Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 11, 2022 Global Moderator Posted May 11, 2022 Everyone has their own thoughts about what hook manufacturer, size and style they like for what they’re doin. For me there is no one size fits all. I tend to use a larger sized hook than most on all plastics. Case in point… A majority of folks on here use a 3/0 for a Senko, others may use a 4/0 for punching etc. Point is if you’re gonna err on what size hook to use, for me larger is always better. Mike 9 minutes ago, cyclops2 said: As usual. I am learning that different WEEDY waters ........CAN REQUIRE .... a different technique. I tried those big fat worms a couple of times. The bass was was very nice !! He grabbed....I PULLED it out of his mouth......He REGRABBED it again. After the 3 rd or 5 th time I just decided to reel the worm in. WITH THE bass still attacking. I look down as he comes into sight. He has the whole midddle of a 8" ? Saltwater Worm in his big wide mouth. We played a back & forth tug of war for a while I finally realized I was just burning up his energy reserves. And putting him at risk to chase his next real meal. Very nice bass. My problem was TOO SMALL of a hook for that thick worm. Even in open waters. Oh well 2 Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 11, 2022 Author Posted May 11, 2022 I am basically a clear water SMALL fish person. You are right about scaling up the hook size in a ......HARD PLASTIC worm or any other shaped lure. I am only guessing but I would not use a Circle hook in plastic with out it having a gap 3 or 4 X the rubber diameter. I always laughed at the huge hook gaps of some plastic lures.. I might join you big lure guys. & your much bigger hook gaps. My # 6 hooks have no value in plastic. I use them perfectly with strips of perch & get solid hook sets just in side of the mouth. Even If i pull a little too soon. Let line go slack. And bass or any Jumbo Perch sucks it completely in. For a solid roof of the mouth hook set. I need another 10 years on this forum to get better at. Man over fish !! 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted May 11, 2022 Global Moderator Posted May 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, cyclops2 said: I am basically a clear water SMALL fish person. You are right about scaling up the hook size in a ......HARD PLASTIC worm or any other shaped lure. I am only guessing but I would not use a Circle hook in plastic with out it having a gap 3 or 4 X the rubber diameter. I always laughed at the huge hook gaps of some plastic lures.. I might join you big lure guys. & your much bigger hook gaps. My # 6 hooks have no value in plastic. I use them perfectly with strips of perch & get solid hook sets just in side of the mouth. Even If i pull a little too soon. Let line go slack. And bass or any Jumbo Perch sucks it completely in. For a solid roof of the mouth hook set. I need another 10 years on this forum to get better at. Man over fish !! Nah, You’ll get it just use the best equipment you can afford and take the time to learn with it. Mike 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 11, 2022 Super User Posted May 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Mike L said: Nah, You’ll get it just use the best equipment you can afford and take the time to learn with it. Mike @cyclops2 Everyone has their own personal repertoire of confusion! @Mike L and I think a lot along the same lines but each us adds a personal touch. Mike likes throwing Zoom's Magnum Ultravibe Speed Worm, I throw the smaller Speed Worm. We both use 1/8 th weight & both swim it a lot. Watching Mike's abilities over the years I added the Magnum Worm to my repertoire. The hook & line are your connection to the bass. Kinda important ? 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted May 12, 2022 Super User Posted May 12, 2022 You learn over time what to do. You'll do stuff wrong and lose fish over it. But you'll learn from those mistakes, and then make all new ones. Eventually, you've made enough mistakes that you learned enough to not make too many. But you'll never stop making mistakes, or learning. What you'll find is that different types of hooks, lures, rods, lines, etc. require different types of hooksets. You can read and hear about it from others, but there's no teacher like experience. So if it's working for you, then you're doing it right. If it's not, then you need to adjust. Quote
Super User Scott F Posted May 12, 2022 Super User Posted May 12, 2022 I’m one who uses nothing but braided line with no leaders and never “rip lips” on my hook sets or when reeling in a fish. Never saw a need to use moderate rods even with crank baits. I don’t lock down my drag, I let the drag do its job. I’m also not a slop fisherman. I’m mostly open water, spinning gear kinda guy. I just don’t have any problems pulling lures out of a fishes mouth. I guess years of experience just helps knowing how hard I can pull back without losing a fish 1 Quote
hunterPRO1 Posted May 13, 2022 Posted May 13, 2022 my great grandad always kept a net with him when bluegill fishing, to scoop up dying fish whose lips he had ripped off. this was a common occurrence. Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 I can tell all that I was suddenly loosing lots of fish at the start of a hook up. Mr Perfect had lost it big time. I check the Rapala single treble. 2 points bent badly. rock snags. pliers & all is well. Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 13, 2022 Super User Posted May 13, 2022 You know when you hook set may be a little to hard when the bass flies passed you over your head! Tom 1 2 Quote
cyclops2 Posted May 13, 2022 Author Posted May 13, 2022 I never do that when catching baitfish. Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 14, 2022 Super User Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, WRB said: You know when you hook set may be a little to hard when the bass flies passed you over your head! Tom Nope! Hookset is fine...bass to small! 1 1 1 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted May 14, 2022 Super User Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, Catt said: Nope! Hookset is fine...bass to small! Had this happen a few times today. Exactly what I was thinking in my mind. I lost a couple because of it but didn’t even care. Then I catch a little bigger one and I’m glad I thwacked her ?. 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 14, 2022 Super User Posted May 14, 2022 Every bass is different, every bite is different, every fight is different..every hookset is the same. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 14, 2022 Super User Posted May 14, 2022 Sometimes we can’t catch up with the bass to get a good hook set. Tom Quote
lynxcat Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 I’m a really big guy and have been lifting weights a ton over the last year…strongest I’ve been in my life. With that said, I really try to avoid laying into the hook set as I’ve popped FC on some big fish. I generally like to do more of a sweeping set because a snap greatly increases the likelihood I break off. Quote
NoShoes Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 Big game mono with properly set drag shouldn’t break off on any hook set 2 Quote
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