Am I nuts buying Tatsu ?

[jbsoonerfan]

6 minutes ago, CrashVector said:

 

As I said I only used it for about 3 hours, and perhaps with using it more it'll soften up a bit, sorry if my initial impressions didn't match your confirmation bias, but the truth is that it's no better than I thought it would be...at least so far.

 

I'm sure you would be much less of a smart-ass if I came back and said hey man it's great.

 

That seems to be the problem with you and a lot of people on this site, you disagree with them and they automatically write you off as being incorrect or not knowing what you're  talking about despite the fact that I've been fishing for 40 years and I catch more fish in a week than most people catch in a month.

 

Everyone has their opinions, Im no different. My initial impression was that it was absolutely garbage line, but I went out spent the money on it and am willing to keep using it to see if my opinion changes.

 

But, because my opinion does not match yours based on the fact that fluorocarbon is fluorocarbon and has certain physical properties of fluoro carbon, you made a snide comment attempting to write my opinion off as invalid because it doesn't match yours.

It's more than likely your overall attitude, not the fact that you disagree with people. You bashed it before you ever used it. Of course you were going to stand by your comments and report back that it was no better than the cheap stuff. 

[CrashVector]

11 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

It's more than likely your overall attitude, not the fact that you disagree with people. You bashed it before you ever used it. Of course you were going to stand by your comments and report back that it was no better than the cheap stuff. 

 

Obviously you don't know me that well then, as I have bashed several Garcia products because they didn't live up to the hype.

 

If it had worked as well as everyone was making it sound like it should, I absolutely would have come back and been totally thrilled to say hey this line is awesome I'm going to leave it on my reels I'm even going to buy another spool and put it on another setup for a finesse work because it's great.

 

The same way I changed my opinion on Hercules braid after reading several reviews here of it, I thought it would be just the same as any other eight carrier braid and so no reason to try it until I went out and bought a spool of it and ate my words.

 

Im absolutely a science guy, when it comes to my career and when it comes to my hobbies. I follow the actual data regardless of whether or not it matches my initial opinion, and yes, I have been wrong before and am more than happy to say so when I am because I don't see being wrong as some sort of weakness or failing, I see it as being willing to follow the actual empirical data.

 

My attitude here is no different than my attitude while I'm at work in the emergency room, if I'm doing something a certain way, and you come along and tell me no do it this way it's better, my answer as well as the answer of everyone else in the room will be "Prove it and explain to me why it's better and will produce better results." And you better have the data to back it up.  That is not seen as having a poor attitude, that is seen as responsible duty.

[A-Jay]

36 minutes ago, CrashVector said:

 

As I said I only used it for about 3 hours, and perhaps with using it more it'll soften up a bit, sorry if my initial impressions didn't match your confirmation bias, but the truth is that it's no better than I thought it would be...at least so far.

 

I'm sure you would be much less of a smart-ass if I came back and said hey man it's great.

 

That seems to be the problem with you and a lot of people on this site, you disagree with them and they automatically write you off as being incorrect or not knowing what you're  talking about despite the fact that I've been fishing for 40 years and I catch more fish in a week than most people catch in a month.

 

Everyone has their opinions, Im no different. My initial impression was that it was absolutely garbage line, but I went out spent the money on it and am willing to keep using it to see if my opinion changes.

 

But, because my opinion does not match yours based on the fact that fluorocarbon is fluorocarbon and has certain physical properties of fluoro carbon, you made a snide comment attempting to write my opinion off as invalid because it doesn't match yours.

Perfect.

A-Jay

[CrashVector]

2 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

Perfect.

A-Jay

 

The assassin FC is better imo.  It still kinda jumped off the spool a bit, but seemed to "settle down" after a few casts.

[A-Jay]

2 minutes ago, CrashVector said:

 

The sniper FC is better imo.

Fair enough.

A-Jay

[LrgmouthShad]

1 hour ago, CrashVector said:

BUT...some observations I have ARE valid.

 

1 hour ago, CrashVector said:

ANYONE saying tatsu has about the same memory as mono is outright lying

Crash, I understand the gist of your post and you honestly trying tatsu out to see if you like it. Perhaps it was just poor choice of words, but these couple of sentences is where you made it difficult for people who want to give their point of view, too, since you are saying here that they are lying. 

 

Just relax man. OP may want to report back on how he likes Tatsu too if he tries it.

[T-Billy]

And this weeks train wreck of the week goes to...

[gim]

I've never used Tatsu.  Until recently, I've never even heard of it.  It seems over priced to me too.  It has very good reviews from a lot of people, especially on this forum, so I am willing to try it sometime.  BR member reviews on specific products are about as good as it gets for me in the fishing realm, other than talking to someone I personally know.

 

@CrashVector I commend you for at least trying it.

