Generational fishing

[slonezp]

6 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I heard that! Cleaning panfish is for the birds, makes you want to just eat them whole like a blue heron. I don’t own an electric knife but I have used them, definitely helpful for speed on big fish. But then again I’ve seen guides in salt water from Alaska to FLA clean massive fish with a regular knife, looked like it should have required a chainsaw 

I did a salmon charter out of Sturgeon Bay a number of years ago. 3 man limit of 15 fish between 10-15 lbs. The first mate had the fish filleted and packed by the time we made it back in to the dock. 

[Chris Catignani]

One thing you might consider is dropping a few crappie attractors about 10 - 15 yards from your spot.

 

Here is something else to think about too...If you take a fish thats about to spawn away from its habitat, you have basically delayed that spawn. The fish will spend anywhere from a week to three weeks recovering where its was released. A single crappie can lay 20 - 100 thousand eggs or which the survival rate is 1 - 3 percent.

 

[MN Fisher]

6 minutes ago, Chris Catignani said:

One thing you might consider is dropping a few crappie attractors about 10 - 15 yards from your spot.

In Minnesota, you need to get a permit from the DNR to sink any type of artificial structure...that includes things like sinking christmas trees.

[NYWayfarer]

My Dad is in his 80’s and truly a man born out of time. He was catch and release before it was cool. 
 

I have a childhood memory where I caught a Bass and wanted to keep it. He looked at me sideways and said “Whatcha gonna do with it?” I said “I dunno” He said toss it back so it can live. I did and have been doing so since.

[Bird]

Very good post and one that shows empathy.

I think like you but suggest you let your Dad be himself and appreciate the time you've spent with him.

 

Plus.....he ain't gonna change, he's old school. Lol

[gim]

Circling back on this, as the dust seems to have settled on our clashing views.

 

Another issue has now come up though.  I got some pretty good advice on the previous issue, so I'd like to hear how you would approach this one.

 

In my boat, I have a fold-down middle seat to the pit area.  The back folds down and there is a designated step to use.  Both times my Father has been in my boat this season, he has not used that.  He steps from the back deck directly on the seat with his shoes down to the floor.  The first time I politely asked him to use the step down.  I briefly explained to him that its there for a reason and if he puts a hole in my seat, I would be very upset.  He didn't care for my request and just kind of ignored it.

 

Well, last weekend he did it again, and this time I raised my voice a little and brought up the fact that now twice this season he's been in my boat and twice now he's stepped on the chair without using the step down.  He blew up on me.  He said there's no way he's going to put a hole in the seat and its not a big deal, so I shouldn't be disrespecting him when I ask him not to step on the seat.  My response was "if you want to fish in this boat, you need to respect my request.  The fold down step is not rocket science.  You can easily use it and push it up and down with ease."  He ignored me for a full hour of fishing and back at the access we got into another argument about it.  I told him that I have never, not once, stepped on any of his chairs in his boat for 20 years like that.  We kept firing back and forth at each other about respect and disrespect until I just gave up and let silence take over.

 

I'm not even sure how to deal with this anymore.  If he comes with again, I could see him doing the exact same thing.  One of these times he really is going to put a hole or tear in my chair and then I'm going to have to fix it.  I take trusted friends with me fishing and all of them use that fold step-down when they are with.

 

I'm open to advice and suggestions again on this one.  Note: my initial post on generational fishing really has nothing to do with this new problem, I just wanted to make an update on that and now a new problem has surfaced.

[A-Jay]

12 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Circling back on this, as the dust seems to have settled on our clashing views.

 

Another issue has now come up though.  I got some pretty good advice on the previous issue, so I'd like to hear how you would approach this one.

 

In my boat, I have a fold-down middle seat to the pit area.  The back folds down and there is a designated step to use.  Both times my Father has been in my boat this season, he has not used that.  He steps from the back deck directly on the seat with his shoes down to the floor.  The first time I politely asked him to use the step down.  I briefly explained to him that its there for a reason and if he puts a hole in my seat, I would be very upset.  He didn't care for my request and just kind of ignored it.

 

Well, last weekend he did it again, and this time I raised my voice a little and brought up the fact that now twice this season he's been in my boat and twice now he's stepped on the chair without using the step down.  He blew up on me.  He said there's no way he's going to put a hole in the seat and its not a big deal, so I shouldn't be disrespecting him when I ask him not to step on the seat.  My response was "if you want to fish in this boat, you need to respect my request.  The fold down step is not rocket science.  You can easily use it and push it up and down with ease."  He ignored me for a full hour of fishing and back at the access we got into another argument about it.  I told him that I have never, not once, stepped on any of his chairs in his boat for 20 years like that.  We kept firing back and forth at each other about respect and disrespect until I just gave up and let silence take over.

