Lund pro v bass performance

[Fishin Dad]

Hey All,

 

Finally had the weather cooperates and got some time out with my new boat.  I put a Mercury 200 Pro XS on the 1875 pro v.  I am only getting about 48 mph and 5000 rpm.  It rips out of the hole though.  I know that is not what I expected or what I have heard.  It has a Tempest 19P prop.  The motor is on the middle hole with two more on each side.  
 

Suggestions?   
 

Thanks,

 

Fishingdad

[Reel]

Make sure you are getting 100 % throttle. ( Dealer and computer) .  I have a similar set-up ( not the same boat but aluminium and 18 1/2 feet V bottom ) and exactly the same motor and prop and I'm getting 5700 rpm and 56 mph GPS speed.  Motor is in same hole.  I've got a Verado lower end with a 1,75 ratio.  Also check to see if sonar transducers are in the right spot ( not to low).

 

Be patient also.  It takes a while to break in a four stroke motor.

[Deleted account]

1 hour ago, Reel said:

Be patient also.  It takes a while to break in a four stroke motor.

 

I doubt it's a break in thing, but make sure you are doing it by manufacturer's instructions, or you can void your warranty.

Most 4 strokes should be set up to WOT at 5500-6000 rmps with a light load and (in a boat that size) 1 passenger. Assuming there is no issue with the actual throttle set up, which is unlikely, the motor height and prop size and pitch is where the tuning gets done. Is this a new boat? 

[Reel]

Following the manufacturer's instructions for break-in is capital. A variation of RPM during the first 10 to 20 hours is what I use.  The first 3 hours are the most important, but after breaking in 3 four strokes, it takes much more time than for 2 strokes and performance gets better with time.  

 

Still your results are not what I would expect from your boat.

[A-Jay]

5000 rpm seems low for WOT on that rig.

May be an internal digital adjustment needed to get to 5500 - 5800.

With the 2016 hull, 200 Pro XS and a 21 inch Tempest Plus WOT for me is right at 5500-5600.

Gets me 53-55 mph with flat conditions & a full load.

The V-8 does prefer Cooler air temps for max performance.

They shipped my rigged initially with a 23 inch prop which was too much.

Went to the 21 and never looked back.

No experience with the 19 but based on my experience you should be getting more RPMS. 

Bet it's a simple fix, you'll get it ironed out.

It's part of the fun

Good Luck

 

OK enough of that - what about the rest of that rig ?

Think you have enough storage ?

A-Jay

[Fishin Dad]

19 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

5000 rpm seems low for WOT on that rig.

May be an internal digital adjustment needed to get to 5500 - 5800.

With the 2016 hull, 200 Pro XS and a 21 inch Tempest Plus WOT for me is right at 5500-5600.

Get me 53-55 mph with flat conditions & a full load.

The V-8 does prefer Cooler air temps for max performance.

They shipped my rigged initially with a 23 inch prop which was too much.

Went to the 21 and never looked back.

No experience with the 19 but based on my experience you should be getting more RPMS. 

Bet it's a simple fix, you'll get it ironed out.

It's part of the fun

Good Luck

 

OK enough of that - what about the rest of that rig ?

Think you have enough storage ?

A-Jay

Love the boat.  The storage is out of control.   I keep telling myself to stop putting stuff in the boat.  
I really thought I should get more rpm and speed out of this boat, especially with only a 19.  I will have to talk to my dealer and see what we can do.  
Thanks

1 hour ago, Deleted account said:

 

I doubt it's a break in thing, but make sure you are doing it by manufacturer's instructions, or you can void your warranty.

Most 4 strokes should be set up to WOT at 5500-6000 rmps with a light load and (in a boat that size) 1 passenger. Assuming there is no issue with the actual throttle set up, which is unlikely, the motor height and prop size and pitch is where the tuning gets done. Is this a new boat? 

Yeah, my guess is motor height as well.  I would have assumed way more rpm with only a 19 pitch prop.  I don’t think I dare go lower in pitch.  This is a new boat.  I did the break in according to instructions.  Varied my speed and hit full throttle for 1 minute every 10 minutes.  Did this for 2 hours.  No full throttle for more than 5 minutes for the next 8 hours.  Hopefully. I get something figured out. 

3 hours ago, Reel said:

Make sure you are getting 100 % throttle. ( Dealer and computer) .  I have a similar set-up ( not the same boat but aluminium and 18 1/2 feet V bottom ) and exactly the same motor and prop and I'm getting 5700 rpm and 56 mph GPS speed.  Motor is in same hole.  I've got a Verado lower end with a 1,75 ratio.  Also check to see if sonar transducers are in the right spot ( not to low).

 

Be patient also.  It takes a while to break in a four stroke motor.

The low rpm is my question.  I will have them check for full throttle.   I am getting some spray from the right side of the motor ( where the transducers are).   I will probably have them moved up a little.  
Thanks

[A-Jay]

50 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said:

  I am getting some spray from the right side of the motor ( where the transducers are).   I will probably have them moved up a little.  
Thanks

I had that once I went to the GEN3's

Added a Boat Zone transducer Board Spray Shield  and it's a none issue now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RP33R8K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc= 

Admittedly over priced but it's not something I can fabricate in the hobby shop and the spray back there gets old fast.

A-Jay

[Fishin Dad]

4 hours ago, A-Jay said:

I had that once I went to the GEN3's

Added a Boat Zone transducer Board Spray Shield  and it's a none issue now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RP33R8K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc= 

Admittedly over priced but it's not something I can fabricate in the hobby shop and the spray back there gets old fast.