[The Maestro]

I bought a spool of 15lb to try out for this season. I use straight braid for just about everything and still catch a lot of fish. I've tried other FC lines and hated them. I'm giving it one more chance but unless it's noticeably better than braid I probably won't keep using it.

[CrashVector]

1 hour ago, gimruis said:

I've never used Tatsu.  Until recently, I've never even heard of it.  It seems over priced to me too.  It has very good reviews from a lot of people, especially on this forum, so I am willing to try it sometime.  BR member reviews on specific products are about as good as it gets for me in the fishing realm, other than talking to someone I personally know.

 

@CrashVector I commend you for at least trying it.

 

I'm going to try it out for the next few weeks to see if my opinion changes, and if it does I will certainly come back and say so.

59 minutes ago, The Maestro said:

I bought a spool of 15lb to try out for this season. I use straight braid for just about everything and still catch a lot of fish. I've tried other FC lines and hated them. I'm giving it one more chance but unless it's noticeably better than braid I probably won't keep using it.

 

I too use straight braid on pretty much everything.  I can solve this for you right now, it's not better than braid LOL!

[Aaron_H]

On 3/13/2022 at 3:32 PM, A-Jay said:

15 lb Tatsu is a bit pricey on TW - unless you have a coupon.

Amazon is almost always cheaper 

https://www.amazon.com/Seaguar-200-Yard-Fluorocarbon-Fishing-15-Pound/dp/B003OAVUMK/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3J8W3BG6H96MX&keywords=seaguar%2Btatsu%2B15&qid=1647199819&sprefix=seaguar%2Btatsu%2B15%2Caps%2C86&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1

 

A-Jay

 

 

(on a more light hearted note)

 

I realize that's a good deal for Tatsu but man, I am not rich enough for that. WHEW.

[CrashVector]

42 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

 

Crash, I understand the gist of your post and you honestly trying tatsu out to see if you like it. Perhaps it was just poor choice of words, but these couple of sentences is where you made it difficult for people who want to give their point of view, too, since you are saying here that they are lying. 

 

Just relax man. OP may want to report back on how he likes Tatsu too if he tries it.

Allow me to rephrase:. It's not as manageable as mono, and has much more memory than premium mono lines 

3 minutes ago, Aaron_H said:

 

 

(on a more light hearted note)

 

I realize that's a good deal for Tatsu but man, I am not rich enough for that. WHEW.

 

Yeah...it was $49.99 for 200yds of 12lb.

 

For $50, I'd expect it to be the best mono line on the planet, plus give me a back rub when I was done catching fish.

[MickD]

Original question:  Am I nuts for buying Tatsu?

 

Answer:  Yes

[PhishLI]

 

15 hours ago, CrashVector said:

The assassin FC is better imo.  It still kinda jumped off the spool a bit, but seemed to "settle down" after a few casts.

See, you can be reasonable without trotting out your angry guy act. No need to be a total DH when you disagree. 

 

BTW, I ordered some 15lb Tatsu on sale recently. I'm waiting until it's warmer out to give it a whirl, cause I'm smart...Not like everybody says, like dumb. I'm smart and I want respect!-FC

 

The guy who posted the sale deal on the Tatsu happens to have rendered an opinion on a reel I like very much which runs contrary to my experience. While what he said struck me as odd, or even absurd, I 'aint mad. I didn't even try to straighten him out. See, just like me you can interpret things differently than someone else and keep a grip on yourself. All it takes is a bit of interweb communication skill and a little restraint. Yes, there are facts, but there's also plenty of room for subjectivity. Very few things are totally black and white.

 

P.S. Now go apologize to poor @A-Jay before everyone ends up hating you.

[A-Jay]

3 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

 

See, you can be reasonable without trotting out your angry guy act. No need to be a total DH when you disagree. 

 

BTW, I ordered some 15lb Tatsu on sale recently. I'm waiting until it's warmer out to give it a whirl, cause I'm smart...Not like everyone says, like dumb. I'm smart and I want respect!-FC

 

The guy who posted the sale deal on the Tatsu happens to have rendered an opinion on a reel I like very much which runs contrary to my experience. While what he said struck me as odd, or even absurd, I 'aint mad. I didn't even try to straighten him out. See, just like me you can interpret things differently than someone else and keep a grip on yourself. All it takes is a bit of interweb communication skill and a little restraint. Yes, there are facts, but there's also plenty of room for subjectivity. Very few things are totally black and white.

 

P.S. Now go apologize to poor @A-Jay before everyone ends up hating you.

It's all good.

If anyone needs to apologize it's me.

And I certainly do.

Disagreement isn't disrespect, until it is presented that way.

I know better.

A-Jay

[dodgeguy]

1 hour ago, CrashVector said:

Allow me to rephrase:. It's not as manageable as mono, and has much more memory than premium mono lines 

 

Yeah...it was $49.99 for 200yds of 12lb.

