Casting Reel

[Tatulatard]

38 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

 

So I'll stick with my earlier recommendation of the Tatula 150. Easy to learn on with higher brake settings and all the practical distance you'll need once you get your legs under you and lower those settings. Great for chuck-n-wind resistance baits like chatterbaits, etc.

Yup.   I like my original type r and 150.  They are big reels and that dial can irritate your hand when palming so thats something to be aware of.  This used to be a big complaint of the tatulas when they 1st came.  You can just adapt and be fine.  I stated wrapping my pointer finger under the reel when palming with them and haven't had an issue since. 

[PhishLI]

40 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

They are big reels and that dial can irritate your hand when palming so thats something to be aware of. 

I've heard of this dial irritation issue, so it must be real for some people, but it hasn't been for me or anyone I know though. Lots of Daiwas spread throughout my clique. I suppose hand size or shape may be the reason.

 

As far as size goes, no problem there either. The other night I fished back and forth without a thought between the diminutive Tatula 80(Alphas sized) and a Catalina TW which has the same sized frame as the 150. Some people get hopped up on reel size, and that's fine, but I'm not uncomfortable with slightly larger low profile reels. I don't see the Tatula 150/Tat-Coastal 200/Zillion HD/ Catalina TW as being unusually large reels in reality. They're all comfortable for me. YMMV. That said, if Robert has unusually small hands, or doesn't but upon palming the reel feels the dial is an issue, then maybe he should buy from somewhere he can return it easily. My bet is that he'd be fine. This isn't a widespread issue.

[Phil77]

3 hours ago, Tatulatard said:

1/8 oz baits or 1/8 oz lead weights on plastics?  How does it compare to the SV reels you had?  Seems like a winner at that price. 

1/8th oz finesse jig no trailer. Every sv reel I've fished felt way over braked even with the spool tension backed way off. Some people love em and that's fine but I'll take a centrifugal or non sv mag reel any day. 

[B-Gee]

11 hours ago, ErieCan said:

 

This ^

 

Any of the Daiwa reels with the SV spools are very beginner friendly.

 

Thank you for this advice. The Tatula 150 is $170 and the SV's are $200. Can you tell me the advantages of the SV?

[Tatulatard]

8 hours ago, PhishLI said:

I've heard of this dial irritation issue, so it must be real for some people, but it hasn't been for me or anyone I know though. Lots of Daiwas spread throughout my clique. I suppose hand size or shape may be the reason.

 

As far as size goes, no problem there either. The other night I fished back and forth without a thought between the diminutive Tatula 80(Alphas sized) and a Catalina TW which has the same sized frame as the 150. Some people get hopped up on reel size, and that's fine, but I'm not uncomfortable with slightly larger low profile reels. I don't see the Tatula 150/Tat-Coastal 200/Zillion HD/ Catalina TW as being unusually large reels in reality. They're all comfortable for me. YMMV. That said, if Robert has unusually small hands, or doesn't but upon palming the reel feels the dial is an issue, then maybe he should buy from somewhere he can return it easily. My bet is that he'd be fine. This isn't a widespread issue.

It's how you palm the reel.  With a normal grip of three fingers in front of the trigger and your pointer on the blank or wrapped around the front of the reel the old tatula palms pretty bad.  If you tuck your pointer under the reel or palm with only 2 fingers in front of the trigger then they palm fine.  I read about this back when I got my old type r in 2015 and made the change after getting my pointer finger rubbed raw from the magnetic adjustment dial.  When they came out with the more narrow CT reels then that helped the issue.  

[PhishLI]

54 minutes ago, Robert C. Gates said:

Can you tell me the advantages of the SV?

How do you fish most often? Are you standing and casting while on a boat? Do you intend on sticking with this reel on a crankbait rod and throwing chatterbaits/spinnerbaits? If that's the case then there's nothing about the specific braking profile of a Tatula SV that's really beneficial over the 150's Magforce Z. IMO, the SV's braking profile may frustrate you here. Magforce Z is better suited here, especially with heavier baits on a rod that bends deeper into the blank. In addition, the 150 is a heavier duty reel than the Tat SV and is better suited for chuck-n-wind resistance baits.

