I need some education on jigs please

[NavyVet1204]

4 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I first bought  Arkie jigs and #11 pork frogs after reading about Bo Dowdens Classic win with the jig and pig years ago. I bought them at Wal Mart, and set out learning to fish them.                                           In all honesty, I almost gave up on them.  I thought I'd never learn to fish a bass jig, and nicknamed them the bait of 1000 cast.                             One late Spring day I cast a brn Arkie jig with brn pork frog near a blowdown in about 4ft deep water.                       When I slowly lifted the rod, something felt heavy, and different. I ended up catching a 3lb bass on the jig. I've fished them ever since, and have caught many bass over the years. It's a great bait to learn, and add to your arsenal. But, as Catt says above, it's not a sure fire thing every time. Some days, the jig is the best thing. Other days you may catch more fish on something else. And, as WRB says above, sharp hooks are a must, and strike detection is the key.             NavyVet1204, stick to it. You will learn this. Best of luck to you on your jig fishing.

While I didn’t land a bass today(see above pic) I did catch a good fish and my confidence in the jig is now founded. Thank you all for the advice!

[DaubsNU1]

I've never been very good with jigs. 

 

Once while living in Missouri, I fished flooded timber in my belly boat...pitched jig next to tree and waited for it to fall and hit bottom. 

 

Once on the bottom...my line started to move...I never felt a thing.  

 

Set the hook and swore I snagged a stump...then the fight began. Turned out to be a 36" Musky!!

[Bankbeater]

Around here you can fish a jig by swimming, hopping, or dragging it.  A lot of times it will be the profile of jig that triggers the bite.  In one small lake last year I was just hooking the trailer over the jig hook and not getting bites.  After I started threading the trailer on the hook the bites started.

[Catt]

2 hours ago, Boomstick said:

You ever use the SK skipping jig? That has a nice flat head that stands right up on the bottom too.

 

I ain't trying to duplicate a Shaky Head!

 

Look at the picture, that jig doesn't lay over in its side like most jigs. 6th Sense Divine Hybrid Jig is another that does the same thing.

 

The next issue is the relationship between the hook eye & the hook point. Even Denny Brauer changed his Premier Pro Model Jig to reflect these two changes in his structure jigs.

 

Y'all throw 3-4 different jigs on different setups, I throw one jig on one jig rod. Well with one exception, I punch with a jig.

 

1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said:

I find it ironic that your fav jig is called fluorocarbon jig 

 

It's a constant reminder how much I hate Fluorocarbon!

2 hours ago, Boomstick said:

You ever use the SK skipping jig? That has a nice flat head that stands right up on the bottom too.

 

I ain't trying to duplicate a Shaky Head!

 

Look at the picture, that jig doesn't lay over in its side like most jigs. 6th Sense Divine Hybrid Jig is another that does the same thing.

 

The next issue is the relationship between the hook eye & the hook point. Even Denny Brauer changed his Premier Pro Model Jig to reflect these two changes in his structure jigs.

 

Y'all throw 3-4 different jigs on different setups, I throw one jig on one jig rod. Well with one exception, I punch with a jig.

 

1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said:

I find it ironic that your fav jig is called fluorocarbon jig 

 

It's a constant reminder how much I hate Fluorocarbon!

[Derek1]

A couple more good jig bites and you’ll find yourself rubbing your fingers together and smiling over a table like this. 

[NavyVet1204]

Just now, Derek1 said:

A couple more good jig bites and you’ll find yourself rubbing your fingers together and smiling over a table like this. 

Bait monkey’s laugh is echoing at this very moment in my direction. Nice haul!

@Derek1

 

What brand are those jigs?

[TnRiver46]

4 minutes ago, Derek1 said:

A couple more good jig bites and you’ll find yourself rubbing your fingers together and smiling over a table like this. 

No chunk trailers??

[Catt]

Most of y'all started out with Arkie Jigs, I started out with Stanley's Jig, then went to Oldham's EyeMax Jig, & finally Hack Attack Fluorocarbon Jig.

 

Notice anything about the EyeMax & Fluorocarbon jigs?

 

 

[A-Jay]

7 minutes ago, Catt said:

Notice anything about the EyeMax & Fluorocarbon jigs?

 

 

Both Screw lock keepers.

A-Jay

[Bird]

I and my fishing partner have caught all of our big fish on 3/8 swim Jigs this year by simply swimming them through and around heavy cover.

