Super User Team9nine Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 I have to admit, this new reel has my attention. Look close...no drag Might have to buy one to try just to spite all those companies now removing the anti-reverse switch on their spinning reels - lol. Finally, a reel built for the backreeler/thumb-barrers of the world (however few of us there are). Could be an epic fail, or the greatest thing since the original Shimano Castaic - time will tell. I'll be curious to see what sales look like (how much actual interest). I might have to bite 3 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 Cool. I'll be interested in your results. And by all means, spool that baby up with 6 lb test. A-Jay 2 Quote
Blaine Donders Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 I think the drag is there, just the star is eliminated. You have to reach in and turn it behind the handle? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Blaine Donders said: I think the drag is there, just the star is eliminated. You have to reach in and turn it behind the handle? Nope - no drag. From KastKing "KastKing built the Speed Demon Deadbolt reel that is a real performance baitcasting reel with no drag. Let me repeat…no drag. There's no star drag. The fishing reel is locked down solid. There's no drag so there's no chance of your drag slipping or ever loosening up. " https://kastking.com/blogs/buying-guides-reviews/five-best-baitcasting-reels-for-2022 2 Quote
Tatulatard Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Lmao i guarantee that thing does not back reel. It's the next insane step in the ridiculous drag arms race. No drag. Or infinite drag as in the handle is keyed to the main gear. 100 lbs of drag!!! Quote
Blaine Donders Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tatulatard said: Lmao i guarantee that thing does not back reel. It's the next insane step in the ridiculous drag arms race. No drag. Or infinite drag as in the handle is keyed to the main gear. 100 lbs of drag!!! The last BB1 launch was the last back reel reel? Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted March 31, 2022 Author Super User Posted March 31, 2022 I know it won’t backreel, but it should thumbbar real good ? 2 1 Quote
Blaine Donders Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Is this a Tackle Warehouse exclusive? I do t see any where else? Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted March 31, 2022 Author Super User Posted March 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, Blaine Donders said: I think the drag is there, just the star is eliminated. You have to reach in and turn it behind the handle? Write-up I saw said no drag, period. Will have to wait and see as there are hints of conflicting info depending on what/where you read. 1 minute ago, Blaine Donders said: Is this a Tackle Warehouse exclusive? I do t see any where else? I wouldn't think so, but not released yet, so may just take some time to show up elsewhere. Found write-ups on the most recent BassBlaster and on the KK website. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 My frog reel has an on/off drag, but it didn't start out that way... 1 Quote
Blaine Donders Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, MN Fisher said: Nope - no drag. From KastKing "KastKing built the Speed Demon Deadbolt reel that is a real performance baitcasting reel with no drag. Let me repeat…no drag. There's no star drag. The fishing reel is locked down solid. There's no drag so there's no chance of your drag slipping or ever loosening up. " https://kastking.com/blogs/buying-guides-reviews/five-best-baitcasting-reels-for-2022 Interesting indeed! Now I want one…. Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 I like the idea, until I think of the giant flatheads that occasionally like to eat my jigs and trigs. Those beasts would turn a flippin stick into kindling if you couldn't get that thumbar down fast enough. 2 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 1, 2022 Global Moderator Posted April 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Deleted account said: My frog reel has an on/off drag, but it didn't start out that way... This is what I was thinking, it would be a pretty awesome frogging/flipping reel if nothing else. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 1, 2022 Super User Posted April 1, 2022 Somewhere I have an old Daiwa that had a backreel switch. It was from the late 80s or very early 90s. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted April 1, 2022 Super User Posted April 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, J Francho said: Somewhere I have an old Daiwa that had a backreel switch. It was from the late 80s or very early 90s. 1:1 direct drive, no drag, (if you don't count the palm of your hand) and no AR... (if you don't count the palm of your hand), 3 bushings, and 2 of them are in the knobs... I fish straight 60 lb mono, or 80 braid to 80 mono leader on em. 1 Quote
Tatulatard Posted April 1, 2022 Posted April 1, 2022 Does this reel actually have a drag and it is just always on lock down with no spring washers or is the handle actually fixed to the gears? Tacklewarehouse mentions 22lbs of drag. Quote
Alex Ball Posted May 5, 2022 Posted May 5, 2022 A friend of mine just got his. Loves it for flipping jigs. Says it so much better than the Megajaws 7.2 he has. Drag is locked, don't know how. 7.2 gear ratio. Says 18 on the drag on Amazon. Handled everything he caught no issues. Fishes heavy cover yoo-hoo water. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted May 5, 2022 Super User Posted May 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, Alex Ball said: Drag is locked, don't know how The main gear is probably keyed to the crankshaft. 3 Quote
Cbump Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 Any update on this reel in the real world? Watching cliff crochet wear them out using this reel, straight braid, topwater and flipping. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted April 13, 2023 Super User Posted April 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, Cbump said: Watching cliff crochet wear them out using this reel, straight braid, topwater and flipping. He was chirping about it during Takeout. Claimed to have had input during its design process if I remember correctly. Quote
Tatulatard Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 On 5/4/2022 at 8:31 PM, PhishLI said: The main gear is probably keyed to the crankshaft. I wonder if the drag is locked in that there aren't spring washers and the drag star is just tightened down and without star points to adjust. Flat washers in place of the spring washers and a locked down drag effectively. This is how one of the deps zillions was built. You can do this to any reel really. Just swap out the spring washers with flat ones plus a shim or two then crank down on the drag star. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted April 13, 2023 Super User Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Tatulatard said: I wonder if the drag is locked in there Just checked the KK website where they do post schematics, but I can't find this one. BTW, scroll through and you'll find they're doing some FFS platforms. Huh. Quote
JediAmoeba Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 This is such a strange concept to me... I am someone that runs drag much lighter than I need because I thumb the spool to regulate my drag. I don't understand why I would want 0 drag... 3 Quote
optimator Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said: This is such a strange concept to me... I am someone that runs drag much lighter than I need because I thumb the spool to regulate my drag. I don't understand why I would want 0 drag... That was my thought Quote
MiceNReets Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said: This is such a strange concept to me... I am someone that runs drag much lighter than I need because I thumb the spool to regulate my drag. I don't understand why I would want 0 drag... My understand is that it has drag. It’s set at full without adjustment since there no star drag. I think it just acts as if you have your drag cranked down fully 100% of the time. Just weird that they say there is no drag when the site claims it has 22lbs of drag or something. I dunno I forget. LoL but I’ve been known to be wrong. ??♂️ Quote
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