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5 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I use an Alberto knot.

Same here!

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I have not enjoyed either the process of trying to learn the FG knot, nor the results I have had from it, entirely possible that I'm just a big dumb Neanderthal and I am tying it wrong, but I have had great success with the GT knot, the usual disclaimers apply when dealing with FC, but it's never broken on me as long as I did my part and it's far less complicated to tie.

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19 minutes ago, Clumsy fisherman said:

Which is better for joining fluorocarbon to braid? I use the double uni, the FG looks very complicated.

I think if youā€™re talking spinning gear, the double uni is easier and works great. I learned to tie the fg for my baitcasters with tiny guides. Without googling the answer if youā€™re simply asking what knot is stronger Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s fg.Ā 

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3 minutes ago, Pogues2300 said:

I think if youā€™re talking spinning gear, the double uni is easier and works great. I learned to tie the fg for my baitcasters with tiny guides. Without googling the answer if youā€™re simply asking what knot is stronger Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s fg.Ā 

Thank you! I use spinning gear most of the time. the guides on my baitcasting ro are large enough for the double uni to go through. Nevertheless, if the fg knot is smaller, I may try to learn how to tie it.Ā 

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15 minutes ago, Sphynx said:

I have not enjoyed either the process of trying to learn the FG knot, nor the results I have had from it, entirely possible that I'm just a big dumb Neanderthal and I am tying it wrong, but I have had great success with the GT knot, the usual disclaimers apply when dealing with FC, but it's never broken on me as long as I did my part and it's far less complicated to tie.

I bet I am worse than you. I can get a backlash trying to spool line.

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Define ā€œbetterā€ā€¦

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If you like the double uni, stick with it. Many others like it, too. I refuse to use it given other knot options.

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35 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I use an Alberto knot.

Me, too!Ā 

I have no issues with this knot.

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After watching several how two videos on the FG knot I made the switch from the alberto for this year. Ott DeFoe has a simple and easy way of tying one. No teeth required.

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Double Uni is easy to learn easy to tie,Strong but is a fairly large knot does not work well with large diameter leaders FG knot is difficult to learn difficult to tie but is very strong and extremely small. I prefer the Alberto. It can be difficult to learn to tie properly but once learned is quick easy small and strong.

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Braid & leader (FC and Mono) is a spinning gear only deal for me.

Uni to uni has never let me down.

I run a relatively long leader often 20 ft plus, soĀ Re-tying often is part of my routine.Ā  Launching any knot through the rod guides over & over may wear on it, at least a little.

I feel better with a fresh connection.Ā  Old guy eyes and especially cold fingers, can make any knot a bit tricky to get right.

The good old Uni Knot is easy for me to tie, day or night and has been helping me put fish in the net for a while.

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A-Jay

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1 hour ago, Clumsy fisherman said:

Which is better for joining fluorocarbon to braid? I use the double uni, the FG looks very complicated.

I've heard many people "pros" say tie whatever knot you are comfortable tying. If you are comfortable tying a uni to uni, then that is going to be the best knot you can tie. This doesn't just apply for main line and leader knotsĀ 

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15 minutes ago, optimator said:

I use the Lefty Kreh knotĀ 

As do I. Simple to tie, hasnā€™t let me down yet and passes through my guides without an issue.Ā 

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X 5 on the Alberto knot. Easy and strong and Iā€™ve never had any issues.

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Is a uni-uni the same as a blood knot? Two opposing clinch knots?Ā 

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PE to either fluorocarbon or nylon mono-filament lines I find a 8 - 10 wrap Albright knot with a 1/2" PE tag to work quite well for small game (bass & walleye) use.

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I've done a lot of practice on many different braid to leader knots.Ā  Let me first say if you don't need to use the FG because of very small guide sizes, forget it.Ā  It was developed for heavy salt leaders and I really think it works better for those than for the pound tests we usually use.Ā  It is sensitive to coatings on the braid, and as you imply, the technique is not a piece of cake.

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The double uni is the easiest and probably the more reliable knot that I have used extensively.Ā  It can be a little large, so I don't use it with my micro guide rods.

