Tracker Marine Lithium Battery

[Big Rick]

Curious if anyone has experience with this Tracker Marine Lithium Deep Cycle Battery. I'm looking to upgrade and these 60ah units look to be my size and power. I run a 80 lb Ultrex 24v on my 17.5 ft G3. I only have room for group 24 batteries. Any input or advice?

[MN Fisher]

Considering that most all lithium batteries are made in China - probably only at 2-3 facilities. Save some money and get one from another label...preferably a company that's been around a while.

 

Mighty Max is one - they've been in business for 16 years and they have a 75ah LiFePo for $399.

 

https://www.mightymaxbattery.com/shop/lifepo4/ml75-12li-12v-75ah-deep-cycle-lithium-battery/

 

https://www.amazon.com/Mighty-Max-Battery-ML75-12LI-Lithium/dp/B07YSXJJPG/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3K65IS9YXE2PE&keywords=mighty+max+lithium+75ah&qid=1647473168&s=electronics&sprefix=mighty+max+lithium+75ah%2Celectronics%2C126&sr=1-2

[GaryH]

2 hours ago, Big Rick said:

Curious if anyone has experience with this Tracker Marine Lithium Deep Cycle Battery. I'm looking to upgrade and these 60ah units look to be my size and power. I run a 80 lb Ultrex 24v on my 17.5 ft G3. I only have room for group 24 batteries. Any input or advice?

Whichever brand you pick you won’t regret it. Since I switched out to ionic lithium it’s incredible the the time you get out of them. I run a 36V Ultrex and can run it 10 hours with a lot being on spot lock and at the end of the day I’ll show 70% battery life.

Also there 125ah for cranking, 3 birds with mega 360, live wells and 2 Poles I haven’t gone under 80%. I went with ionic because a MinnKota precision charger works with them so no need to buy another charger. Good luck on your search.

[slonezp]

This is who makes Tracker lithium.

https://relionbattery.com/

[MN Fisher]

8 minutes ago, slonezp said:

This is who makes Tracker lithium.

https://relionbattery.com/

Based in the US - BUT

Relion are another US company, with an extensive range of Lithium batteries, 12V, 24V and 48V, all made in China,

https://www.pbo.co.uk/gear/lithium-batteries-for-boats-reviewed-12-of-the-best-lithium-boat-batteries-tested-62244

[gim]

1 hour ago, GaryH said:

I run a 36V Ultrex and can run it 10 hours with a lot being on spot lock and at the end of the day I’ll show 70% battery life

d**n. That is a long time. Do you routinely fish for 10 hours?

[GaryH]

8 hours ago, gimruis said:

d**n. That is a long time. Do you routinely fish for 10 hours?

Usually 8 to 10 unless the wife goes and then it drops to 4.

 

[MN Fisher]

16 hours ago, slonezp said:

This is who makes Tracker lithium.

https://relionbattery.com/

Another 'Made in China' LiFePo.

[Big Rick]

4 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Another 'Made in China' LiFePo.

True, but the relion comes with a better warranty. If that even means anything. 

 

I'm torn about ordering a battery online versus a brick and mortar purchase for warranty/issue purposes. 

[WRB]

I am the last person who will advise you to buy a Chinese product from BPS....if BPS has the battery and is close to you it makes sense.

Tom

[gim]

1 hour ago, Big Rick said:

I'm torn about ordering a battery online versus a brick and mortar purchase for warranty/issue purposes. 

I'd definitely lean towards an in-person purchase on that one for warranty purposes.  Plus I think some places give you a trade in value on your old battery too.

[Tennessee Boy]

There are countless companies selling essentially the same LiFePO4 batteries. I expect most of them will be gone in a few years making their warranties worthless.  I would expect BPS to honor the warranty even if the company that made the battery is out of business.  That’s the only advantage I would see to buying from BPS.  I’m sure you could get the same quality battery for a lot less.  The question is are you a gambler?

[MN Fisher]

6 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

even if the company that made the battery is out of business.

Well, with Brunswick purchasing Relion last fall - who knows.

Relion only formed in 2014.

 

[Tennessee Boy]

7 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Well, with Brunswick purchasing Relion last fall - who knows.

Relion only formed in 2014.

 

I didn’t know that.  Very interesting and surprising.  

[Dirtyeggroll]

I have the Tracker Lithium batteries. They work fantastically and if they have an issue I can walk right in and exchange one right off the shelf.

