Do you really need to spend $100+ for a good rod?

[LrgmouthShad]

24 minutes ago, Jaderose said:

Really?  Not one person asks the obvious question?  *Sigh*...Guess it's up to me.....What the hell is "Booshi?"

I think he meant "Boujee". 

 

The Migos can help you understand it ?

 

 

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

think he meant "Boujee". 

Actually, it's 'Booshie'

From Urban Dictionary

 

Booshie

An effectation of a lifestyle, i.e., limited luxury and limited refinement aka, mannerisms, speech, dress, appearance, spending habits. Presentation as one who is above the general status quo for a particular race or ethnic group.

More commonly applied to one who has a ghetto upbringing, but because of further education and/or employment, shows no trace of that upbrining.

However, if pressured enough, the individual normally revert back to their ethnic upbringing.

As she stepped out of her designer shoes and removed her designer jewlery, she was heard to remark "Don't let this booshie fool you. I'm from the ghetto and will whoop your monkey ass!"

[LrgmouthShad]

2 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Actually, it's 'Booshie'

From Urban Dictionary

 

Booshie

An effectation of a lifestyle, i.e., limited luxury and limited refinement aka, mannerisms, speech, dress, appearance, spending habits. Presentation as one who is above the general status quo for a particular race or ethnic group.

More commonly applied to one who has a ghetto upbringing, but because of further education and/or employment, shows no trace of that upbrining.

However, if pressured enough, the individual normally revert back to their ethnic upbringing.

As she stepped out of her designer shoes and removed her designer jewlery, she was heard to remark "Don't let this booshie fool you. I'm from the ghetto and will whoop your monkey ass!"

Is this something not from my generation?? But it's on urban dictionary... 

 

Am I, a Gen X kid, currently being schooled about something on urban dictionary??

 

What is going on???

[QED]

Further to @MN Fisher's remarks above, "bourgeoisie" in French means middle class so the bourgeoisie (or its slang equivalents) won't typically be buying high end gear.

[Eric 26]

4 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Nope - I've yet to spend over $100 for any rod or reel.

 

Now saying that, I have 6 Fury rods; 2 Patriarch, 2 Fuego and 2 Supreme for reels...sales, and buying used (the Patriarchs) account for that.

I’m going to second and third this exact statement without reading any further?? Being patient definitely pays off.

[padon]

i like upper middle end rods. shimano expride, megabass, stcroix. do i catch more with them than 100 dollar rods? i have no idea. they just feel good in my hands. if i pick up a cheaper rod and it feels right for a certain technique and i just like the feel of it i buy it.

[jdr99a]

I put a dobyns champion rod (250ish) and a Shimano sellus (50ish) head to head one day when I was bored. Same line/reel/lure etc at the same spot and could certainly feel a substantial difference between the two. Instead of a generic ‘hard bottom’ feel with the sellus, I could feel the texture of the concrete with the champion. 
 

Does that translate into more fish? Maybe, maybe not. But it does give me confidence that I might be able to detect a bite a little bit faster - that makes it worth it to me. 

[gim]

I just bought a new St Croix Mojo that normally costs $140 but BPS was having their trade in sale so when I donated an older abu Garcia rod, I got 25 bucks off of it. $115 for this rod is a good deal.

 

Last week I also got a Shimano SLX for 85 bucks at Omnia. They are normally 100.

 

In total I saved 40 bucks on this setup. 40 bucks is 40 bucks. Who doesn’t like paying less?

 

If you look hard enough and you’re patient, you can sniff out a deal.

[WRB]

The price of everything today is higher then it was yesterday.

The state of the is similar to computers, wait 6 months and what you bought is obsolete.

Your old computer still works and so does rods and reels a few years old. What you bought last year is this years tomato stakes...if you listen to internet pros.

Ever fish in Mexico? You will see anglers using beer cans for rod and reel, the line wrapped around the can casting like a spinning reel and catch bass.

Always remember your finger tips are the most sensitive detector of strikes, rods can only deaden the line vibration, can’t intensify it.

Buy rods and reels that feel right to you within your budget.

