Reel handle slipping

[Hawgsnatcher]

Hi all, I have a diawa tatula ct 100xs. When I set the hook the reel handle slips backwards. I have no idea why it’s doing this and I just payed a bunch of money for diawa to service it. Any ideas as to what the problem is? I feel like it’s something with the drag.

[FishTank]

Could be a lot of things but this is my guess.....

 

AR bearing.  They don't go out often but usually happens from not being cleaned and oiled or using braid while trying to winch out a snag. The other possibility could be from being over greased instead of oiled but this would be rare. 

 

 

[garroyo130]

Anti reverse is bad or overgreased. Pull the AR inner sleeve and wipe that down with alcohol and reinstall. Usually thats enough unless it was really really overgreased in which case you may have to clean the individual rollers on the AR. 

[Yuddzy]

+1 To what everyone else already said here. If the handle is slipping backwards, it likely has to do with the Anti-Reverse. If it was a drag issue, you'd just have very little force required to activate drag, but the handle would not spin backwards. 

[Hawgsnatcher]

So would this mean I have to replace the ar bearing or just wipe it down?

 

[MN Fisher]

14 minutes ago, Hawgsnatcher said:

So would this mean I have to replace the ar bearing or just wipe it down?

 

Just cleaning it should do the trick.

[newapti5]

Could be many things; hard to say without detailed descriptions. You could just send it to the sponsor of this subforum - DVT.

[Hawgsnatcher]

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

Just cleaning it should do the trick.

So should I clean it and then put some oil on it?

[MN Fisher]

4 minutes ago, Hawgsnatcher said:

So should I clean it and then put some oil on it?

As minimal an amount as you can get away with.

 

Per Mike at DVT in another thread

 

[Hawgsnatcher]

So  I tore into it, and it was very very overgreased. I swabbed all of it off but am still confused on which bearing I should really be cleaning well? Is it the bearing that sits in the handle side plate?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

10 minutes ago, Hawgsnatcher said:

So  I tore into it, and it was very very overgreased. I swabbed all of it off but am still confused on which bearing I should really be cleaning well? Is it the bearing that sits in the handle side plate?

Yes is pressed into the side plate. Sometimes you can push them out but for your purpose don’t bother. Remove the side plate and spray the AR full of Simple Green etc, and swab it clean. Rinse with hot water. Shake out excess and sit out to dry. Put light oil on a swab and lightly coat the bearing and sleeve. Reassemble and you should be good. 

[MN Fisher]

18 minutes ago, Hawgsnatcher said:

Is it the bearing that sits in the handle side plate?

Visual for you - this is my Pflueger Patriarch, but most reels have the AR bearing situated in the same place.

[Deleted account]

On 5/8/2022 at 4:13 PM, Hawgsnatcher said:

So should I clean it and then put some oil on it?

Like a dry martini, just wave the vermouth bottle over the jigger...

[PhishLI]

13 hours ago, Hawgsnatcher said:

Is it the bearing that sits in the handle side plate?

When you remove the handle/washers/drag clicker, the first bearing you'll encounter found sitting in the sideplate on the outside is the second crank bearing. That's not the bearing causing your issue. You'll need to remove the side plate completely to access the bearing that's causing the problem from the inside. Once you remove the side plate, flip it, and view the AR bearing set into the sidplate. You don't need to remove it. You can clean it as described by DVT, or you can spray it out with a quality plastics safe electronics cleaner like CRC Lectra-Motive or Paslode Degreaser, if you have some. It dries in a few minutes through evaporation. A shot of compressed air will speed that up. Clean off the AR sleeve. Spray the bearing thoroughly, insert the AR sleeve, rotate it a 1/4 turn, remove it, spray again, then repeat twice. Once it dries put a nice drop of light oil on a cotton swap, spin it between two fingers to tamp down any stray light fibers, then run it over the bearing to lightly coat the needles. Reassemble.

 

 

[Hawgsnatcher]

On 5/10/2022 at 8:18 AM, PhishLI said:

hen you remove the handle/washers/drag clicker

Thanks for the info I will try it!

[Hawgsnatcher]

On 5/9/2022 at 7:05 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

ray the AR full of Simple Green etc

Or could I just use alcohol?

 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

17 hours ago, Hawgsnatcher said:

Or could I just use alcohol?

 

I’d use acetone over alcohol. 

[PhishLI]

22 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I’d use acetone over alcohol. 

Agreed, but carefully. I wouldn't experiment with it making contact with the plastic side plate, and especially the lettering.

[FrnkNsteen]

6 hours ago, PhishLI said:

Agreed, but carefully. I wouldn't experiment with it making contact with the plastic side plate, and especially the lettering.

Not to mention a lot of anti-reverse bearings have a plastic cage that could be damaged by harsher chemicals. I like sticking with things like Simple Green for that, as DVT suggested.

[garroyo130]

MAF sensor cleaner or alcohol here. Ive heard simple green needs to be completely rinsed or it can etch metal.