Clumsy fisherman Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 Which is better for joining fluorocarbon to braid? I use the double uni, the FG looks very complicated. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 I use an Alberto knot. 5 Quote
InfantryMP Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, J Francho said: I use an Alberto knot. Same here! 2 Quote
Sphynx Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 I have not enjoyed either the process of trying to learn the FG knot, nor the results I have had from it, entirely possible that I'm just a big dumb Neanderthal and I am tying it wrong, but I have had great success with the GT knot, the usual disclaimers apply when dealing with FC, but it's never broken on me as long as I did my part and it's far less complicated to tie. 1 Quote
Pogues2300 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, Clumsy fisherman said: Which is better for joining fluorocarbon to braid? I use the double uni, the FG looks very complicated. I think if youāre talking spinning gear, the double uni is easier and works great. I learned to tie the fg for my baitcasters with tiny guides. Without googling the answer if youāre simply asking what knot is stronger Iām pretty sure itās fg.Ā Quote
Solution Clumsy fisherman Posted March 31, 2022 Author Solution Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pogues2300 said: I think if youāre talking spinning gear, the double uni is easier and works great. I learned to tie the fg for my baitcasters with tiny guides. Without googling the answer if youāre simply asking what knot is stronger Iām pretty sure itās fg.Ā Thank you! I use spinning gear most of the time. the guides on my baitcasting ro are large enough for the double uni to go through. Nevertheless, if the fg knot is smaller, I may try to learn how to tie it.Ā Quote
Clumsy fisherman Posted March 31, 2022 Author Posted March 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Sphynx said: I have not enjoyed either the process of trying to learn the FG knot, nor the results I have had from it, entirely possible that I'm just a big dumb Neanderthal and I am tying it wrong, but I have had great success with the GT knot, the usual disclaimers apply when dealing with FC, but it's never broken on me as long as I did my part and it's far less complicated to tie. I bet I am worse than you. I can get a backlash trying to spool line. Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 Define ābetterāā¦ Ā If you like the double uni, stick with it. Many others like it, too. I refuse to use it given other knot options. 2 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, J Francho said: I use an Alberto knot. Me, too!Ā I have no issues with this knot. 1 Quote
nascar2428 Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 After watching several how two videos on the FG knot I made the switch from the alberto for this year. Ott DeFoe has a simple and easy way of tying one. No teeth required. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 Double Uni is easy to learn easy to tie,Strong but is a fairly large knot does not work well with large diameter leaders FG knot is difficult to learn difficult to tie but is very strong and extremely small. I prefer the Alberto. It can be difficult to learn to tie properly but once learned is quick easy small and strong. 4 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 Braid & leader (FC and Mono) is a spinning gear only deal for me. Uni to uni has never let me down. I run a relatively long leader often 20 ft plus, soĀ Re-tying often is part of my routine.Ā Launching any knot through the rod guides over & over may wear on it, at least a little. I feel better with a fresh connection.Ā Old guy eyes and especially cold fingers, can make any knot a bit tricky to get right. The good old Uni Knot is easy for me to tie, day or night and has been helping me put fish in the net for a while. A-Jay Ā 4 Quote
digitalvoid Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Clumsy fisherman said: Which is better for joining fluorocarbon to braid? I use the double uni, the FG looks very complicated. I've heard many people "pros" say tie whatever knot you are comfortable tying. If you are comfortable tying a uni to uni, then that is going to be the best knot you can tie. This doesn't just apply for main line and leader knotsĀ 4 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, optimator said: I use the Lefty Kreh knotĀ As do I. Simple to tie, hasnāt let me down yet and passes through my guides without an issue.Ā Quote
Super User GaryH Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 X 5 on the Alberto knot. Easy and strong and Iāve never had any issues. 2 Quote
Junger Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 FG at home, then when I break off, Alberto on the water. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 31, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 31, 2022 Is a uni-uni the same as a blood knot? Two opposing clinch knots?Ā Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 PE to either fluorocarbon or nylon mono-filament lines I find a 8 - 10 wrap Albright knot with a 1/2" PE tag to work quite well for small game (bass & walleye) use. Quote
