people upgrade to ultra high end cranking rods. Do you feel the bite a split second faster? I’m just wondering if anyone who has upgraded has had an increase in landing percentage. I am all about nrx for spinning and bottom contact…but never really understand the need for cranking.. Im sure those fish coming off wasn’t the rods fault…wasn’t trying to imply that. Just got me thinking since i didn’t feel the bite on either of those…so my reaction time wasn’t real good. I would love to learn more (tho make bank account may not ha) Thank you! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 The biggest advantage is being better at "feeling" bottom features. 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 1 minute ago, roadwarrior said: The biggest advantage is being better at "feeling" bottom features. I was confused for a second "Crankbait feeling bottom?" Bouncing a Squarebill or Shad Rap off structure....right... Ignore me. Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 None for bass fishing other the wanting to have matched set if rods. Using diving crank baits a composite rod blank feed back lures motion to indicate when a bass has the lure. Casting ability and line diameter play a bigger roll using diving crank baits imo. Tom 1 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 Yes according to the theory, higher sensitivity will cause you to feel the bite faster and cause you to loose fish. Here’s Rick Clunn explaining the theory. Because a high percentage of anglers will not use a cheap rod even if someone like Rick Clunn says it might help them catch more fish. That’s why rod manufacturers will sell you an expensive rod made of low cost fiberglass. Personally, I try to focus on being familiar with what a strike feels like on the rod I’m using. This requires time on the water. 5 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 Economic activity. 4 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 ...and, IMO, this is what most people who are good at catching fish do, even without focusing. 4 Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 The biggest benefit of high end cranking rods is their ability to make it easier for you to walk, and more comfortable for you to sit, by making your wallet much lighter and thinner. ? 4 6 Quote
clemsondds Posted May 15, 2022 Author Posted May 15, 2022 Would love to hear from those that have an nrx, cobquest, steez cranking rod…what are your thoughts? Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 1 hour ago, PhishLI said: ...and, IMO, this is what most people who are good at catching fish do, even without focusing. Yup. 1 Quote
clemsondds Posted May 15, 2022 Author Posted May 15, 2022 Great explanation by Clunn! Appreciate sharing that video! would still love to hear from some high end rod owners. I know there are a lot of ppl who prefer not using glass rods, and so curious about the mbr line of G loomis and the megabass crank rods…how do those differ…I know great fishermen who use these…so it can’t be all hype. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 Maybe I missed something but I don't think the NRX or Conquest rods were designed for crankbaits. You could use them though but none of them are even close to what I look for in a crankbait rod. As far as the above statement goes, I totally agree. I had a G. Loomis GLX crankbait rod several years ago and sold it. It was just too sensitive for the intended purpose. I found myself missing fish and getting overwhelmed with every small vibration the rod had. For me the new IMX pro and the St. Croix Legend Glass are fantastic rods for cranks and have just the right amount of sensitivity. Quote
padon Posted May 15, 2022 Posted May 15, 2022 exactly. when you are extremely familiar with your set up and know it intimately its more sensitive to you than anyone else. 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 I have used St Croix legend elites for cranking & treble hook baits. The higher end blanks have an advantage by being lighter & more sensitive and I enjoy using them. I'm talking about MH power moderate action rods. I especially like using them for jerk baits because they are crisp to the feel as opposed to feeling mushy like fiberglass. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted May 15, 2022 Super User Posted May 15, 2022 Oddly, after what I said I above, I would agree with this as well. I have two Legend Elites and one of them is the 6'8'' Med. Fast. It seems to have a softer tip and is great for jerkbaits and some square bills. To me, it's not close to the sensitivity of the NRX but still a fine rod. I use it as my primary T-rigged senko rod. I have not fished one of Mod-fast Elite rods. You, as far as I remember, are the first to mention them and I have never seen one on a shelf.... So now I am intrigued. I have been looking for a MH to H powered crankbait rod to fish deeper diving cranks but it has not been something that has been a priority. I just figure I would pick up a St. Legend Glass next year when I needed to scratch the itch for a new setup. I will keep the Elite in mind. 1 Quote
TNBankFishing Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 I had a chance to fish the X mhmf and it was unique to say the least. Smooth bend but crisp return. Reminded me a bit of my Megabass Otomat. The closest you might be able to sample and with a good discount is the Daiwa 7’4” BLX Limber Graphite. It’s my primary medium and deep crank stick and I absolutely love it. I fish from a yak and it’s the only rod I can throw 18+ cranks on that doesn’t murder my arm and is still sensitive enough. Also a great jackhammer/big spinnerbait rod. Quote
Super User ATA Posted May 16, 2022 Super User Posted May 16, 2022 We dont have conquest cranking rod, Plus it is overkill if we had one, I use Shimano SLX cranking and paid $79 for it and thats fits cranking. 1 Quote
clemsondds Posted May 16, 2022 Author Posted May 16, 2022 Would love to hear from those who have fished nrx, megabass, steez cranking rods...just would like to hear your thoughts. Anyone? Thanks Quote
TNBankFishing Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 There are no NRX, or Steez cranking rods. Megabass had one line which has been discontinued, and a few specialized P5s. Quote
SproDD79 Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 I had a GLX 957 CBR which I slammed in a car door, I loved that rod. I had it paired with a Chronarch 201E5, it was a wonderful cranking set up for DD22s and anything around 1oz , light as a feather, ultra sensitive, at first I was setting the hook on everything I came in contact with, I eventually adapted and learned to read the rod and was able to detect the most subtle strikes. When I destroyed it loomis was no longer making the GLX crankbait series. Quote
clemsondds Posted May 16, 2022 Author Posted May 16, 2022 You are right. I was thinking the mbr line which I know some run crankbaits on them, but I was also thinking IMX pro cbr line. And there are several megabass crankbait rods (blade, zcrank, flatside special...) I guess I was just wondering how the traditional glass rods like st croix legend glass compare with other high end rods of gloomis and megabass. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted May 16, 2022 Super User Posted May 16, 2022 The more money you spend on a rod, the better fisherman you will be. Even a Monkey knows that. 7 Quote
clemsondds Posted May 16, 2022 Author Posted May 16, 2022 Yeh a little surprised they stopped that line. I i have several megabass rods and have been really impressed. The more I think about it the more I think I just don't like the thickness and weight of the glass rods. So that's why I'm thinking maybe a hybrid composite rod might work better for me. I just watched a video of a very successful pro who uses a megabass jerkbait special for his squarebill rod...lol...that doesn't follow the manual too well ha Quote
Lead Head Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 In my experience, even the cheapest graphite rods give feedback equal to, or better than glass. They are also usually much lighter. There is a lot of personal preference involved in cranking. I prefer a moderate-fast over a true moderate, and graphite over glass. My favorite cranking rods are built on Bushido cranking blanks. I know this doesn't really answer your question, sorry about that. Looks like you have 2 options... 1: admit you won't be happy until you try a "high end" cranking rod, and get one to try (bait monkey approves of this decision). 2: stomp out your curiosity and force yourself to believe that "high end" rods give no real advantage over "mid-grade" rods (I wish you luck in the epic battle with the bait monkey here). Full disclosure, I haven't actually used what you would probably call a high end cranking rod. I have used enough different rods and blanks to know what I want out of a cranking rod. Quote
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