Dobyns Xtasy DRX724c for spinnerbaits?

[DN3]

Looking at the Dobyns Xtasy DRX724c heavy/fast action casting rod….my understanding is that we’re designed as more of a bottom contact/jig/etc rod? Wondering if this model would also do well as a spinnerbait rod with some bladed jig/chatterbait  use as well? Will be my most expensive/high end rod by far…but curious to see if I can tell the difference between that and what I’ve used in the past 

[NavyToad]

I have a Kaden 714, Sierra 734, and a Champ XP 734, and I throw spinnerbaits and bladed jigs with all of them. The Dobyns 4 power can do so many things.

That said - call Dobyns.  1 (903) 919-8028 You can talk to a human.
They’re the experts on their rods and are very helpful.

[softwateronly]

2 hours ago, NavyToad said:

I have a Kaden 714, Sierra 734, and a Champ XP 734, and I throw spinnerbaits and bladed jigs with all of them. The Dobyns 4 power can do so many things.

That said - call Dobyns.  1 (903) 919-8028 You can talk to a human.
They’re the experts on their rods and are very helpful.

 

 

2 hours ago, DN3 said:

Looking at the Dobyns Xtasy DRX724c heavy/fast action casting rod….my understanding is that we’re designed as more of a bottom contact/jig/etc rod? Wondering if this model would also do well as a spinnerbait rod with some bladed jig/chatterbait  use as well? Will be my most expensive/high end rod by far…but curious to see if I can tell the difference between that and what I’ve used in the past 

 

This is great advice. 

 

My two cents, I have the DRX755 and it is fantastic and very different than the DC735 in my hands.  It is so light weight, it really feels like a MH in hand but has some real power once into the backbone.  When talking to the human, I'd bring up the question of a 4 or 5 power.

 

scott 

[WRB]

Spinnerbaits can be cast and fished effectively with several different power/action rods, not a presentation specific lure imo. 

Use the DRX724C for what it is designed for, jigs & worms.

Agree with contacting Dobyns.

Tom

[Rodney Smith]

I have had the XTasy 754. It is a MH at best. It has a soft top and was one of the best casting rods I’ve owned. I think it would be fine for most spinnerbaits. It is definitely not a true heavy IMO. I liked it as an all around rod, but didn’t love it as a jig and worm rod.

[DN3]

45 minutes ago, Rodney Smith said:

I have had the XTasy 754. It is a MH at best. It has a soft top and was one of the best casting rods I’ve owned. I think it would be fine for most spinnerbaits. It is definitely not a true heavy IMO. I liked it as an all around rod, but didn’t love it as a jig and worm rod.

Yeah I was thinking I’d use it as an all a round rod…I’m told Dobyns actions are usually a step down from what’s listed on the rod? Or at least they fish like it? 

[MN Fisher]

15 minutes ago, DN3 said:

Yeah I was thinking I’d use it as an all a round rod…I’m told Dobyns actions are usually a step down from what’s listed on the rod? Or at least they fish like it? 

The power is a step down - and that's pretty consistent for all Dobyns regular casting rods. The flipping rods and crank rods you can take the 'worded' power as it stands.

 

Drives me a bit buggy as the spinning rods are power rated 'correctly'. Why the 3-power spinning is labeled 'Medium' but the 3-power casting is rated 'Medium-Heavy' makes me shake my head as the line/lure stats are pretty much the same.

 

Far as action - I'd push the Dobyns down half a step - a Dobyns Fast is closer to a Mod-Fast.

 

Saying this - I love my Dobyns and with only a couple exceptions, most of my arsenal will end up being Dobyns rods.

[WRB]

What is the standard you base power-action on?

Comparing against G.Loomis legacy rods? St Croix legacy rods? Today both Loomis and SC very greatly between models, as does every other rod builder.

Dobyns started off using Lamiglas rod blanks that were nearly Identical to G.Loomis, both we’re designed by the same Gary Loomis.

The evaluation with bass rods is trying to create ease of casting with higher modules blanks that increase lure feedback, a complex combination.

Tom 

[MN Fisher]

37 minutes ago, WRB said:

What is the standard you base power-action on?