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I use the Alberto, but my improved version of it.Ā  The Alberto is prone to fail (unravel) if the tag end doesn't go back out the leader loop in the right direction.Ā  I think I've had failures even when I've tied it right, so I improved it by tying two overhand knots tightly against the knot with the tag end of the braid.Ā  Doesn't make it any bigger, but never fails.Ā  Be sure on any knot you use to set the knot very tightly , VERY tightly, while it's wet.Ā Ā 

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The Lefty Kreh knot is easy to tie, especially with shorter leaders (the whole leader has to pass through the loop formed by the finger, and that can be a bit tedious for leaders like the 20 footer mentioned above. )Ā  It's also called by some the Seguar knot.Ā  I am so used to tying the Alberto, that I'm not changing.Ā  The Kreh knot is bigger than the Alberto but smaller than the double uni.

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3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Is a uni-uni the same as a blood knot? Two opposing clinch knots?Ā 

I don't think so.Ā  Doesn't look like that to me.Ā  Look them up on line, lots of images of all the knots being considered.

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The FG knot is smaller and stronger than most popular connection knots.Ā  However, while it is not impossible to learn, it is a hard knot to tie properly.Ā  Not only are there multiple steps, each step must be executed properly.Ā  Although this might sound like it is not worth the risk of using, it is not the case.Ā  By visually inspecting the knot after cinching, you can tell with certainty if the knot was tied properly.Ā  All the wraps constricted uniformly or they did not.Ā  There is no ambiguity.Ā  The main deterrent from using this knot is that it is a pain in the backside to learn.Ā  Even when you do learn it, it is kind tedious to tie.Ā  Also, it kind of hurts the hands to cinch down unless you buy a tool.Ā  With all that said, it is the only connection knot I use.Ā  Ā 

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10 minutes ago, MickD said:

I've done a lot of practice on many different braid to leader knots.Ā  Let me first say if you don't need to use the FG because of very small guide sizes, forget it.Ā  It was developed for heavy salt leaders and I really think it works better for those than for the pound tests we usually use.Ā  It is sensitive to coatings on the braid, and as you imply, the technique is not a piece of cake.

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The double uni is the easiest and probably the more reliable knot that I have used extensively.Ā  It can be a little large, so I don't use it with my micro guide rods.

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I use the Alberto, but my improved version of it.Ā  The Alberto is prone to fail (unravel) if the tag end doesn't go back out the leader loop in the right direction.Ā  I think I've had failures even when I've tied it right, so I improved it by tying two overhand knots tightly against the knot with the tag end of the braid.Ā  Doesn't make it any bigger, but never fails.Ā  Be sure on any knot you use to set the knot very tightly , VERY tightly, while it's wet.Ā Ā 

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The Lefty Kreh knot is easy to tie, especially with shorter leaders (the whole leader has to pass through the loop formed by the finger, and that can be a bit tedious for leaders like the 20 footer mentioned above. )Ā  It's also called by some the Seguar knot.Ā  I am so used to tying the Alberto, that I'm not changing.Ā  The Kreh knot is bigger than the Alberto but smaller than the double uni.

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I don't think so.Ā  Doesn't look like that to me.Ā  Look them up on line, lots of images of all the knots being considered.

Yeah, I figured I would only get my wires crossed looking them up online. Braid slips every time I try blood knot so I use AlbrightĀ 

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FG in the living room.Ā  Double Uni on the water.Ā Ā 

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1 hour ago, optimator said:

I use the Lefty Kreh knotĀ 

Does this mean you tie a loop on the main line and a loop on the leader and then join them using a loop to loop? Fly fishing rigs may do it that way.Ā 

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10 minutes ago, michaelb said:

Does this mean you tie a loop on the main line and a loop on the leader and then join them using a loop to loop? Fly fishing rigs may do it that way.Ā 

No. You lay a cut length of 6ā€™-8ā€™ long leader (say 10ā€) alongside the main line. You make a loop, stick your finger inside and make three twists, then pass the tag end of the main line and the remainder of the leader through the loop. Wet the knot, tighten and trim the tag ends.Ā 
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Itā€™s a knot that takes 30 seconds to tie. I normally tie about a 7ā€™ leader.Ā 

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