How to tie the GT knot/the best braid to mono solution

[Dwight Hottle]

I was reading the daily FishingWire this morning & came across this video. What impressed me that this knot was tested by the IGFA in 2018 and was proven to be the strongest & most versatile using all different diameters & materials. I tried it and it came out great the first time. Super strong & a very small finished knot to pass through todays smaller guides. I have always relied upon a back to back uni for joining mono leaders to braid but this knot is quicker, easier, stronger & smaller. I was impressed. Take a look.

 

 

[roadwarrior]

 

 

                                                                      WOW!

[LrgmouthShad]

That is absolutely wild. Thank you for sharing. As far as I knew, FG knot was king. I will have to give this a try now. 

[MN Fisher]

Question being - how well does it go through guides...or come off the spool when you're using a long leader where the knot is buried in the reel a bit?

[Basseditor]

I think I know the answer, but what about flouro instead of mono?

[BrianMDTX]

That looks relatively easy to tie. I may have to try that. 

[Dwight Hottle]

2 hours ago, basseditor said:

I think I know the answer, but what about flouro instead of mono?

 

They didn't address flouro in the video so I guess you just need to give it try & draw your own conclusion. When I pulled it to test the knot strength it broke the 13lb mono leader about a foot away from the knot. I have personally watched IGFA employees test breaking strengths & they have pretty sophisticated equipment for testing. I trust their results.  

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Question being - how well does it go through guides...or come off the spool when you're using a long leader where the knot is buried in the reel a bit?

 

I haven't tried it yet just tested it this morning for breaking results. 

[EWREX]

i always like a knew leader knot. i'll have to give it a shot. curious how it is with fluoro

[garroyo130]

The mono/fluoro is doubled ... ill stick with FG

[Dwight Hottle]

5 minutes ago, garroyo130 said:

The mono/fluoro is doubled ... ill stick with FG

 

It wasn't doubled in the video. 

[garroyo130]

1 minute ago, Dwight Hottle said:

 

It wasn't doubled in the video. 

 

The knot at 2:53. I don't mean doubled to begin with but its doubled at the point of the knot.

[MN Fisher]

Just now, Dwight Hottle said:

 

It wasn't doubled in the video. 

Nope, just a figure-8 knot tied...no worse than tying any knot.

[garroyo130]

15 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Nope, just a figure-8 knot tied...no worse than tying any knot.

 

Right but that knot is being tied with the thicker of the lines, something that never happens with the FG.

[Lead Head]

A few things about this knot. 

This is not a true GT knot, it is a simplified version of the GT. The true GT is a fairly complex knot used in the salt. It is my understanding that the knot tested was the true GT, not this one. 

 

 

I still have great success using this knot with fluorocarbon. It hasn't given me any reason to switch to something else. When I have to break off, I fail at the lure. That tells me that even if it isn't a 100% knot, its giving me over 100% of what my line to lure knot can handle. 

 

A tip when tying this knot. Don't cinch them up super tight before joining them (like the guy in the video), just snug the knots, then join them, then cinch the knots tight, then the joint. If you really crank the knots tight before joining them, you get way too much friction.

[Ski]

Just tied this knot 3 times using 30# braid and 17# Fluro. I am impressed with the size (Smaller then) Alberto, easier to tie and definitely strong! Thanks

[tander]

Thanks for the video, I am going to have to try it, looks good!!

[michaelb]

Salt strong tested the gt vs the fg and the gt was much weaker. But the difference may have been the lines. I think the igfa results mentioned here are for 50 lb braid to 80 lb mono. Salt strong tested 10lb braid to 30.

 

plus there can be variations in how skilled someone is at tying each knot. The gt knot doubles the flouro/mono line into a knot so it cant be as small as the fg. 

[ChrisD46]

*I signed up for an on-line course offered by Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) on :  "How To Successfully Tie The FG Knot" ? ... Looks like I may not need the MIT FG knot course now after all (lol) ! 

[Team9nine]

13 hours ago, Lead Head said:

A few things about this knot. 

This is not a true GT knot, it is a simplified version of the GT. The true GT is a fairly complex knot used in the salt. It is my understanding that the knot tested was the true GT, not this one. 

 

 

I still have great success using this knot with fluorocarbon. It hasn't given me any reason to switch to something else. When I have to break off, I fail at the lure. That tells me that even if it isn't a 100% knot, its giving me over 100% of what my line to lure knot can handle. 

 

A tip when tying this knot. Don't cinch them up super tight before joining them (like the guy in the video), just snug the knots, then join them, then cinch the knots tight, then the joint. If you really crank the knots tight before joining them, you get way too much friction.

This ^^ , and the details in the previous post linked above, cover the story. The gentleman in the OP’s video is misleading, if not outright incorrect, as the knot version they show (quick and simple), is not the one the IGFA tested and proved stronger - that was the complicated Bimini version. And Salt Strong did test this version against the FG and it failed miserably.

 

That said, and as has been discussed here before, it might be a perfectly great knot for your application, because brute connecting knot strength rarely comes into play over the course of normal fishing. This is reflected by the large number of anglers here who swear by any number of different knots ‘never having failed them before’ in all of our previous knot threads.

[Bass Rutten]

Seems like a good knot but not the real gt knot.

[king fisher]

This not may pass the I GFA test but failed miserably in my test. Alberto far superior, FG even stronger yet, and hollow core splice only 100% connection. The knot showed is usually done with the Bimini twist in the braid figure Eight in the mono still inferior to FG.  While my test are not made with scientific equipment. They do include shock testing the knot as well as a steady pull.