Fishingmickey Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 I've got a good buddy I have saltwater fished with for years. We alternate "driving" the boat. Yes, the trash talking gets epic. As most others have said, it sounds like communication is needed. If he's been your fishing bud for 40 years, enhanced communication! Call him out on it. If you don't want to do that, then go solo or upgrade your boat and invite him to fish yours and you drive. FM 1 Quote
Deephaven Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, gimruis said: I would highly recommend against doing this. There's a reason the boat has a front and back casting deck. Use both of them and put some distance between. There is no fish worth taking a hook to the back of the head. When fishing moving baits I'd agree, but if I am pitching jigs or other drop/lift/retrieve like techniques I prefer if my fishing partner comes up front with me. I use it as a time to communicate spots and make sure we completely pick apart the water before moving on. It does take another competent caster or a large front deck, but it is no problem. There were lots of times when I had my SC 521 that I'd have 3 up front for that exact reason. When covering water with rattletraps/cranks/spinnerbaits/chatterbaits or with lots of sharp trebles like jerkbaits then space and separation in the boat is a great idea. Quote
Gera Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 So, you know each other for 40 years and still cant tell them what you think?? 4 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Deephaven said: It does take another competent caster or a large front deck, but it is no problem. I wouldn't even let a professional stand up front with me anymore. Years ago, I took a crank bait to the head. Lesson learned. 1 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 If you have been friends for 40 years, time on the water together is far more important than how you fish. No one lives forever and you may have regrets later, if you don't simply relax fish and have fun. Great memories of time spent fishing with friends are cherished forever. Make as many good memories as you can. You are there to have fun, enjoy yourself. You see a good spot that you want to slow down to fish, just say so. I'm sure he wont mind taking a break once in awhile. When I fish with old friends, we constantly cast over each others lines, argue about where the fish are, how we should fish, and of course who has the biggest fish, but we always have a great time. When I fish by myself I'm all business. 3 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted March 10, 2022 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Gera said: So, you know each other for 40 years and still cant tell them what you think?? He's 66 and was a very successful tournament fisherman back in the day. I'd rather just get on here and complain. ? 6 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 Some of y'all have stated that y'all would like to fish with me, I think y'all would be disappointed! The instant y'all step foot in my boat we become a team not two individuals fighting against each other. Once a pattern has been determined having both anglers using the same techniques will beat any "team" fishing against themselves. 6 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bird said: I'd rather just get on here and complain. ? mission accomplished... oe 1 3 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Catt said: Some of y'all have stated that y'all would like to fish with me, I think y'all would be disappointed! The instant y'all step foot in my boat we become a team not two individuals fighting against each other. Once a pattern has been determined having both anglers using the same techniques will beat any "team" fishing against themselves. When I fish with someone I don't know well, or is an accomplished fisherman dedicated to catching fish. Catts team pattern, method is spot on. When I fish with old time friends, enjoying the time together, reliving old memories, and simply having a good time is priority number one. If I was ever fortunate enough to fish with Catt, I would simply keep my mouth shut, do what I was told, and try to learn as much as I could. Quote
Super User J._Bricker Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 4 hours ago, gimruis said: I would highly recommend against doing this. There's a reason the boat has a front and back casting deck. Use both of them and put some distance between. There is no fish worth taking a hook to the back of the head. I take several of my close friends or my Father with sometimes when I fish, and I fish how I want to because its my boat. Since you’re just as aware there’s a front and back deck as I am, I’ll guess you also know “taking a hook to the back of the head” is usually attributed to not being aware of your backcast. But hey, it’s your boat, you fish how you want. I was just providing an option which I have successfully practiced as recently as a couple days ago. If it works for someone great, if not it’s part of the process to find a solution Quote