Action is harder to pin down, but power I base on line/lure stats

Let's take a selection of Medium-Heavy rods around 7' long of about the same price range

13 Omen Black: 12#-20# 3/8-1oz

Abu Garcia Veritas: 12#-20# 1/4-1oz

Daiwa Tatula: 10#-20# 1/4-1oz

Fenwick HMG: 10#-20# 3/8-1oz

Lews Custom Speed Stick: 12#-25# 1/4-7/8oz

St Croix Bass-X: 12#-20# 3/8-1oz

 

Now look at the Dobyns

Dobyns Fury/Sierra 703: 10#-17# 1/4-3/4 (labeled Medium-Heavy)

Dobyns Fury/Sierra 704: 10#-20# 1/4-1oz (labeled Heavy) - this is more in line with the others that are labeled Medium-Heavy

 

But Dobyns spinning rods.

Sierra 704: 10#-20# 1/4-1oz - labeled Medium Heavy.

 

Why the different 'words' for two rods with the same number/stats?

[WRB]

The original bass rod to use power rating was Fenwick as I recall in the 70’s, the bass rod were only 1 action; fast.. The power was based on lifting dead weight not lure ratings.

1 lb of lift power for each number before the rod bottomed out at 90 degrees.

1 power, 1 lb is light.

2 power, 2 lb is medium light.

3 power, 3 lb is medium.

4 power, 4 lb is medium heavy.

5 power, 5 lb is heavy.

6 power, 6 lb is extra heavy.

Gary Dobyns was a pioneer in offering specific application bass rods. Lamiglas used the Fenwick ratings for decades.

When you factor in actions other then fast the suggested lure weight usage changes. The typical lure rating 1/4 oz to 1 oz refers Jig & Worm MHF rod. The typical lure rating 3/8 oz to 3/4 oz refers to MHM crank bait rod. The typical lure rating for 1 oz to 4 oz lures rating refers to MHMF  swimbait rod.

Then we spinning rods with entirely different set of ratings. Trout rods, bass rods, crappie rods, walleye rods, Musky rods, inshore rods, off shore rods....

No standard exist.

Tom

 

[MN Fisher]

10 minutes ago, WRB said:

No standard exist.

Which is exactly why I don't pay attention to the 'words' and just look at line/lure ratings when picking out rods for general use.

Swimbait, Flip/pitch and Crank rods are whole different animals.

[Columbia Craw]

The answer to the OP’s question is yes, based on my experience with my 755. Fishing a nano resin based blank is a different animal.  Dobyns offers weight ranges for each model. The low ends and high ends are do able but not optimal. Look at the middle of the range and that is the optimum performance weight or the “sweet spot.”  That is a rule I apply to any purchase of a Dobyns rod. So far so good.

[DN3]

8 hours ago, Columbia Craw said:

The answer to the OP’s question is yes, based on my experience with my 755. Fishing a nano resin based blank is a different animal.  Dobyns offers weight ranges for each model. The low ends and high ends are do able but not optimal. Look at the middle of the range and that is the optimum performance weight or the “sweet spot.”  That is a rule I apply to any purchase of a Dobyns rod. So far so good.

 

I suppose ill try it as a do it all rod and see how it is....Ive got a dobyns champion extreme HP as well im going to try in addition to the xtasy.

8 hours ago, Columbia Craw said:

The answer to the OP’s question is yes, based on my experience with my 755. Fishing a nano resin based blank is a different animal.  Dobyns offers weight ranges for each model. The low ends and high ends are do able but not optimal. Look at the middle of the range and that is the optimum performance weight or the “sweet spot.”  That is a rule I apply to any purchase of a Dobyns rod. So far so good.

im out of it this morning - when you say middle range are you referring to the rod's power/action ratings?

[WRB]

Suggested lure weights; nominal weight by adding the 2 numbers and dividing by 2.

Jig & Worm rods can handle the maximum overall lure weights, jig + trailer, bullet weight + worm. The nominal weight for Jig and worm is the the jig weight less trailer or bullet weight less worm.

Interesting project is weighing jigs,  they rarely weigh the packaged weight.

Tom