[B-Gee]

1 minute ago, PhishLI said:

How do you fish most often? Are you standing and casting while on a boat? Do you intend on sticking with this reel on a crankbait rod and throwing chatterbaits/spinnerbaits? If that's the case then there's nothing about the specific braking profile of a Tatula SV that's really beneficial over the 150's Magforce Z. IMO, the SV's braking profile may frustrate you here. Magforce Z is better suited here, especially with heavier bait weights on a rod that bends deeper into the blank. In addition, the 150 is a heavier duty reel than the Tat SV and is better suited for chuck-n-wind resistance baits.

Thanks, Phil. I will be casting 3/8 oz chatterbaits plus trailers from shore. I will be standing.

[B-Gee]

Thanks for all your recommendations for reels. I would also appreciate any suggestions for rods to go with the reel for chatterbaits, 3/8 oz size plus trailer. I understand that moderate/medium action rods work best because they flex enough the allow the fish to get hooked more easily. I’ll be fishing from shore.

[roadwarrior]

 

[PhishLI]

9 minutes ago, Robert C. Gates said:

I would also appreciate any suggestions for rods to go with the reel for chatterbaits, 3/8 oz size plus trailer.

MH composite crank bait rod rated to 1 1/2oz.

[PressuredFishing]

2 hours ago, Robert C. Gates said:

Thank you for this advice. The Tatula 150 is $170 and the SV's are $200. Can you tell me the advantages of the SV?

The SV spool is just a little more upgraded

[Tatulatard]

2 hours ago, Robert C. Gates said:

Thank you for this advice. The Tatula 150 is $170 and the SV's are $200. Can you tell me the advantages of the SV?

The sv reels are smaller and lighter.  The sv spool is better a skipping.  The 150 is a bigger but more solid feeling reel.  

[Dash Riprock]

8 hours ago, Robert C. Gates said:

Thank you for this advice. The Tatula 150 is $170 and the SV's are $200. Can you tell me the advantages of the SV?

The Tatula line in particular is very confusing. Even the official Daiwa website doesn't really tell you all the differences. 

 

I was kinda like you a couple of years ago. Although I did own an older Garcia Blue Max baitcasting combo, and I'd gotten relatively proficient at it with certain baits, I mainly fished with a spinning reel. Decided to upgrade and ended up getting bit hard by the reel monkey, and next thing I knew I'd collected 4 or 5 different baitcasters, one of which was the Tatula SV TW103.

 

btw, as if this wasn't confusing enough, there are two Tatula SV TW's out there often labeled as the same thing. Mine is the more recent release and other than slightly different cosmetics, I couldn't tell you what the differences are. 

 

Anyway, it's a joy to cast and it's nearly idiot proof, clearly my favorite among the others (a Lew's Tournament Pro, Shimano SLX, and a Tatula CT) although I try to work them all into the rotation. I mainly fish from banks with lighter lures like weightless worms and as long as I don't make a jerky cast, it handles them just fine. My problem is that I seldom get a chance to cast without fighting various degrees of brush, so I can't ever really just relax and "swing for the fences", or experiment/practice different casting angles. Ironically, I've found myself drifting back to the spinning reel lately and debating whether to hang on to all these baitcasters. Oh well.

 

I think I got mine on a Black Friday sale for around $150. It's money well spent. 

[NYWayfarer]

23 hours ago, Robert C. Gates said:

 

Probably $100-$200.

$100 Lew’s LFS

$189 Shimano SLX DC

 

For the lower end of your budget I would go with the Lew’s LFS one of the best $100 offerings especially since most other companies have raised their prices (Looking at you Abu $120 Revo X) the LFS has aluminum frame and the Pinion bearing supported pinion gear. 
 

For the higher end of your budget the $190 Shimano SLX DC is my choice. Once you hear that DC whine and see the casting potential it’s hard to put it down.

23 hours ago, Robert C. Gates said:

 

Probably $100-$200.

[FL_Angler]

On 4/27/2022 at 10:35 AM, Robert C. Gates said:

Thanks for all your recommendations for reels. I would also appreciate any suggestions for rods to go with the reel for chatterbaits, 3/8 oz size plus trailer. I understand that moderate/medium action rods work best because they flex enough the allow the fish to get hooked more easily. I’ll be fishing from shore.

I recently purchased the Dobyn’s DC 735CB GLASS solely to fish chatterbaits but it can also be used for crankbaits and spinnersbaits. It has a fast tip but it is a composite rod and tip will load better than a normal MH graphite rod with a fast tip. If I wanted a graphite rod I’d probably look for one with a moderate or mod-fast tip but with a composite rod I think a fast tip is fine for chatterbaits. But I’m still new to this type of fishing and could be wrong. 
 

