Am I nuts buying Tatsu ?

[king fisher]

Floro will last a long time making it cost effective only if you don’t change lures and retie often. I have to respool often not because the line goes bad but because after removing frayed sections and retying the amount of line on my reel gets low. If you have many specialized rods and don’t change lures often the cost is not so bad.

[ironbjorn]

It's barely better than Invizx imo, and fluoro stinks. So that's a yes from me lol. ?

[gim]

I’ve never even seen it on the shelf. I’ve been in a fleet farm, Cabela’s, and Scheels the past 2 weeks. Tons of other line and Seaguar fluoro, just not that particular one.

[newapti5]

For better deals on it, you could either wait for Amazon deals, or search the auction site. Last year I got 2 spools for$52.

[evo2s197]

On 3/13/2022 at 1:10 PM, Team9nine said:

3 years use

3 years on a reel? I replace my Flourocarbon at least 4 times a year per reel.

[FishTank]

On 3/14/2022 at 10:24 PM, evo2s197 said:

3 years on a reel? I replace my Flourocarbon at least 4 times a year per reel.

 

Last year I changed out some 12lb Tatsu on my main Texas Rig set up.  It had been on there for 4 years and used each weekend during the tournament season. I only changed it because the spool was getting low. I have another set up that I use for light punching and heavy Texas Rigged soft plastic.  This will be it's third season.  I also use Invizx but I have yet to have it last longer than a whole year.  Tatsu, if I don't blow the reel up, has proven to be great line and actually a good value over time (if I don't pay full price). 

[dodgeguy]

On 3/14/2022 at 3:09 AM, newapti5 said:

For better deals on it, you could either wait for Amazon deals, or search the auction site. Last year I got 2 spools for$52.

I got it at sportsman's outfitters for 60$ for 2 spools 15lb test 200 yds with coupon.no tax free shipping.

[FishTank]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

I got it at sportsman's outfitters for 60$ for 2 spools 15lb test 200 yds with coupon.no tax free shipping.

That's a good deal. ? 

[Bluebasser86]

I had about given up on flouro until I tried Tatsu. First time out I had a fish run my T-rig through the heart of a big tree with 15lb test. Never thought I'd ever see it but it wrestled her back through it all. 

 

I change mine out a couple times a year usually but I only spool about 50 yards at a time so I'm getting 4 spools of line off each spool of Tatsu, makes it more palatable. 

[CrashVector]

I think so, but that's my opinion.

 

Fluorocarbon is a waste of money in my opinion.

 

 

[jbsoonerfan]

1 minute ago, CrashVector said:

Fluorocarbon is a waste of money in my opinion

Abrasion resistance is worth it to me. Braid is not great in rocks or wood (it slides in it too easily). It is far superior to mono in sensitivity, also just IMHO.

 

I don't use fluoro often, but it has its place and if you don't need it, then I completely understand, but to say it's a waste of money is not taking all factors into consideration.

[CrashVector]

5 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Abrasion resistance is worth it to me. Braid is not great in rocks or wood (it slides in it too easily). It is far superior to mono in sensitivity, also just IMHO.

 

I don't use fluoro often, but it has its place and if you don't need it, then I completely understand, but to say it's a waste of money is not taking all factors into consideration.

 

If I need the extra sensitivity, I go to trilene sensation.

 

I admit that I use braid on almost all my combos, but people make it sound like mono is like lidocaine for fishing.  It's not.

 

I didn't have a problem feeling fish on mono back when it was all we had, and the marginally increased sensitivity of fluoro isn't worth the massive price tag.

 

It IS more abrasion resistant than either, and if I were fishing around lots of rock, riprap, etc I'd use it for that.

[jbsoonerfan]

5 minutes ago, CrashVector said:

 

If I need the extra sensitivity, I go to trilene sensation.

Okay, sounds good. Comparing a $12 spool of 330 yds to a $40 spool of 200 yds that you have NEVER used just proves a lot of our points. Those that have actually used it, thinks it is worth it. Those who haven't, not even sure why they have an opinion. 

 

So, tell me you have never used Tatsu without telling me you have never used Tatsu. That's the problem with the internet, people give an opinion with ZERO experience with the product. I don't comment on Daiwa reel threads because I haven't used one since about 2010. I only comment on products that I have experience with. 

 

But continue to tell people they are wasting their money on something you have absolutely no experience with. 

[CrashVector]

Haven't used tatsu.  I HAVE used at least a dozen other brands of fluoro.

