Catching a record-breaking fish out of season

[detroit1]

Bummer for you Minnesota folk, no targeting pike, walleye, or bass until the middle of may ? Geeez!

[Deleted account]

4 hours ago, Skeeloco said:

Well according to the DEC spokesperson, the DEC will no longer ticket individuals taking pictures of out of season fish (article). So even though it may be that the rules, you're not going to get fined or jail for it.

Doesn't make it legal, kinda like I'll rob banks if I think I can get away with it. 

4 hours ago, J Francho said:

There's some misinformation propagating here.  First off, the black bass catch and release season applies to all but Region 5 (Franklin County) where targeting black bass is forbidden out of season.

Is the St Lawrence around Clayton ok to target bass in closed season/C&R or whatever they are calling it?

[J Francho]

I don't think so. 

[gim]

3 hours ago, detroit1 said:

Bummer for you Minnesota folk, no targeting pike, walleye, or bass until the middle of may ? Geeez!

Bass season used to open the weekend of Memorial Day until about 10 years ago, when they changed it so that you can specifically target them for catch/release when the primary gamefish season opens for walleye/northern pike (this year it opens on May 14).  Harvest of them is still not permitted until the Saturday prior to Memorial Day. So at least we did gain 2 weeks out of it.

 

Muskie season doesn’t open here until the second Saturday in June.

[roadwarrior]

Just more reasons to move.

 

 

                                              

[MN Fisher]

42 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

Just more reasons to move.

Unless you and some friends will finance it - it ain't happening....

[EWREX]

19 hours ago, Deleted account said:

Is the St Lawrence around Clayton ok to target bass in closed season/C&R or whatever they are calling it?

I highly doubt it. Our BASS Nation state team had questions regarding practice for the regional tournament we are fishing end of June and this was the answer we received..

 

"DURING THE OFF-LIMITS PERIOD JUNE 13-18 YOU MAY NOT BE ON THE ST LAWRENCE RIVER (US OR CANADIAN SIDE) BETWEEN THE EASTERN AND WESTERN TOURNAMENT BOUNDARIES.  DURING THE OFFICIAL PRACTICE AND COMPETITION, YOU MAY ONLY BE ON THE US SIDE TO FISH. IF YOU STRAY INTO CANADIAN WATERS WHILE NAVIGATING THE BORDER PORTIONS OF THE ST.LAWRENCE, YOU DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU MAY GET STOPPED BY CANADIAN OFFICIALS AND MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO RELEASE ALL SMALLMOUTH BASS, DUE TO THE CLOSED SEASON ON SMALLMOUTH IN CANADA."

[J Francho]

P. 65 in the guide I linked above has the details.  It's definitely off limits until 3rd Saturday in June around Clayton.

[Deleted account]

On 3/22/2022 at 1:02 PM, J Francho said:

P. 65 in the guide I linked above has the details.  It's definitely off limits until 3rd Saturday in June around Clayton.

Thanks. That is what I read before we headed up there, hoped it had changed. I'm old enough to remember when that was the case in all of NY.

[J Francho]

32 minutes ago, Deleted account said:

Thanks. That is what I read before we headed up there, hoped it had changed. I'm old enough to remember when that was the case in all of NY.

It wasn't that long ago it was closed.  The director of Region 5 will have to retire or something before they open up.  The official reason is that populations aren't strong enough to handle the fishing pressure.  Oy.

[Deleted account]

12 hours ago, J Francho said:

It wasn't that long ago it was closed.  The director of Region 5 will have to retire or something before they open up.  The official reason is that populations aren't strong enough to handle the fishing pressure.  Oy.

We moved from NYC to VA back in '98, only fished up that way maybe a dozen times a year since. Coincidentally, just got a text from my brother that his new fresh water buddies are going to school me on St Lawrence smallies in May, gonna be a good Christmas...

[ironbjorn]

Using a gun to kill something out of season and being busted for it and is about as far as things go anymore. Nobody cares about a guy throwing a line. Depending on where you are located your boat might be approached demanding a license but even that is rare. You shouldn't break the law but I'm just saying with confidence almost nobody cares and unless you're a spectacular idiot you'll never get in trouble.

