FL_Angler Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 I have a St. Croix victory rod that is rated for up to a 1 1/2 oz lure. Does this mean I can only use up to a 1 1/2 oz tungsten flipping weight on it or could I do up to a 2 oz? I’m not doing any over head casts. I’m only flipping and punching mats. I looked at many flipping rods online and they are all rated for up to 1 1/2 oz max. Quote
Deephaven Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 It will overload the rod casting perhaps....but you aren't casting per se so I wouldn't hesitate to see how you like it. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 If you put a 1-1/2 oz weight, then a decent size plastic that can weigh upwards of 1/2oz or more - you better be darn careful with it. 11 minutes ago, FL_Angler said: I looked at many flipping rods online and they are all rated for up to 1 1/2 oz max. I dunno where you looked but my Fury 765FLIP is rated to 2oz and the 805FLIP is rated to 2-1/2 oz. Sounds like you got the 7'4" Full Contact - which isn't a 'flipping rod' The 7'11" Knockout would be a flipping rod and is rated to 2-1/2 oz. 1 Quote
FL_Angler Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: If you put a 1-1/2 oz weight, then a decent size plastic that can weigh upwards of 1/2oz or more - you better be darn careful with it. I dunno where you looked but my Fury 765FLIP is rated to 2oz and the 805FLIP is rated to 2-1/2 oz. Sounds like you got the 7'4" Full Contact - which isn't a 'flipping rod' The 7'11" Knockout would be a flipping rod and is rated to 2-1/2 oz. Thanks for clearing that up! I fish from either a kayak or paddleboard and wanted a rod that wasn’t too long for flipping. I saw the 1 1/2 oz rating and thought it would be suitable for punching mats. What does the term full contact mean in regards to bass fishing? What is this rod best suited for? Quote
Phil77 Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 What happens if you catch a fish over 1 1/2 oz? All joking aside it should be fine if your just pitching and flipping, I wouldn't go overhead bomb casting with 2oz. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 I wouldn’t be as worried about doing damage as I would not liking the feel. Overweighted rods can have a mushy feeling especially with a pegged weight. All you can do is try it. On the other side, 2oz might be more than you really need for conditions. I don’t know if I even own any weights that heavy. 5 Quote
Super User Catt Posted April 1, 2022 Super User Posted April 1, 2022 The guys in black helicopters will show up & whisk you away to Guantanamo Bay! Seriously guys what's wrote on rods are suggestions! Read the line weight on more rods & you would never use braid! 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 It’s also not accurate to say this is a flipping rod and that’s not. I flip and pitch baits with every rod I use. 4 Quote
rtwvumtneer6 Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 16 hours ago, Catt said: The guys in black helicopters will show up & whisk you away to Guantanamo Bay! Seriously guys what's wrote on rods are suggestions! Read the line weight on more rods & you would never use braid! Sometimes I think they must be referring to line diameter and and not actually rated # test. So hypothetically we're talking 30ish # braid? Suppose I should test that theory. I'll buy that rod, spool up with 8# and tie on a 7/8oz plug then report back ?? Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 2, 2022 Super User Posted April 2, 2022 If you are flipping you are lifting the bass out of the water with the that rod, hope the bass weighs more then 2 oz! Tom 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted April 2, 2022 Super User Posted April 2, 2022 6 hours ago, rtwvumtneer6 said: Sometimes I think they must be referring to line diameter and and not actually rated # test. Up until the last 3-4 yrs none listed braided line size & those that did throw 65# out there because it's the most popular. As stated all that writing is simply suggestions. My Powell Inferno is rated 1/4-3/4 oz, does that mean I can't throw a Wacky Rigged Trick Worm? No! Cause I do all the time! Next y'all gonna wanna know what reel ya can put on it? 1 Quote
Captain Phil Posted April 2, 2022 Posted April 2, 2022 I'm curious. Do you need 1 1/2 oz. weights to punch through your mats? I flip heavy topped out hydrilla in the summer and the heaviest weight I have ever used was 3/4 oz. I sometimes must shake the bait to get it to drop through. 1 Quote
FL_Angler Posted April 5, 2022 Author Posted April 5, 2022 On 4/2/2022 at 9:10 AM, Captain Phil said: I'm curious. Do you need 1 1/2 oz. weights to punch through your mats? I flip heavy topped out hydrilla in the summer and the heaviest weight I have ever used was 3/4 oz. I sometimes must shake the bait to get it to drop through. I fished Lake Toho in Kissimmee a week ago and had to move up from 1 oz to 1 1/4 oz to get through mats that had hydrilla, hyacinth and water lettuce. Got through about 90% of the mats with the 1 1/4 oz. 1 1/2oz would have been ideal. 3/4 oz definitely wouldn’t have been enough unless I would have only been pitching to open holes in the mats. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted April 5, 2022 Super User Posted April 5, 2022 I have a few rods that max out at 1.5oz., and I routinely overhead cast 2oz. baits like glide baits and umbrella rigs with them. They get mushy and don't cast well, but they're not going to break. I've only broken one rod on a cast. And that was while casting a DT-10 (3/5 oz. lure) on a rod rated to 1-1/2 oz. It was a brand new rod too, which lead me to believe it was defective from the factory. So I say give the rod you have a try. If it doesn't feel stiff enough, then you might need a new rod. If it feels okay, then save your money. But you won't damage the rod by pitching and flipping weights like that. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted April 5, 2022 Super User Posted April 5, 2022 I have the same rod in the Premier line and its a pool cue. It will cast most things well up to about 2oz total weight. For flipping and pitching, you should be fine with a 1.5 oz weight and the bait. Quote
Super User Boomstick Posted April 6, 2022 Super User Posted April 6, 2022 I wouldn't go above a 1oz weight on that rod for casting. 1oz weight plus up to a 1/2oz soft plastic and you're already hitting that weight limit. For flipping and not casting, 2oz should be fine. Quote
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