[jbsoonerfan]

Just now, CrashVector said:

Haven't used tatsu.  I HAVE used at least a dozen other brands of fluoro.

A dozen, that's a bunch. Just guessing....probably all cheap ones. This thread is about Tatsu. I have used Invizx, Shooter and Sniper, along with Tatsu and they are great lines. 

 

This would be like a softball forum and a parent asking about a Rawlings heart of the hide glove (about a $400 glove) and people posting that Rawlings gloves are junk because they went to Wal-Mart and bought a cheap one that fell apart. 

[Bluebasser86]

Flouro is a big time "You get what you pay for", product IMO. I've had decent success with lower end products from Seaguar, Sunline, and Vicious, but occasional issues made the benefits marginal. When I tried high end lines like Tatsu, Shooter, and Gamma Edge, that's when I really got to experience the benefits of a flouro line. There's some good middle of the road lines also, but the top end is worth spending the extra on. I only use it for what I view it as it's true strength, bottom contact baits. It's a waste of money using it for anything else IMO. A good mono or copolymer can do the job that a lot of people use fluoro for, line cranking or jerkbaits. 

[CrashVector]

2 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

A dozen, that's a bunch. Just guessing....probably all cheap ones. This thread is about Tatsu. I have used Invizx, Shooter and Sniper, along with Tatsu and they are great lines. 

 

This would be like a softball forum and a parent asking about a Rawlings heart of the hide glove (about a $400 glove) and people posting that Rawlings gloves are junk because they went to Wal-Mart and bought a cheap one that fell apart. 

 

 

Tell you what I'm gonna do: tomorrow morning, I'm going buy a 200 yd spool of tatsu in 12lb and put it on my Revo S combo and go catch a bunch of fish.

 

IF it's better than the other fluorocarbon lines I've used, I'll come back and admit I was wrong..because hey...at least id have very expensive abrasion resistant line, plus clear line looks badass on my all-white Revo S/Veritas combo, so there's that too.

 

If not though...then my opinion remains.

 

Invizx was terrible.  The amount of memory was like spooling copper wire on my reel.

 

Because I'm honest, I'll add this somewhat off-topic quip about Trilene sensation:. It had worse line memory than Trilene Big Game...enough that I took it off all the spinning reels I had it on, and now, despite having two full spools of it, I can't see me really using it again.

 

[ironbjorn]

I would ask if Pure Fishing pays him, but sometimes it might seem like Dobyns pays me (they don't) lol. Everyone has their brands.

[CrashVector]

1 minute ago, ironbjorn said:

I would ask if Pure Fishing pays him, but sometimes it might seem like Dobyns pays me (they don't) lol. Everyone has their brands.

 

Some would say that about me and Abu Garcia since I mostly use their rods and reels, even though I own many others by Shimano, Shakespeare, and Diawa.

[A-Jay]

5 hours ago, CrashVector said:

Tell you what I'm gonna do: tomorrow morning, I'm going buy a 200 yd spool of tatsu in 12lb and put it on my Revo S combo and go catch a bunch of fish.

 

IF it's better than the other fluorocarbon lines I've used, I'll come back and admit I was wrong..because hey...at least id have very expensive abrasion resistant line, plus clear line looks badass on my all-white Revo S/Veritas combo, so there's that too.

 

If not though...then my opinion remains.

 

 

 

Sounds Good and I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

Perhaps keep in mind that one of the more attractive characteristics of Tatsu

revolves around durability & longevity.  IME it stands up to the rigors of being cast, hard, 

over and over without breaking down very quickly. 

Not something I have found with some of the other FCs I've tried. 

So give some time.

Of course if you dislike it from the git go,

then most all of that goes right out the window.

But frankly, when given a fair & unbias opportunity based on the lines performance alone, I can not see that happening.

Good Luck

A-Jay

 

[Mike L]

We do this all the time…
First it was which brand is better, then it morph’s into the merits of the overall product itself. 
 

It’s never gonna end.  
 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[J Francho]

On 3/13/2022 at 4:16 PM, dodgeguy said:

I was wondering how long it lasts on a reel.At that price I can't deal with changing line constantly. 

I've gone 6 years with 6# Tatsu on a spinning reel.  The down side was the line getting a little low on the spool, but the line was fine.