Tom

[QED]

"Need" is a different thing from "want."  From what I can tell, the pros use good but not the highest end gear because the sponsors apparently have done the "race on Sunday, sell on Monday" analysis. If you like fine things, then the high end gear is great, but you don't need it to catch fish.

[Bird]

My SLX and Lew's custom is high end isn't it ?

 

[Linewinder]

I think we all know of the youngster using an inexpensive outfit and who happens to catch the big fish of the day... they don't pay much attention to the cost of the outfit.

[PhishLI]

8 hours ago, Alex Ball said:

 Any opinions here? Am I too green to tell? I started on $200+ rods. My Berkley Shock seems pretty dang similar

I'm not going to make a claim one way or the other on this topic. What I will say is that once I finally got my son in law to get a baitcaster, and after a casting lesson, he bought a Fuego CT after trying out several of my reels. Not wanting to push it any further I did not recommend a rod. On his own he bought a $39.99 6'6" MH Lighting Rod. Last year he absolutely wacked 'em throwing a football jig on straight 30 lb J-Braid 100% of the time in one of the clearest lakes we have here. Even got his PB of 7 1/2 pounds on it 45 minutes after he nabbed his previous PB of 6 and a few ounces. I guess it's possible he could've done better and felt more fish using a better rod, but he'll never know as he's superstitious and just bought a 2nd LR for his new CA80.

[Catt]

Who's holding the rod?

 

I don't care if you have a $1,000 rod it's only as good as your "sense" of feel. 

 

Then you have to add in ones ability to interpret what being felt.

 

What's transmitted up the line, down the rod, through the arm, is often lost in the brain.

 

FYI my Worm Rod is a Powell Inferno $99.99

[Johnbt]

Urban Dictionary definition Part 2 on the same page. Or maybe Part 1A...

 

Boo = bull

 

if you say it fast enough

 

I had to look it up, too.

______________

 

I have a 6' SC Premier MHF that's still great for up close fishing in the trees with anything from spinnerbaits to shiners.

I have 4 Conquests that fish like a dream. I even used the 844 one day to throw a DT-10 in 9 feet of water and caught 3 bass on 4 casts before the school of two- to four-pounders moved off. And that was with a Metanium MGL XG - the 8.5 ratio had that lure and the rod vibrating hard at full speed. 

My two favorite cranking rods are a GLoomis IMX Pro and Dobyns.

 

Everybody has their favorites. I started off with one casting rod and reel in the '50s and used it on through the '60s. I had a used tackle box, too.

 

[LrgmouthShad]

17 minutes ago, Johnbt said:

Urban Dictionary definition Part 2 on the same page. Or maybe Part 1A...

 

Boo = bull

 

if you say it fast enough

 

I had to look it up, too.

??

 

This one might end up underrated. That's funny

[The Maestro]

Depends on your definition of "good". There's high level pros fishing their sponsors' $100 rods and winning the biggest tournaments so you could say those rods and reels are "good enough" them even if they are getting paid to use the stuff.

[MN Fisher]

4 minutes ago, The Maestro said:

Depends on your definition of "good". There's high level pros fishing their sponsors' $100 rods and winning the biggest tournaments so you could say those rods and reels are "good enough" them even if they are getting paid to use the stuff.

Case in point - KVD mostly uses his own signature line of rods and reels - all priced around that $100 mark.

[The Maestro]

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

Case in point - KVD mostly uses his own signature line of rods and reels - all priced around that $100 mark.

I'm not really up to speed on the world of professional bass fishing but it seems like most of the high profile guys are running 'budget' or middle of the road equipment.

[Alex Ball]

16 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

Geez...

Every week this pops up out of nowhere.  There are options for everyone at any pricing point.

The discussion should be "What's the best value under$100, around $200 or $300, etc, etc..."
Comparing $30 gear with $300 equipment is ridiculous.

 

Not comparing so much as pointing out that the differences aren't always massive. A G Loomis blows the doors off just about anything I mentioned. I know that. This is more to see how others feel about it.