Super User geo g Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 Diversity can be a good thing until one of you start hitting gold. Then you both need to fish the way they want it that day, that hour. This is a great searching tool. 2 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, J._Bricker said: Since you’re just as aware there’s a front and back deck as I am, I’ll guess you also know “taking a hook to the back of the head” is usually attributed not being aware of your backcast. But hey, it’s your boat, you fish how you want. I was just providing an option which I have successfully practiced as recently as a couple days ago. If it works for someone great, if not it’s part of the process to find a solution I agree. It might work for some, but it's never going to be an option for me whether I'm in my own boat or someone else's boat. Really could happen to anyone though if you are in close physical proximity to someone else. Everyone thinks that sort of thing will never happen to you until it does. Frankly, it scares the crap out of me because of the incident. The worst part wasn't having trebles buried in my head. The worst part was when the lure initially hit me. It almost knocked me out cold. Felt like I was gonna faint for quite a while. 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, gimruis said: I wouldn't even let a professional stand up front with me anymore. If you can hit me in the back of the head while standing next to me you're an extraordinary caster! 2 hours ago, king fisher said: When I fish with old time friends, enjoying the time together, reliving old memories, and simply having a good time is priority number one. If I wanna chitchat I'm gonna stay home & throw something on the pit! Fishing ain't fun...Catching is ? 4 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted March 10, 2022 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2022 Thanks for all the feedback. Let me rewind a bit. This long time friend of mine is who taught me the ropes in Bass fishing. He's super generous and laid back and I'll continue to fish with him. I have a 2 man boat of my own which he also fishes from and he never complains when he's forced to slow down. On our last trip in his boat I pretied all my baits the night before and none of them had time to hit bottom......my bad. Lol. He's been consistently a power fisherman and I've slowed down so I'll make halftime adjustments and move on. Thanks again 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bird said: Thanks for all the feedback. Thank you ? Great topic for discussion, enjoyed all the feedback. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 You could always leave the boat at home and fish off of the bank. 1 Quote
MidwestBassAttack Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 Mix in some trips alone from the bank. I’ve done both methods…fished off a friends boat and bank fished alone. I prefer the solo trips at this stage in my life. Big corporate gig, wife, 4 kids (18, 9, 7, and 4). It’s my moment of solitude (aside from the daily morning constitution and a BassPro catalog) 1 2 Quote
Jaderose Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 7:05 PM, Bluebasser86 said: One of the many reasons I often fish alone. It's not very often I have someone in the boat I can't work together with, but I've had a few and it makes the day miserable. I like to fish slow a lot of the time and I've had days when the guy in the back wants to fish fast and keeps casting over me, forcing me to reel in before I want to or we'll get tangled. It's a quick way to never get an invite to go fishing with me again. This. I'm pretty methodical. I'll pick apart an area for an hour before I move on. I've been on the back deck with a run & gunner and am usually miserable. Life is too short to be unhappy while you are fishing, for goodness sakes. 2 Quote
schplurg Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 Friends that I have had for that long, and I have a few, are like brothers to me. I would simply tell them, "Dude! Slow the **** down for awhile man! In a hurry to get home to the wife? Sit down and eat a sandwich!" Honesty is almost always best. Aside from that.....if you simply can't: - It may work itself out. I could not fish 3 - 4 days a week with the same person, or even a variety of people for that matter. You both may get tired of each others company, not completely but it may get old. It may quickly turn into once a week. I don't know you guys so whaddo I know? - I have no problem speaking my mind usually, but if you need subtlety then "Hey how 'bout we work this area for 20 minutes?" here and there. If that didn't work out for me I simply would limit my trips with him. But again if it were me I'd like...talk to him. Respect goes both ways. 2 Quote
txchaser Posted March 13, 2022 Posted March 13, 2022 I usually want to go slow and pick apart really good spots, so I feel you on this one. 1) Ask him to teach you to fish at the pace he fishes at. You might learn something. 2) Ask him if you can pick one spot to pick apart on the next outing. Just be right about the spot so you can put enough weight in the boat that next time out he asks whether you have any more of those rest stops. Quote
SC53 Posted March 13, 2022 Posted March 13, 2022 My fishing partner (wife) prefers to fish a t rig worm so I’ll fish other baits, typically faster moving baits, to try and figure out what’s going to work that day. Most of the time she will outfish me. But I think the combination of me throwing moving/different baits helps us as I may have alerted the fish but not caught it while she will come behind a catch the fish that I didn’t. If something I’m throwing starts to work better, she will switch too. As for your situation, I’d talk to him and let him know your concerns. Maybe suggest when he catches something on his moving baits that you slow down and work the area over at a slower pace. In the meantime, consider going to a speed worm with a little heavier weight or a swim jig. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted March 13, 2022 Super User Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 7:30 PM, Bird said: Forgot to mention, he's got the nice bass boat and I an a electric only. In that case, I'd stock up on 1/2 oz spinnerbaits, jigs, and traps... On 3/10/2022 at 10:21 AM, gimruis said: I wouldn't even let a professional stand up front with me anymore. Like tennis, you need a lefty and a righty. Quote
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