 

For $50, I'd expect it to be the best mono line on the planet, plus give me a back rub when I was done catching fish.

I paid 30$ a spool for 15 lb 200yds

[CrashVector]

11 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

 

See, you can be reasonable without trotting out your angry guy act. No need to be a total DH when you disagree. 

 

BTW, I ordered some 15lb Tatsu on sale recently. I'm waiting until it's warmer out to give it a whirl, cause I'm smart...Not like everyone says, like dumb. I'm smart and I want respect!-FC

 

The guy who posted the sale deal on the Tatsu happens to have rendered an opinion on a reel I like very much which runs contrary to my experience. While what he said struck me as odd, or even absurd, I 'aint mad. I didn't even try to straighten him out. See, just like me you can interpret things differently than someone else and keep a grip on yourself. All it takes is a bit of interweb communication skill and a little restraint. Yes, there are facts, but there's also plenty of room for subjectivity. Very few things are totally black and white.

 

P.S. Now go apologize to poor @A-Jay before everyone ends up hating you.

 

I started out cordial until I was verbally attacked for stating my opinion.

 

I will not apologize for standing up for my opinion or for myself.  I backed down and went bought the stuff and will give it an honest shake like I do everything else.

 

For the record though, the assassin is in 8lb on a maxpro 20 spinning reel.  It's wirey, but manageable.  At least it's not astronomically expensive like the tatsu, but I've yet to see the benefit over a good clear mono.

 

I'm gonna use it for a few weeks on some finicky bass and see what happens.

 

2 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

I paid 30$ a spool for 15 lb 200yds

 

Where?

[JustJames]

I don’t know about you but if I spent that much on a line for bass, I would call myself super nut. I don’t fish for money or trophies so just good enough FC (Seaguar red label/abrazx ) or Copolymer (Izorline/hybrid) works for me.
For crappie and if I have to spend that much to gain just 15-20yds distance, I would.
 

[dodgeguy]

1 hour ago, CrashVector said:

 

I started out cordial until I was verbally attacked for stating my opinion.

 

I will not apologize for standing up for my opinion or for myself.  I backed down and went bought the stuff and will give it an honest shake like I do everything else.

 

For the record though, the assassin is in 8lb on a maxpro 20 spinning reel.  It's wirey, but manageable.  At least it's not astronomically expensive like the tatsu, but I've yet to see the benefit over a good clear mono.

 

I'm gonna use it for a few weeks on some finicky bass and see what happens.

 

 

Where?

Sportsmansoutfitters.com      I also had a 10$ earned coupon to bring it down.got free shipping and no tax.

[CrashVector]

59 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

I don’t know about you but if I spent that much on a line for bass, I would call myself super nut. I don’t fish for money or trophies so just good enough FC (Seaguar red label/abrazx ) or Copolymer (Izorline/hybrid) works for me.
For crappie and if I have to spend that much to gain just 15-20yds distance, I would.
 

 

Just my being intellectually honest.  Using the line and reporting my results.  No more..no less.

[T-Billy]

12 hours ago, PhishLI said:

I'm smart...Not like everyone says, like dumb. I'm smart and I want respect!-FC

You ARE smart. VERY SMART!!! We all respect you a great deal for being that smart. ?

12 hours ago, A-Jay said:

It's all good.

If anyone needs to apologize it's me.

And I certainly do.

Disagreement isn't disrespect, until it is presented that way.

I know better.

A-Jay

This is why we love you ????!!!

[PhishLI]

1 hour ago, T-Billy said:

?

 

[T-Billy]

34 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

 

Re......spect.

[LrgmouthShad]

4 minutes ago, T-Billy said:

Re......spect.

Pantera... loud and heavy ?

[BassNJake]

I've always liked Gamma edge.

I've tried a bunch of flouros with varied success and some user error

Currently using various Sunline products(sniper and super)

 

I use flouro for cranking because it sinks, for feel and for abrasion resistance* as I'm always grinding my cranks along the bottom. *as soon as I feel the tiniest abrasion, I retie*

I also use flouro for fishing deep and clear applications

Fishing deep I want the line to sink, I feel this leads to the lure having less of a pendulum effect and I feel the line is much more sensitive especially the deeper you go

I also use a very short flouro leader when toad fishing, it acts like a shock absorber and I seem to have a much better hook up ratio

 

I also had a personal experience on Lake Erie where I couldn't feel/get a bite until I started using my partners rod with flouro on it. ( I was even using a lighter lb test mono)

 

When I fish at chickamauga or at guntersville I never use flouro except as the shock absorber 

So if I fished stained or weedy water I wouldn't have a need

but since I fish deep clear rocky water- fluorocarbon gets a lot of use