Lew’s Tournament Pro Spool noise

[Fishydishy]

I have a brand new Lew’s Tournament Pro. It’s makes a noise at the end of a free spin and when I reel it very slowly. I did a exchange, the new one does the same thing. When I reel it at a normal speed, no noise though. Anyone have the same experience with a reel? Is this normal? 

 

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[Phil77]

Sounds bad like metal on metal. Might try oiling the brake ring but that sounds like the spool pin isn't in place.

[newapti5]

That's normal. Tournament Pro's brake shoes can't be locked, so when you spin the spool, all six brake shoes will spread out because of centrifugal force. When the spool slows down, those six brake shoes will fall into resting position one by one, making that "noise."  When you reel it in normal speed, those brake shoes won't spread out, so no sound.  Abu Revos with similar brake design make similar sound as well. 

 

You could oil the brake ring, or oil the brake shoes, see if the sound would quiet down.

[waymont]

That reels needs a drop of oil on the brakes every 5-6 fishing trips.

It's in the manual.

[Phil77]

I have almost every ACB reel lews makes and none of them ever made that sound. I fish 5-7 days a week so my brakes are oiled weekly. I'd return it or call lews, they have excellent customer service. Where did you purchase it so I know where not to order from?

[Tatulatard]

Yep, that sounds like a swing arm centrifugal brake to me.  Totally normal.

[BobbyBudnick]

I just tried mine and it doesn't make that sound. Although my spool has line on it and the brake race is lightly oiled.

[Fishydishy]

1 hour ago, BobbyBudnick said:

I just tried mine and it doesn't make that sound. Although my spool has line on it and the brake race is lightly oiled.

Did you reel it very slowly?

[Tatulatard]

17 hours ago, newapti5 said:

That's normal. Tournament Pro's brake shoes can't be locked, so when you spin the spool, all six brake shoes will spread out because of centrifugal force. When the spool slows down, those six brake shoes will fall into resting position one by one, making that "noise."  When you reel it in normal speed, those brake shoes won't spread out, so no sound.  Abu Revos with similar brake design make similar sound as well. 

 

You could oil the brake ring, or oil the brake shoes, see if the sound would quiet down.

Correct.  That is the sound of the bottom centrifugal brakes being pulled down by gravity and striking the friction surface.  As the spool slowly spins a new brake moves to the bottom position and falls into the friction plate.  This is because the brakes are mounted to the spool outer edge and the hindge point the brake arm swings on is below the head of the brake that hits the friction plate.  If you remove the spool and lowly spin it by hand you will see the brakes fall down one by one as the spool is spun.  Spin it fast enough and they all fly out.  

 

Actually I'm confusing this with abu's swing arm brake.  The lews one isn't hindged at the spool rim but the same principle applies and is what is causing the noise as these slow rotational speeds.

[BobbyBudnick]

2 hours ago, Fishydishy said:

Did you reel it very slowly?

I just spun the spool with my finger like seen on the video posted

[Phil77]

Just checked my hyper mag, lite, TP, and pro ti after wiping the brake ring dry and none of them make that sound. I free spooled them and turned the handle slow and fast and couldn't get any noise. Return it or call lews.

[Tatulatard]

Spin the spool with the side plate facing up.  You won't hear the noise.  It's the brakes hitting the friction plate or hitting the side of the spool as they fall back down.  That type of noise is normal for swing arm type brakes.  

[Phil77]

32 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

Spin the spool with the side plate facing up.  You won't hear the noise.  It's the brakes hitting the friction plate or hitting the side of the spool as they fall back down.  That type of noise is normal for swing arm type brakes.  

That noise isn't normal. Take the Abu reels with the ivcb which is kind of similar to the ACB and they don't make the noise like in the video. The only noise my ACB reels ever make is a slight whining noise, that's when you know it's time to oil the brake ring. Just for blanks and giggles to the OP clean the brake ring with alcohol and let it dry then spread one drop of the supplied oil around the brake ring and see if it stops. I can't get any of my reels with the same braking system to make that sound dry or lubed. If that noise was "normal" I wouldn't own a lews reel with the ACB brake system as that noise would drive me crazy in about a minute. 

[FishTank]

Sounds normal to me.  They are other reels and brands for that matter that make the same noise.  Stick some line on it and go fish it.  If it makes the same noise after fishing it a few times and still bothers you or effects the performance of the reel, I would return it and go a different direction. 

[Fishydishy]

52 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

Spin the spool with the side plate facing up.  You won't hear the noise.  It's the brakes hitting the friction plate or hitting the side of the spool as they fall back down.  That type of noise is normal for swing arm type brakes.  

Correct, no sound when the side plate is facing up. 

[Tatulatard]

5 minutes ago, Phil77 said:

That noise isn't normal. Take the Abu reels with the ivcb which is kind of similar to the ACB and they don't make the noise like in the video. The only noise my ACB reels ever make is a slight whining noise, that's when you know it's time to oil the brake ring. Just for blanks and giggles to the OP clean the brake ring with alcohol and let it dry then spread one drop of the supplied oil around the brake ring and see if it stops. I can't get any of my reels with the same braking system to make that sound dry or lubed. If that noise was "normal" I wouldn't own a lews reel with the ACB brake system as that noise would drive me crazy in about a minute. 

I have an abu ivcb and it makes exactly that same noise when I do exactly what the op done did.  Oiling the brake surface is beneficial but really is only going to stop brake screeching.  What we hear are the brakes moving about freely and  being smacked around by gravity as the spool slowly rotates.

2 minutes ago, Fishydishy said:

Correct, no sound when the side plate is facing up. 

We have discovered gravity.  

