ghost Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 Just curious if you use both magnetic and centrifugal brakes, or use just one or the other braking system. I use both, been tempted to just use either the magnetic or centrifugal. Since most Shimanos used centrifugal and Daiwas use magnetic, those dual braking reels should work with just one of the brake settings? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 25, 2022 Super User Posted March 25, 2022 In my experience - dual brakes work together to give you a better casting. Centrifugal work best at high spool speed - so give the most control at the beginning of the cast. Magnetic is constant, but gives the best help for control at the end of a cast - close to when the lure hits the water. My two Patriarchs - I set 3-on/3-off on the centrifugal, then start the mags at about 40% and adjust as needed for the lure I'm casting - the centrifugals are just left alone. Yes, you can use one or the other, but I use them both to give me maximum control and minimal backlashes. 5 Quote
Mojo Bass Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: In my experience - dual brakes work together to give you a better casting. Centrifugal work best at high spool speed - so give the most control at the beginning of the cast. Magnetic is constant, but gives the best help for control at the end of a cast - close to when the lure hits the water. My two Patriarchs - I set 3-on/3-off on the centrifugal, then start the mags at about 40% and adjust as needed for the lure I'm casting - the centrifugals are just left alone. Yes, you can use one or the other, but I use them both to give me maximum control and minimal backlashes. X2 what he said ^^ 50% of however many centrifugal brakes your reel comes with plus a small amount of magnetic brakes and she’s good to go Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 25, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 25, 2022 The best of both worlds is obviously having both as they work in concert with each other. I’ve found that a person’s casting style has a lot to do with how they benefit from each other. In my case all my reels have either centrifugal alone or both. I just can’t be effective or efficient with just magnetic brakes. If I’m gonna back lash it’s at the beginning as I’m controlling the cast with my thumb throughout the entire motion and landing. For me magnetic alone is useless and a non factor Mike Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 25, 2022 Super User Posted March 25, 2022 There used to be a kid in the neighborhood who rode his bike around with one training wheel... 5 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 25, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, Deleted account said: There used to be a kid in the neighborhood who rode his bike around with one training wheel... Yeah I knew a kid like that. Problem was he was always better turning in one direction but never fell off in the other. Mike 4 Quote
Tatulatard Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 Just set the reel up as a centrifugal and turn the magnets off unless you need them to help with control at the end of the cast. 1 Quote
Super User dodgeguy Posted March 25, 2022 Super User Posted March 25, 2022 4 hours ago, ghost said: Just curious if you use both magnetic and centrifugal brakes, or use just one or the other braking system. I use both, been tempted to just use either the magnetic or centrifugal. Since most Shimanos used centrifugal and Daiwas use magnetic, those dual braking reels should work with just one of the brake settings? That makes no sense. Centrifugal works at the beginning of of the case the magnetic work all during the cast. The best is enough centrifugal to stop instalash and then vary your magnets as needed. 1 Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 26, 2022 Posted March 26, 2022 Of course you could use one or the other but you paid for dual braking, why wouldn’t you take full advantage of what your equipment offers? 5 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted March 26, 2022 Super User Posted March 26, 2022 once again, here's the primer I wrote on the 3 types of backlash and 4 types of brakes Daiwa SV obviates the need for added centrifugal brake. In the case of most dual brakes, I've found the added centrifugal brake to be extra mass and interia that wouldn't be needed if it wasn't there to add to the spool mass and inertia. I hope this thing is on 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 26, 2022 Super User Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 10:13 AM, MN Fisher said: In my experience - dual brakes work together to give you a better casting. Centrifugal work best at high spool speed - so give the most control at the beginning of the cast. Magnetic is constant, but gives the best help for control at the end of a cast - close to when the lure hits the water. My two Patriarchs - I set 3-on/3-off on the centrifugal, then start the mags at about 40% and adjust as needed for the lure I'm casting - the centrifugals are just left alone. Yes, you can use one or the other, but I use them both to give me maximum control and minimal backlashes. Agree. The Patriarch XT that I use for fishing 10" unweighted ribbontail worms in Florida is set with one internal brake on and 3 on the external setting. That's the lowest brake setting of any of my reels outside of Magforce 3D. One of the reels I learned to cast #5 Shad Raps with was an older Carbonlite. Three internal brakes on and don't remember external brake setting. If you want only centrifugal brakes or magnetic brakes, then why buy a dual brake reel? Yeah! Dumb question. 1 Quote
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