 

To those saying don’t buy “chinese made” batteries seriously just can it, downright ignorant and unuseful comments. 

[gim]

9 hours ago, Dirtyeggroll said:

I have the Tracker Lithium batteries. They work fantastically and if they have an issue I can walk right in and exchange one right off the shelf.

Honestly, that is a selling point that would trump almost anything else with many of my purchases.  A battery too.  The ability to simply take it back in to the retailer you bought it from for an immediate replacement would be a very important purchase decision in my book.

[MN Fisher]

6 minutes ago, gimruis said:

The ability to simply take it back in to the retailer you bought it from for an immediate replacement would be a very important purchase decision in my book.

Ya, that's a biggie in some cases. I'm looking at AGM's for the F-9 and like what Mighty Max has to offer.

 

And I can get them through the Lowes in Plymouth.

[flyfisher]

15 hours ago, Big Rick said:

True, but the relion comes with a better warranty. If that even means anything. 

 

I'm torn about ordering a battery online versus a brick and mortar purchase for warranty/issue purposes. 

Pretty much all the lithium batteries now have a decade warranty, you need to look at the fine print though.  

 

RELion for example is a pretty weak "warranty" in years 4-10  "Should the manufacturer deem a valid warranty claim exist and battery(s) are unable to be repaired in year one through three the manufacturer will replace the defective battery free of charge with a similar product. Should the manufacturer deem a valid warranty claim exist and battery(s) are unable to be repaired in years four and five a similar product will be offered at 20% off the retail MSRP listed at the time of the offer. Should the manufacturer deem a valid warranty claim exist and battery(s) are unable to be repaired in years six through 10 a similar product will be offered at 10% off the retail MSRP listed at the time of the offer."

Ionic, the battery I chose has this as their "warranty"

 

Period of Coverage: 

• First 30 days - Refund of original purchase price with return of battery
• 30 days to 5 Years (60 months) - LithiumHub will repair battery free of charge.  If repair is not possible battery replacement will be provided.
• 5 years to 8 years (61 months to 96 months) - LithiumHub will repair or replace battery with a service charge of $150 per battery.
• 8 years to 11 years (97 months to 132 months) - Replacement discount offer of 30% on a similar product valid for 30 days from notification.

[slonezp]

China currently produces more than double the "clean" lithium than we do. It is my understanding that Elon Musk has purchased land out west and will be getting into the lithium mining business. 

[MN Fisher]

10 minutes ago, slonezp said:

China currently produces more than double the "clean" lithium than we do. It is my understanding that Elon Musk has purchased land out west and will be getting into the lithium mining business. 

In terms of overall lithium mining - 2021 figures

Australia - 55k tons

Chile - 26k tons

China - 14k tons

 

USA produced only 1% of all the lithium mined last year.

"But today, the U.S. is far behind, with only 1% of global lithium being mined and processed in the U.S., according to the U.S. Geological Survey."

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/15/how-the-us-fell-way-behind-in-lithium-white-gold-for-evs.html

[Tennessee Boy]

I saw a story on TV many years ago about this huge salt flat in Chile that is full of Lithium.  It was interesting.  Apparently Chile has a lot of Lithium.

 

https://www.usgs.gov/media/before-after/lithium-mining-salar-de-atacama-chile

[slonezp]

The reasons we are not producing lithium here are the same reasons we cut oil production and coal. The US could be completely independent and self sufficient in all aspects of life if the powers that be wanted it that way. I'll leave it at that. 

[GaryH]

2 hours ago, slonezp said:

The reasons we are not producing lithium here are the same reasons we cut oil production and coal. The US could be completely independent and self sufficient in all aspects of life if the powers that be wanted it that way. I'll leave it at that. 

Amen…

[TnRiver46]

2 hours ago, slonezp said:

The reasons we are not producing lithium here are the same reasons we cut oil production and coal. The US could be completely independent and self sufficient in all aspects of life if the powers that be wanted it that way. I'll leave it at that. 

I’ve been buying junk from China my whole life, it’s fairly unavoidable and they do make some decent stuff for cheap. 

[Dirtyeggroll]

3 hours ago, slonezp said:

The US could be completely independent and self sufficient in all aspects of life if the powers that be wanted it that way. I'll leave it at that. 

This thread is getting derailed. Can a mod just put it out of its misery? There are other forums for this kind of crap.