[Phil77]

Well I must be deaf  because none of my lews or abu's make that noise. 

[newapti5]

4 hours ago, Phil77 said:

Take the Abu reels with the ivcb which is kind of similar to the ACB and they don't make the noise like in the video.

 

Yes, my Revo 3 Premier with ivcb brake makes similar sound as well, and there's nothing wrong with it. It might sound bad in OP's video, but in reality, it's actually tiny sound that you'll have to try hard to hear it in a quiet environment. 

 

Not every reel with that brake design will have that sound loud enough to be discerned, but it's there for sure, if you listen closely enough.  OP could keep doing exchange until having a quieter one, but I wouldn't call OP's reel a defect. It's within normal manufacturing tolerance, and won't cause any problem. 

 

It's like the little gap in reel handle knobs. I used to have two Curado K. One's handle knobs have zero gap - it's a tight fit in tolerance right out of factory.  The other one has a noticeable gap when you move the knobs.  I wouldn't call the latter "defect" and return it, as the gap is normal for a reel in this price range and it doesn't affect anything in performance.  I only consider myself lucky that I got one with tight fit right out of assembly line. 

 

 

 

[Phil77]

4 hours ago, newapti5 said:

 

Yes, my Revo 3 Premier with ivcb brake makes similar sound as well, and there's nothing wrong with it. It might sound bad in OP's video, but in reality, it's actually tiny sound that you'll have to try hard to hear it in a quiet environment. 

 

Not every reel with that brake design will have that sound loud enough to be discerned, but it's there for sure, if you listen closely enough.  OP could keep doing exchange until having a quieter one, but I wouldn't call OP's reel a defect. It's within normal manufacturing tolerance, and won't cause any problem. 

 

It's like the little gap in reel handle knobs. I used to have two Curado K. One's handle knobs have zero gap - it's a tight fit in tolerance right out of factory.  The other one has a noticeable gap when you move the knobs.  I wouldn't call the latter "defect" and return it, as the gap is normal for a reel in this price range and it doesn't affect anything in performance.  I only consider myself lucky that I got one with tight fit right out of assembly line. 

 

 

 

I have the same reel as in the video, a Revo Ike and a Revo MGX sitting here. I am in absolute silence and have tried every way possible to get these reels to make a noise like the one in the video. Brakes on full all the way to off and nothing. I guess mine are defective. If this is normal why doesn't a Shimano with svs brakes do the same thing? It's close to the same design, the blocks have to go back to rest at some point but they make no noise either. Anyways I'm done, I have better things to do like go fishing. To the OP disregard my posts, apparently all my reels are defective and silent. 

[Boogey Man]

I find it hard to believe the tiny, near weightless, plastic brake shoes are making that kind of noise, regardless of position of the reel. I'm with Phil77, sounds like metal on metal to me. 

 

It's hard to count how many clicks there were in the video but I'd say well over a dozen. So if their are 6 brake shoes that would mean they are bouncing up and down and hitting the brake race multiple times? 

[newapti5]

2 hours ago, Phil77 said:

If this is normal why doesn't a Shimano with svs brakes do the same thing?

 

Actually, Shimano's svs brake ring design is different - it's on the inside of brake shoes rotating circle, so when the spool slows down, gravity will pull those block shoes away from the brake ring.

 

But you are right - we all have better things to do in the prespawn/spawning season. Let's agree to disagree.

[Tatulatard]

2 hours ago, Phil77 said:

I have the same reel as in the video, a Revo Ike and a Revo MGX sitting here. I am in absolute silence and have tried every way possible to get these reels to make a noise like the one in the video. Brakes on full all the way to off and nothing. I guess mine are defective. If this is normal why doesn't a Shimano with svs brakes do the same thing? It's close to the same design, the blocks have to go back to rest at some point but they make no noise either. Anyways I'm done, I have better things to do like go fishing. To the OP disregard my posts, apparently all my reels are defective and silent. 

Shimano SVS brakes contact a center mounted brake drum with the bottom of the brakes.  When the brakes fall down from gravity they pull the bottoms off the drum.  The brake tops will fall back against the SVS brake holder but that's plastic and are silent. 

 

Remove the spool from your TP.  Grab it by the spool shaft and slowly rotate it while holding it mostly level but with a slight downward angle.  You will see the brakes swing out on top from gravity due to the slight angle and as the spool is slowly rotated the brakes will fall back down and hit the metal rim of the spool making the clicking noise.  You can also grab brake on top of the spool, pull it out, and then rotate the spool and you will see it fall back into place and make a noise as it strikes the spool.  This is normal behavior for these type of long swing arm centrifugal brakes.  The kind that side dont swing so they dont makes these types of motions or noise.  

 

Why do you not hear it with your reels with the same system?  DO they have the same system?  If they do then are you holding the reel horizontal or is the side plate facing slightly upwards?  Remember it's gravity doing this.  The brakes won't swing out on top of the spool and fall back down on the bottom of the spool if the spool side with the brakes is facing up.  

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, Boogey Man said:

sounds like metal on metal to me. 

It sounds like a hard plastic brake shoe tapping metal to me.

[Phil77]

8 hours ago, PhishLI said:

It sounds like a hard plastic brake shoe tapping metal to me.

Well I've fished this same reel hard for over a year without ever hearing a sound along with multiple ACB reels so throw my experience right out the window. 

[Tatulatard]

2 hours ago, Phil77 said:

Well I've fished this same reel hard for over a year without ever hearing a sound along with multiple ACB reels so throw my experience right out the window. 

You'll never hear this no matter how hard or soft you fish a reel.  This is something that is only observed flicking a spool with no spool tension in a quiet environment.