A-Jay

Interesting.  Thanks AJ

[Junger]

For a data point, I get 6100 rpms with my PVB 1875XS with a 200 Merc v6, 19p Solas.

 

I read somewhere that if you have DTS controls, it should to be tuned by the dealer, it doesn't automatically default to 100% throttle.

[blackrain]

Agree with others that 5000 rpm is way low. 

[Fishin Dad]

7 hours ago, Junger said:

For a data point, I get 6100 rpms with my PVB 1875XS with a 200 Merc v6, 19p Solas.

 

I read somewhere that if you have DTS controls, it should to be tuned by the dealer, it doesn't automatically default to 100% throttle.

Thanks Junger.   That makes sense.  I had read performance reviews and my tourney partner had a pro v with a 200 Verado and I knew my performance wasn’t up to par.   I have to contact my dealer.   Hopefully we can get it figured out.   I spent too much to not have it perform like it should.  

[Big Rick]

2 hours ago, Fishin Dad said:

I spent too much to not have it perform like it should.  

Nothing more aggravating than to have a level of expectation out of a superior piece of equipment and it not live up to those expectations. Boats are a multi-faceted equation that often takes a second or even third try to get it dialed in. But, man once you do the smiles are permanent. 

 

You'll get it figured out. Your equipment is too good not to function as it should.  

[WRB]

On 5/14/2022 at 8:37 PM, Fishin Dad said:

Hey All,

 

Finally had the weather cooperates and got some time out with my new boat.  I put a Mercury 200 Pro XS on the 1875 pro v.  I am only getting about 48 mph and 5000 rpm.  It rips out of the hole though.  I know that is not what I expected or what I have heard.  It has a Tempest 19P prop.  The motor is on the middle hole with two more on each side.  
 

Suggestions?   
 

Thanks,

 

Fishingdad

Middle hole....Did you mount the OB or dealer Installed?

Not familiar with your hull buy AJay is. 19 P for 200 hp is too low imo. Too much wet hull surface creates a lot of drag to overcome. Take it back to the dealer to check out the set up.

Tom

[Fishin Dad]

1 hour ago, Big Rick said:

Nothing more aggravating than to have a level of expectation out of a superior piece of equipment and it not live up to those expectations. Boats are a multi-faceted equation that often takes a second or even third try to get it dialed in. But, man once you do the smiles are permanent. 

 

You'll get it figured out. Your equipment is too good not to function as it should.  

I agree.  Thanks Big Rick.   I hope we get it all figured out.  I think it will turn out great.  

47 minutes ago, WRB said:

Middle hole....Did you mount you mount the OB or dealer Installed?

Not familiar with your hull buy AJay is. 19 P for 200 hp is too low imo. Too much wet hull surface creates a lot of drag to overcome. Take it back to the dealer to check out the set up.

Tom

I was wondering that too. AJ said he is running a 21.  The dealer is going to get some more time with my new friend!

[A-Jay]

@Fishin Dad

The dealers set up makes sense sort of - 

Use a smaller screw and turn the motor 'down' so as not to over rev it.

If they are going to upgrade the prop to a 21 they WILL NEED to open that motor up.

Leaving it as is with the 21 prop you'll get even less rpms and of course speed.

Recommend making them run it to get it right before you get it back.

A-Jay

 

[uno]

My Pro V bass with 200 pro xs came with a tempest 21p, motor mounted in the middle hole. Runs 57ish at around 5700 rpm. I'd rather have 54 with twin talons like A-Jay. I'm guessing your throttle isn't calibrated to give full throttle. No way you have 9 mph in drag. Would expect RPMs closer to 6000 with the 19p prop.

[Fishin Dad]

1 hour ago, A-Jay said:

@Fishin Dad

The dealers set up makes sense sort of - 

Use a smaller screw and turn the motor 'down' so as not to over rev it.

If they are going to upgrade the prop to a 21 they WILL NEED to open that motor up.

Leaving it as is with the 21 prop you'll get even less rpms and of course speed.

Recommend making them run it to get it right before you get it back.

A-Jay

 

 

5 minutes ago, uno said:

My Pro V bass with 200 pro xs came with a tempest 21p, motor mounted in the middle hole. Runs 57ish at around 5700 rpm. I'd rather have 54 with twin talons like A-Jay. I'm guessing your throttle isn't calibrated to give full throttle. No way you have 9 mph in drag. Would expect RPMs closer to 6000 with the 19p prop.

That is what I thought Fellas.  I have twin talons and thought that would give some drag, but not that bad.  I also thought I would get about 6000 with the 19 on it.  I really like the boat, but need it to perform like it should.  Hopefully my dealer can get it figured out soon.  Thanks for the info.   

 

I assume you all love your Lund Pro V's!?!?

[uno]

Yep, best boat ever. I can fish bass, walleye, musky, crappie, big water or small water. Plenty of room to fish with my kids, and actually fishes 3 adults fine. Merc V8 is magical compared to the suzuki 140 my last boat had. You can never have too much storage, but I haven't managed to fill it all yet. 

[Fishin Dad]

On 5/16/2022 at 8:51 PM, uno said:

Yep, best boat ever. I can fish bass, walleye, musky, crappie, big water or small water. Plenty of room to fish with my kids, and actually fishes 3 adults fine. Merc V8 is magical compared to the suzuki 140 my last boat had. You can never have too much storage, but I haven't managed to fill it all yet. 

Uno, that is funny.  My last boat had a Suzuki 140 as well!!  I hope I like the Merc V8 once it gets tuned in.  I really like the boat so far.  My tourney partner bought one a couple years ago when I said I wanted one.  It was a great way for me to try before I buy!!