 

Obligatory lol @ man trying to dictate a god given resource

 

 

 

[Deleted account]

10 hours ago, ironbjorn said:

Obligatory lol @ man trying to dictate a god given resource

AAAAA, The American Anarchist Anglers Association of America, you know MREs and ammo expire, so you should go in the bunker and rotate them out (FIFO) once in a while, yes?...  

[Boomstick]

On 3/21/2022 at 12:26 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

A guy in Oklahoma caught a record spoonbill but couldn't get it certified because it was on a day you couldn't keep them.

I have a neighbor who told me he tied the Vermont state record largemouth, but it was a few days before he could keep it. But there were some state guys working there and they saw him catch it and weighed it for him. This happened in a lake I lost an absolute giant too.

[Munkin]

Different states with different rules but I always wanted to know the answer to this. Merryland really doesn't care about any fish except stocked trout and stripers.

 

I do like that PA has a rule against bed fishing.

 

Allen

[N Florida Mike]

Good grief .

Glad  I live  in Florida …

[LCG]

On 3/21/2022 at 5:16 PM, detroit1 said:

Bummer for you Minnesota folk, no targeting pike, walleye, or bass until the middle of may ? Geeez!

Ontario zone 16 bass season opens 4th Saturday of June, pike mid may as well I believe  

[gim]

54 minutes ago, LCG said:

Ontario zone 16 bass season opens 4th Saturday of June, pike mid may as well I believe  

At this current rate, northern MN may still have ice by the middle of May.

[MN Fisher]

29 minutes ago, gimruis said:

At this current rate, northern MN may still have ice by the middle of May.

Wouldn't be the first time...or even the second.

 

There were a couple years when I lived in Bemidji that we were fighting ice-floes during walleye/pike opener.

[schplurg]

On 3/25/2022 at 6:05 PM, ironbjorn said:

Using a gun to kill something out of season and being busted for it and is about as far as things go anymore. Nobody cares about a guy throwing a line. Depending on where you are located your boat might be approached demanding a license but even that is rare. You shouldn't break the law but I'm just saying with confidence almost nobody cares and unless you're a spectacular idiot you'll never get in trouble.

 

Obligatory lol @ man trying to dictate a god given resource

 

 

 

If Man wasn't so good at destroying everything we wouldn't need these rules, whether it be crab, salmon, trout, clean air...each other.

 

Where I live the rules are taken seriously and I'm glad they are. I'd like to see much more enforcement.

 

I've been checked for barbless hooks and artificial bait where applicable, as well as my fishing license. I'd like to see people breaking these laws ticketed and repeat offenders banned from fishing. They are often the ones leaving the litter as well. There are too many jerks not to have rules, unfortunately.

[ironbjorn]

23 minutes ago, schplurg said:

If Man wasn't so good at destroying everything we wouldn't need these rules, whether it be crab, salmon, trout, clean air...each other.

 

Where I live the rules are taken seriously and I'm glad they are. I'd like to see much more enforcement.

 

I've been checked for barbless hooks and artificial bait where applicable, as well as my fishing license. I'd like to see people breaking these laws ticketed and repeat offenders banned from fishing. They are often the ones leaving the litter as well. There are too many jerks not to have rules, unfortunately.

I agree with limits so the bucket squatters don't destroy the fisheries more than they so often do in smaller waters. I personally strictly practice catch and release. People who litter are trash themselves. The problem I have is telling people when they can and can't catch a fish.

[garroyo130]

On 4/1/2022 at 9:55 PM, ironbjorn said:

The problem I have is telling people when they can and can't catch a fish.

 

I'm sure we'll get into a "they don't own the land thing" but "technically" its the state's land. They aren't telling people when they can and can't catch a fish, they are telling them when they can and can't catch a fish on their land ... don't like their schedule? fish private waters 

[gim]

On 4/1/2022 at 9:31 PM, schplurg said:

I'd like to see much more enforcement.

I think its safe to say that we would all like to see more of that.  There really isn't enough conservation officers or water patrol out there to enforce all of the existing laws.  People poach and litter because they think there is a remote chance of being caught.