[CrashVector]

14 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

A dozen, that's a bunch. Just guessing....probably all cheap ones. This thread is about Tatsu. I have used Invizx, Shooter and Sniper, along with Tatsu and they are great lines. 

 

This would be like a softball forum and a parent asking about a Rawlings heart of the hide glove (about a $400 glove) and people posting that Rawlings gloves are junk because they went to Wal-Mart and bought a cheap one that fell apart. 

 

I did exactly what I said, and went out and bought a spool of Tatsu 12lb AND a spool of assassin FC.  I'll post pics as proof if you require it.

 

Used both for about 3 hours.  I'm going to use them more obviously bc I don't think it's fair to write something off after a couple hours, BUT...some observations I have ARE valid.

 

Tatsu absolutely, positively has lots of line memory compared to mono and all copolymers I've tried.  Not debatable.  It's nearly as wirey as any other fluorocarbon with the same diameter.  It's barely more limp than the trilene FC, mostly bc the trilene FC is thicker diameter per stated lb/test, as Berkeley likes to do.  Diameter to diameter, they feel the same.

 

ANYONE saying tatsu has about the same memory as mono is outright lying.  It's much worse.

 

I figured this would be the result, as fluorocarbon is made of fluorocarbon, and it's physical properties are that of 100% fluorocarbon.  Saying 100% fluoro isn't stiff or doesn't have lots of memory is like saying you invented a new type of lead that isn't dense or heavy.  Not gonna happen.

 

Did it cast well?  Sure.  About as well as premium mono.  Maybe a tad better.  Is it more sensitive?  Yes.  It's more sensitive than nylon, about on par with trilene sensation.  Is is less wirey than invizx?  Barely.  Certainly not more than double the price less wirey.

 

My first (early) impression is that for $50 dollars, seaguar is making one hell of a profit margin for a line that is only marginally "better" than other fluorocarbon lines that cost $10.

[A-Jay]

17 minutes ago, CrashVector said:

 

I did exactly what I said, and went out and bought a spool of Tatsu 12lb AND a spool of assassin FC.  I'll post pics as proof if you require it.

 

Used both for about 3 hours.  I'm going to use them more obviously bc I don't think it's fair to write something off after a couple hours, BUT...some observations I have ARE valid.

 

Tatsu absolutely, positively has lots of line memory compared to mono and all copolymers I've tried.  Not debatable.  It's just as wirey as any other fluorocarbon with the same diameter.  It's barely more limp than the trilene FC, mostly bc the trilene FC is thicker diameter per stated lb/test, as Berkeley likes to do.  Diameter to diameter, they feel the same.

 

ANYONE saying tatsu has about the same memory as mono is outright lying.  It's much worse.

 

I figured this would be the result, as fluorocarbon is made of fluorocarbon, and it's physical properties are that of 100% fluorocarbon.  Saying 100% fluoro isn't stiff or doesn't have lots of memory is like saying you invented a new type of lead that isn't dense or heavy.  Not gonna happen.

 

Did it cast well?  Sure.  About as well as premium mono.  Maybe a tad better.  Is it more sensitive?  Yes.  It's more sensitive than nylon, about on par with trilene sensation.  Is is less wirey than invizx?  Barely.  Certainly not more than double the price less wirey.

 

My first (early) impression is that for $50 dollars, seaguar is making one hell of a profit margin for a line that is only marginally "better" than other fluorocarbon lines that cost $10.

 

8 hours ago, A-Jay said:

 I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

A-Jay

 

I was wrong.

A-Jay

 

[CrashVector]

5 minutes ago, A-Jay said:

 

I was wrong.

A-Jay

 

 

As I said I only used it for about 3 hours, and perhaps with using it more it'll soften up a bit, sorry if my initial impressions didn't match your confirmation bias, but the truth is that it's no better than I thought it would be...at least so far.

 

I'm sure you would be much less of a smart-ass if I came back and said hey man it's great.

 

That seems to be the problem with you and a lot of people on this site, you disagree with them and they automatically write you off as being incorrect or not knowing what you're  talking about despite the fact that I've been fishing for 40 years and I catch more fish in a week than most people catch in a month.

 

Everyone has their opinions, Im no different. My initial impression was that it was absolutely garbage line, but I went out spent the money on it and am willing to keep using it to see if my opinion changes.

 

But, because my opinion does not match yours based on the fact that fluorocarbon is fluorocarbon and has certain physical properties of fluoro carbon, you made a snide comment attempting to write my opinion off as invalid because it doesn't match yours.