Do people really YANK the hook so hard that it is ripping a gash and pulling out ?

[cyclops2]

 

  Then they post that it is the rods fault.  Then ask what rod  should they buy ?

 

  I just keep the line tight enough not to cause the drag to slip. 

 

  

[LrgmouthShad]

Uh yep I yank pretty hard. I don’t think it is causing me to lose fish. But I use stretchy monofilament most of the time, so there’s some counterbalance. 

[gim]

When I first started using a ned rig, I straightened a few of the original z-man mushroom head jigs.  They were the flimsy light wire style ones and I had my drag set a little too tight.  It costed me a couple of big fish.  Its also possible I may have been simply setting the hook a little too hard at the time.

 

I fixed that problem with a more durable heavy-duty mushroom head jig and less drag.  As for ripping the hook out of a fish with such a large hookset, can't say that I've done it.  But then again I don't feel the need to yank so hard that it would physically even be possible either lol.  I see bass anglers really setting the hook hard when they're using jigs though.  Its like some of them are shark fishing.

[LrgmouthShad]

If anything, I miss fish either because I yank too soon or because I didn’t set the hook properly. If I yank too soon, it can lead to a slack-lined hook set. If I feel solid pressure and then yank the hook, I usually do fine. Reeling down helps.

 

The roof of a bass’s mouth seems pretty tough

[cheezyridr]

when you lose a monster bass, you'll wish you swung for the fences, used a better hook, tied a better knot, fished better line, etc.  eliminate the hazards you are able to before they happen

[TnRiver46]

I’ve even yanked the hook hard enough to pull it out of human flesh 

[WRB]

The old cross their eyes hook set doesn’t apply a lot of force to the hook point when the lure is more then 20 yards away from you.

With today’s modern very sharp hooks penetrating the point past the bard doesn’t required a lot of force and that is all that is needed. Moving some lures the bass has engulfed requires pulling force. My technique is the reel set with firm rod sweep, have been very successful using this technique for decades.

Mono doesn’t stretch from hook sets and you should set your drag 1/3rd the mono/FC  line strength. If you want for drag pressure simple use your thumb on the spool.

Tom

[Jigfishn10]

There are those days when I casually swing and miss then on the next one I have to make sure I swuig hard enough. 

 

Just embarrassing when you swing hard enough and a small fish comes flying out of the water at your head. 

Sadly, yes, that's also happened more often than not. 

[cyclops2]

 On still baits and trolling I do a quick reel up slack with rod pointed to line. Then  Continue the reeling as I do WRB rod sweep till agood bend is held. My barbless hooks go in very easily. I am sport fishing.  Even when catching for a friend. I do not get upset. I smile and tell the fish.  " way to do it.  "

[Bird]

There was a learning curve when I switched to braid years ago.

Gone are the days of back breaking, boat rocking hook sets.

[LrgmouthShad]

1 minute ago, Bird said:

Gone are the days of back breaking, boat rocking hook sets

Yeah but where’s the fun in that? ?. Lol. By the way, I went in reverse. Started with braid and changed to mono. 

[Bird]

On moving baits like Spinnerbaits and swim Jigs, there isn't a hook set...... just bend the rod.

[LrgmouthShad]

5 minutes ago, Bird said:

On moving baits like Spinnerbaits and swim Jigs, there isn't a hook set...... just bend the rod.

Sure, I think that works and so does other methods of setting the hook. @WRB’s method of hook setting seems great and I would be wise to listen to him. I’m just saying… the objective regardless seem to be to get slack out of the line and set the hook with decently enough pressure. But slack is the real enemy, IMO. That is where I can mess up. I swing hard in case I fall short of the pressure I need, but my efforts are in vain if there is slack. I use Trilene Big Game because there is only one thing I have to do right with that line: set the dang hook and keep pressure.

[Darth-Baiter]

Depends.  On drop shots it’s a gentle hook set.  My hooks are needle like.  
 

‘’punching it like I’m angry at the fish.  Everything else is somewhere in between.

[cyclops2]

With about 100' of 4 # test line out & trolling a lure.  I have looked around for a while & not seen the fish hit & hook itself. Barbless & barbed.

 

Oh well. Geezeritis strikes again. 

[Basser2021]

10 hours ago, gimruis said:

When I first started using a ned rig, I straightened a few of the original z-man mushroom head jigs.  They were the flimsy light wire style ones and I had my drag set a little too tight.  It costed me a couple of big fish.  Its also possible I may have been simply setting the hook a little too hard at the time.

 

 

I did the exact same thing a couple times. Now I don't even set the hook I just reel and keep pressure.

[TriStateBassin106]

I've lost too many fish setting the hook like a wimp, I lost a 4 to 5lber last summer on a black powerworm because I didn't add enough power when setting that ****... I still think about that fish every now and then. 

8 minutes ago, Basser2021 said:

I did the exact same thing a couple times. Now I don't even set the hook I just reel and keep pressure.