Super User MickD Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 I've done a lot of practice on many different braid to leader knots.Ā Let me first say if you don't need to use the FG because of very small guide sizes, forget it.Ā It was developed for heavy salt leaders and I really think it works better for those than for the pound tests we usually use.Ā It is sensitive to coatings on the braid, and as you imply, the technique is not a piece of cake. Ā The double uni is the easiest and probably the more reliable knot that I have used extensively.Ā It can be a little large, so I don't use it with my micro guide rods. Ā I use the Alberto, but my improved version of it.Ā The Alberto is prone to fail (unravel) if the tag end doesn't go back out the leader loop in the right direction.Ā I think I've had failures even when I've tied it right, so I improved it by tying two overhand knots tightly against the knot with the tag end of the braid.Ā Doesn't make it any bigger, but never fails.Ā Be sure on any knot you use to set the knot very tightly , VERY tightly, while it's wet.Ā Ā Ā The Lefty Kreh knot is easy to tie, especially with shorter leaders (the whole leader has to pass through the loop formed by the finger, and that can be a bit tedious for leaders like the 20 footer mentioned above. )Ā It's also called by some the Seguar knot.Ā I am so used to tying the Alberto, that I'm not changing.Ā The Kreh knot is bigger than the Alberto but smaller than the double uni. Ā 3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Is a uni-uni the same as a blood knot? Two opposing clinch knots?Ā I don't think so.Ā Doesn't look like that to me.Ā Look them up on line, lots of images of all the knots being considered. Quote
Happybeerbuzz Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 The FG knot is smaller and stronger than most popular connection knots.Ā However, while it is not impossible to learn, it is a hard knot to tie properly.Ā Not only are there multiple steps, each step must be executed properly.Ā Although this might sound like it is not worth the risk of using, it is not the case.Ā By visually inspecting the knot after cinching, you can tell with certainty if the knot was tied properly.Ā All the wraps constricted uniformly or they did not.Ā There is no ambiguity.Ā The main deterrent from using this knot is that it is a pain in the backside to learn.Ā Even when you do learn it, it is kind tedious to tie.Ā Also, it kind of hurts the hands to cinch down unless you buy a tool.Ā With all that said, it is the only connection knot I use.Ā Ā Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 31, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, MickD said: I've done a lot of practice on many different braid to leader knots.Ā Let me first say if you don't need to use the FG because of very small guide sizes, forget it.Ā It was developed for heavy salt leaders and I really think it works better for those than for the pound tests we usually use.Ā It is sensitive to coatings on the braid, and as you imply, the technique is not a piece of cake. Ā The double uni is the easiest and probably the more reliable knot that I have used extensively.Ā It can be a little large, so I don't use it with my micro guide rods. Ā I use the Alberto, but my improved version of it.Ā The Alberto is prone to fail (unravel) if the tag end doesn't go back out the leader loop in the right direction.Ā I think I've had failures even when I've tied it right, so I improved it by tying two overhand knots tightly against the knot with the tag end of the braid.Ā Doesn't make it any bigger, but never fails.Ā Be sure on any knot you use to set the knot very tightly , VERY tightly, while it's wet.Ā Ā Ā The Lefty Kreh knot is easy to tie, especially with shorter leaders (the whole leader has to pass through the loop formed by the finger, and that can be a bit tedious for leaders like the 20 footer mentioned above. )Ā It's also called by some the Seguar knot.Ā I am so used to tying the Alberto, that I'm not changing.Ā The Kreh knot is bigger than the Alberto but smaller than the double uni. Ā I don't think so.Ā Doesn't look like that to me.Ā Look them up on line, lots of images of all the knots being considered. Yeah, I figured I would only get my wires crossed looking them up online. Braid slips every time I try blood knot so I use AlbrightĀ Quote
Super User Bankc Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 FG in the living room.Ā Double Uni on the water.Ā Ā Quote
michaelb Posted March 31, 2022 Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, optimator said: I use the Lefty Kreh knotĀ Does this mean you tie a loop on the main line and a loop on the leader and then join them using a loop to loop? Fly fishing rigs may do it that way.Ā Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted March 31, 2022 Super User Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, michaelb said: Does this mean you tie a loop on the main line and a loop on the leader and then join them using a loop to loop? Fly fishing rigs may do it that way.Ā No. You lay a cut length of 6ā-8ā long leader (say 10ā) alongside the main line. You make a loop, stick your finger inside and make three twists, then pass the tag end of the main line and the remainder of the leader through the loop. Wet the knot, tighten and trim the tag ends.Ā Ā Itās a knot that takes 30 seconds to tie. I normally tie about a 7ā leader.Ā 1 1 Quote
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