In heavy cover you'll want to physically press the weed guard closer to the hook to minimize hang ups....... I've found.

Here's the colors that have been producers

Heads are OutKast heads

[Catt]

20 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Both Screw lock keepers.

A-Jay

 

Should known it would be A-Jay!

 

Hook eye & hook point, pretty much a straight line.

[Derek1]

1 hour ago, NavyVet1204 said:

Bait monkey’s laugh is echoing at this very moment in my direction. Nice haul!

@Derek1

 

What brand are those jigs?

Siebert outdoors. 

1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said:

No chunk trailers??

Nope,rage craws and menace mostly. I already use them t rigged a lot. Trying to keep my 50 pounds of plastics at 50 pounds lol. 

This is good stuff right here. 

[TnRiver46]

8 minutes ago, Derek1 said:

Siebert outdoors. 

Nope,rage craws and menace mostly. I already use them t rigged a lot. Trying to keep my 50 pounds of plastics at 50 pounds lol. 

This is good stuff right here. 

That dog will hunt! 

[RDB]

4 hours ago, Catt said:

The next issue is the relationship between the hook eye & the hook point. Even Denny Brauer changed his Premier Pro Model Jig to reflect these two changes in his structure jigs.

I’m confused, are you referring to a vertical v. horizontal line tie or something else?

[Glenn]

This should help:

 

 

 

And this:

 

 

[Catt]

5 hours ago, RDB said:

I’m confused, are you referring to a vertical v. horizontal line tie or something else?

 

 

[LrgmouthShad]

8 hours ago, Catt said:

Hook eye & hook point, pretty much a straight line

Hackney talks about this in a YouTube video plastics vs jigs. Really, that fluorocarbon jig has two characteristics that seem to be mentioned on here for more positive hookups: no interference of line tie with hook gap and horizontal line tie.

 

The g2 football jigs from siebert's have an excellent hook gap as well. The recessed line tie allows for more 'bite' with the hook. One of the things I noticed when I got the jigs.

[Catt]

32 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

horizontal line tie.

 

It doesn't matter if the line tie is horizontal, vertical, diagonal, resseced, or what ever.

 

It's about it being "rolled" foward if you will, this removes it out of the way of the hook point. 

 

Second it's more bullet shaped which goes through grass better. In wood the jig will follow your line up to the "limb" & over with minimal pressure. Other eye locations kick the back of the jig up snagging whatever is near.

 

With the bottom being wider than the top this jig "sits" upright on the bottom. Not like a Shaky Head, nose down. This helps the hook penetrate the roof of the mouth. 

 

At least Hackney convinced me!

[RDB]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

It's about it being "rolled" foward if you will, this removes it out of the way of the hook point. 

So I think I get what you’re saying.  You are talking about the placement of the line tie on the head right?  In the case of the fluoro or Brauer jig, it has a zero degree line tie v. say a football jig that might be as much as 90 degrees.

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On 4/13/2022 at 9:07 PM, WRB said:

Why do bass anglers have a difficult time catching bass on jigs?

1. strike detection.

2. Wrong weight.

3. Wrong jig head design for the presentation.

4. Dull or wrong size hook.

5. Weak hook set.

Strike detection is #1. Nearly bass angler I have fished with, including a few pro’s, miss strike often! Bass strike jigs most of the time and reject it in a few seconds. The bass that are caught usually hook themselves or swim off with the jig.

I can hear you saying not me I can detect jig strikes every time. I am saying you miss most Jig strikes if you don’t catch Jig bass consistently and you bigger bass are not jig fish.

Unfortunately the bigger the basses mouth is the more difficult the+strike detection is.

Wrong  weight jig for the conditions. Ideally you want a jig that you can keep in contact with and have the rate of fall That triggers strikes. Most bass jig anglers use jigs that are too heavy for the depth and conditions.

Wrong jig head design that snags too often. Jigs shouldn’t snag often if you keep in contact with it. If the jig keeps snagging change to a different head design or little weight.

The most important component with a jig is the hook. I can’t overstate this, a sharp jig hook is essential. If you don’t have sharp hooks the bass will not hook itself temporarily indicating a strike. Too heavy a hook wire requires more force to penetrate, too small or light wire the hook misses tissues.

Weak hook set because the rod isn’t stiff enough to transfer force or the hook set doesn’t move enough line to penetrate the hook. Line stretch is overstated, you only need a few pounds of force to drive a sharp hook past the barb.  

Tom 

 

Excellent!