 

10 hours ago, gimruis said:

When I first started using a ned rig, I straightened a few of the original z-man mushroom head jigs.  They were the flimsy light wire style ones and I had my drag set a little too tight.  It costed me a couple of big fish.  Its also possible I may have been simply setting the hook a little too hard at the time.

 

I fixed that problem with a more durable heavy-duty mushroom head jig and less drag.  As for ripping the hook out of a fish with such a large hookset, can't say that I've done it.  But then again I don't feel the need to yank so hard that it would physically even be possible either lol.  I see bass anglers really setting the hook hard when they're using jigs though.  Its like some of them are shark fishing.

Yeah with the ned rig it's all about reeling when you feel the bite/pressure, I had a few zman heads get slightly bent because I did a slight hookset when I felt a bite because I'm usually switching from a bottom bait like a texas rig or jig when I use the ned rig, It takes practice. Drag is also very important I agree! 

[TnRiver46]

I like watching Dustin Connell set the hook with a swim jig on YouTube , he absolutely cracks it like a whip. It even makes a crazy snap sound 

[GreenPig]

With a single hook bait and big swimbait I'll swing on them with a bit of force to drive the hook. With standard treble hook baits I just reel up and rotate to load the rod.

[cheezyridr]

15 hours ago, WRB said:

The old cross their eyes hook set doesn’t apply a lot of force to the hook point when the lure is more then 20 yards away from you.

With today’s modern very sharp hooks penetrating the point past the bard...

15 hours ago, WRB said:

Mono doesn’t stretch from hook sets 

Tom

 

i'm not buying that for one second.

 

15 hours ago, Bird said:

There was a learning curve when I switched to braid years ago.

Gone are the days of back breaking, boat rocking hook sets.

 

certainly braid has far less stretch than mono.  it's half the reason to use it

 

14 hours ago, Bird said:

On moving baits like Spinnerbaits and swim Jigs, there isn't a hook set...... just bend the rod.

 

  i fish a spinnerbait 75% of the time i'm out.  i set the hook and if it's big, i give an extra yank to be sure the point goes all the way through

 

14 hours ago, LrgmouthShad said:

slack is the real enemy, IMO.

 

that's definitely true, and sometimes, it's very hard to avoid a moment of slack.  that's what makes a good hookset so important.

 

5 hours ago, Basser2021 said:

I did the exact same thing a couple times. Now I don't even set the hook I just reel and keep pressure.

go watch any youtube video by 618 fishing.   every single time he gets a fish, he's saying "ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod don't come off don't come off don't come off" it's because his hookset game is weak. he loses ALOT of fish. most times,  he's using a circle hook, and they say you aren't supposed to set the hook with those.  i watch him and it looks to my eye that if he'd just up his hookset game he'd lose fewer fish

[Catt]

Control! ?

 

Hook sets ain't just about driving the hook point home. It should be about gaining control of the fish. 

 

I see guys set hook with plenty of authority & then hesitate giving the bass control.

 

My mindset is to turn the fish's head & get it coming towards me all in one motion.

[T-Billy]

16 hours ago, Jigfishn10 said:

Just embarrassing when you swing hard enough and a small fish comes flying out of the water at your head. 

Laying off the hookset is a good way to lose a biggun in heavy cover. Gotta get em coming at ya on the hookset. I hit em all hard, and throw lot's of dinks over the boat. Doesn't seem to hurt em any.

[Mike L]

 

1 hour ago, Catt said:

Control! ?

 

It should be about gaining control of the fish. 

 

My mindset is to turn the fish's head & get it coming towards me all in one motion.

 

1 hour ago, T-Billy said:

Laying off the hookset is a good way to lose a biggun in heavy cover. 

Ditto and Ditto Again!!

 

Do it however you like, but if the goal is to land the fish you gotta get it’s head up and moving towards you, preferably in one fluid motion exactly as @Catt said. 

If you lay off as @T-Billy mentioned you can get your heart broke. 
 

Losing a fish on the hook set is either because of using the wrong equipment for conditions, or an angler saw a video or read a book.  

In my opinion, You do what you’re there to do…..Hit her hard, turn her head and bring her up and out. 
 

 

 

 

 

Mike

 

 

[Functional]

my brother in law was forced to go to baitcasters because he kept breaking spinning reels from his hard hooksets. He learned it from his father who set the hook so hard one time he fell back and tripped over the row boat seat and ended up looking under the seat with his feet wiggling in the air.

 

 

....he did land the fish though. 

[cyclops2]

As usual. I am learning that different WEEDY waters ........CAN  REQUIRE .... a different technique.  I tried those big fat worms a couple of times. The bass was  was very nice !!  He grabbed....I PULLED it out of his mouth......He REGRABBED it again.   After the 3 rd or 5 th time I just decided to reel the worm in.  WITH THE bass still attacking. I look down as he comes into sight. He has the whole midddle of a 8" ?  Saltwater Worm in his big wide mouth.  We played a back & forth tug of war for a while I finally realized I was just burning up his energy reserves. And putting him at risk to chase his next real meal.  Very nice bass.

 

My problem was TOO SMALL of a hook for that thick worm. Even in open waters.

 

Oh well