 

I'm not even sure how to deal with this anymore.  If he comes with again, I could see him doing the exact same thing.  One of these times he really is going to put a hole or tear in my chair and then I'm going to have to fix it.  I take trusted friends with me fishing and all of them use that fold step-down when they are with.

 

I'm open to advice and suggestions again on this one.  Note: my initial post on generational fishing really has nothing to do with this new problem, I just wanted to make an update on that and now a new problem has surfaced.

I like we circle back on stuff ~ 

Right off the bat and I'm not pulling any punches here.

Your Dad sounds like piece of work.

Deliberately disrespecting someone else's gear (son or not) is just bogus.

Who the heck steps on the seat ? 

Is he just looking for ways to trip your trigger ?

This deal requires Zero explanation, for a mature human. 

Perhaps next time you go with him (if you chose to have a next time)

take the whole freaking seat out in advance. 

At this point I might not be taking the man out anymore.

Too Much Drama.

But I'd be sure to send him plenty of pictures of my catch though.

Wonder how he'd feel about you making a fecal deposit in his live well ?

Sort of the same thing.

Good Luck

A-Jay

 

 

 

 

[gim]

5 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Deliberately disrespecting someone else's gear (son or not) is just bogus.

Who the heck steps on the seat ? 

Is he just looking for ways to trip your trigger ?

This deal requires Zero explanation, for a mature human. 

Perhaps next time you go with him (if you chose to have a next time)

take the whole freaking seat out in advance. 

At this point I might not be taking the man out anymore.

 

Its difficult for me to deal with.  Thanks for the input.  It could be a while before we fish together again.  I'm not one to hold grudges, especially with my own immediate family.

 

Over the years, I can see that he has not taken care of his stuff as much as he used to.  And I'm a type A, detail-oriented person when it comes to my gear, which includes my boat.

[A-Jay]

10 minutes ago, gimruis said:

 

Its difficult for me to deal with.  Thanks for the input.  It could be a while before we fish together again.  I'm not one to hold grudges, especially with my own immediate family.

 

Over the years, I can see that he has not taken care of his stuff as much as he used to.  And I'm a type A, detail-oriented person when it comes to my gear, which includes my boat.

I get it but I think you know where I'm coming from.

We all have a line.

In the previous response here I was all about just going with the flow.

But this type deal crosses my own line and that's the basis for my response.

If it where my Dad, he'd know way before now what I was about.

And I'm like you, I take care of and use my gear but don't abuse it.

It would be up to him to conduct himself one way or the other.

My own son is 36 and you can bet he knows what I'm about.

Sadly, he doesn't live locally but fished with me when he did.

I'm finished here and do sincerely hope you guys work it out.

A-Jay

[Trox]

On 5/9/2022 at 3:24 PM, MN Fisher said:

Long as he stays on the straight and narrow

This has nothing to do with this post, but my entire life has been spent thinking that it was the "straightened arrow" that people had to follow... I learn so much here

[jbsoonerfan]

Take this with a grain of salt if you wish. I'm 42 years old and I haven't spoken to my dad in almost 4 years. All because of something he saw on Facebook that was a total misunderstanding. He thought I made dinner for my step father on fathers day in 2018 because of a post my mom made about having dinner at my house. I had no idea until about 6 months later when I got a letter in the mail saying I was out of his will and he didn't care if we ever talked again. We live less than 2 miles apart and haven't spoke since. We haven't had the best relationship over the years, but this was the last straw for me. I might regret it years from now, but I feel like I am doing what is best for me. He is a pretty self centered person who can be very demeaning, not anymore though. 

 

I didn't think I would ever post about this publicly, but it might be something you think about. He could care less about me because of something so stupid and trivial. 

[gim]

Very thoughtful post @jbsoonerfan.  I appreciate it.  I don't see that sort of situation occurring with my own Father, but I'm going to make myself very clear next time we fish together, whenever that may be.  If he blows up again, we may not be fishing together again for a very long time.

 

Honestly, I may need to get my Mother involved.  She has more pull when it comes to these sort of things than I do with him.

[TnRiver46]

I wish I could fish with my dad, I wouldn’t mind if he slapped me on the back of the head or stomped my chairs and rods. I say cherish the moments.