Also like you I’ve been using spinning gear all my life. Finally got my first baitcaster this year and went with the Shimano SLX DC since I read about how the DC braking system is suppose to help with backlashes. The only time I backlashed was with brake setting 1 which is not for beginners anyways. I keep it on setting 2 which is for braid and have never backlashed on it. 

[A kid from Canada]

I'd take the Tatula 150 over the SV (I own both) because you said you wanted to use 50lb braid. The 150 was my second reel ever and I never found problems learning with it. My first reel was a picifun which was a pain in the butt. 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I tested a Tatula CT for a shop customer this morning.  Mh rod, 30# braid 1/2 oz bullet weight. It casted flawlessly with minimal user input with no spool tension and brakes set at 0, 10 and 20 with, into and cross wind. If I remember correctly they use the standard mag force brake. 

[Tatulatard]

5 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I tested a Tatula CT for a shop customer this morning.  Mh rod, 30# braid 1/2 oz bullet weight. It casted flawlessly with minimal user input with no spool tension and brakes set at 0, 10 and 20 with, into and cross wind. If I remember correctly they use the standard mag force brake. 

Magforce z.  

[PhishLI]

6 hours ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I tested a Tatula CT for a shop customer this morning.  Mh rod, 30# braid 1/2 oz bullet weight. It casted flawlessly with minimal user input with no spool tension and brakes set at 0, 10 and 20 with, into and cross wind.

The Tat 150 is essentially a beefed up Tatula CT. Both have Magforce-Z. It has a 3mm wider spool at 28mm vs 25mm, a 100mm handle vs 90mm, and a metal frame plus metal gear side plate where the CT's side plate is plastic. For a $30 more you get a purpose built power fishing reel that holds up nicely doing just that, and also casts very well with common bass baits.

[B-Gee]

Thank youy very much for your helpful recommendations. I'm considering ordering the following rod and reel combination. I understand they are backordered but I'm not in any hurry.

Daiwa Tatula Elite Casting Rod 7'4" Med Hvy Howell     $179.99 

Daiwa Tatula Casting Reel 150H    $169.99  

 

 

[Tatulatard]

My personal recommendation would be to get the tatula elite off aliexpress for that $170 instead of the full retail price tatula 150.  I have both and the elite is absolutely the better reel.  At full retail the tatula elite is a bit pricy.

[B-Gee]

Thanks Tatulatard. I'd appreciate it if you would tell the advantages of the elite over the 150.

[B-Gee]

I'm right handed and have been using spinning gear in the past with the reel handle on the left. I'm thinking about getting a left handed casting reel and wonder if there would be any diadvantage to this. I notice that most of those I see in the YouTube videos use right handed reels. 

[Tatulatard]

1 hour ago, Robert C. Gates said:

Thanks Tatulatard. I'd appreciate it if you would tell the advantages of the elite over the 150.

Much smaller and better palming.  6.9 oz vs nearly 8 oz of the 150.  The spool in the elite casts much better too.  It's very effortless in how is casts and makes long casts.  The 150 spool is heavy and casts fine but its not effortless and you gotta lean into it to get that 16 grams plus line moving.  Not the case with the elite long cast.  

 

56 minutes ago, Robert C. Gates said:

I'm right handed and have been using spinning gear in the past with the reel handle on the left. I'm thinking about getting a left handed casting reel and wonder if there would be any diadvantage to this. I notice that most of those I see in the YouTube videos use right handed reels. 

You can learn either.  The reason for this prevalence of right hand reels was because with baitcasters the proper casting techinque is to change up grips between casting and palming the reel unlike a spinning reel where you hold it the same when casting and reeling.  Because you have to change up hand positions most just change hands when doing this and use the right hand to both cast and reel but you can still do the same thing with a left hand reel.  Might was well start now with a left hand reel of you're starting with bait casters from scratch.

[softwateronly]

2 hours ago, Robert C. Gates said:

I'm right handed and have been using spinning gear in the past with the reel handle on the left. I'm thinking about getting a left handed casting reel and wonder if there would be any diadvantage to this. I notice that most of those I see in the YouTube videos use right handed reels. 

I reel spinning with my left hand and switched to baitcasting relatively recently.  I chose lefty and the transition was super smooth for me.  I see no downsides now that L hand reels seem just as available as R hand.

 

scott