13 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Actually, it's 'Booshie'

From Urban Dictionary

 

Booshie

An effectation of a lifestyle, i.e., limited luxury and limited refinement aka, mannerisms, speech, dress, appearance, spending habits. Presentation as one who is above the general status quo for a particular race or ethnic group.

More commonly applied to one who has a ghetto upbringing, but because of further education and/or employment, shows no trace of that upbrining.

However, if pressured enough, the individual normally revert back to their ethnic upbringing.

As she stepped out of her designer shoes and removed her designer jewlery, she was heard to remark "Don't let this booshie fool you. I'm from the ghetto and will whoop your monkey ass!"

I laughed so hard!! I grew up in a warzone of a neighborhood. I most definitely present myself as above my upbringing. I will also revert and the booshie comes off. LoL. Awesome post.

 

12 hours ago, jdr99a said:

I put a dobyns champion rod (250ish) and a Shimano sellus (50ish) head to head one day when I was bored. Same line/reel/lure etc at the same spot and could certainly feel a substantial difference between the two. Instead of a generic ‘hard bottom’ feel with the sellus, I could feel the texture of the concrete with the champion. 
 

Does that translate into more fish? Maybe, maybe not. But it does give me confidence that I might be able to detect a bite a little bit faster - that makes it worth it to me. 

Ya for bottom contact, I'll stick with my Denalis. I can feel the subtle changes. Everything else can be less expensive. Got bit by the tackle monkey!

[Alex Ball]

14 hours ago, Jaderose said:

Really?  Not one person asks the obvious question?  *Sigh*...Guess it's up to me.....What the hell is "Booshi?"

My personal definition is this: I have a good job, but grew up obviously poor. I spend money on things that scream status. I do it because I can afford it and because I'll never forget having to skip bdays and Xmas to eat. It's pretty common with those who successfully get outta the hood without doing something illegal. I go home once a month and give away rods and reels to my old elementary school.

  It's also about countering the notion that banging is the way out. " I got everything he has, and I don't have to worry bout the 1 time (police)".

   This is my definition of booshie. 

[Alex Ball]

16 hours ago, 813basstard said:

How much do you fish? I’m not dialed in enough to really know the difference but I have found the more expensive stuff tends lasts longer and perform better while lasting. When you fish a lot or for money, or both, it makes a difference 

3-5 times a week if weather allows. I'm definitely more confident with my higher end stuff. Catch the same number of fish. Feels better. Just not $140 better imo.

[Alex Ball]

12 hours ago, WRB said:

The price of everything today is higher then it was yesterday.

The state of the is similar to computers, wait 6 months and what you bought is obsolete.

Your old computer still works and so does rods and reels a few years old. What you bought last year is this years tomato stakes...if you listen to internet pros.

Ever fish in Mexico? You will see anglers using beer cans for rod and reel, the line wrapped around the can casting like a spinning reel and catch bass.

Always remember your finger tips are the most sensitive detector of strikes, rods can only deaden the line vibration, can’t intensify it.

Buy rods and reels that feel right to you within your budget.

Tom

Hey I have a Modelo bassman! Traded a guy a Berkley Cherrywood near Cozumel for it and a good spot to fish. Best trade ever. Hung it up on my Dad's wall.

[padon]

you just buy what you want, what you like , and what you feel comfortable spending.im fortunate to have a good job. sometimes my job requires me to do things i really dont like. get out of bed at 2 am, deal with people who are lets just say not pillars of the community etc. so i reward myself with tackle that i like.others may be in a different position where they cant afford or just dont want to pay the higher prices.thats fine too. doesnt mean you cant catch plenty of fish , maybe more for that matter. there is good quality to be found at several price points.

[Alex Ball]

2 minutes ago, padon said:

you just buy what you want, what you like , and what you feel comfortable spending.im fortunate to have a good job. sometimes my job requires me to do things i really dont like. get out of bed at 2 am, deal with people who are lets just say not pillars of the community etc. so i reward myself with tackle that i like.others may be in a different position where they cant afford or just dont want to pay the higher prices.thats fine too. doesnt mean you cant catch plenty of fish , maybe more for that matter. there is good quality to be found at several price points.

Yessir!