Super User Bird Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 My fishing partner of over 40 years and I have both retired and the plan is to fish 3 - 4 days a week, week days only. This year alone we have fished 6 times together but a disturbing theme is developing. Lol. He is very fast pased, jumping from waypoint to waypoint and constantly trolling. I on The other hand have a much slower more methodical pace. His pace is forcing me to forget about any slow presentations like wacky, drop-shot or really any finesse. He's a diehard power fisherman and very accomplished but I'm struggling to keep pace. It's deep divers, 3/4 Texas rings and 1/2 oz Spinnerbaits and he's on to the next spot. BAM. I could sit on a submerged tree for an hour. Idk Thinking I should mix in some solo trips but really don't want to hurt his feelings.......rant over. Quote
Super User gim Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 Who's boat do you normally fish in? I mean if its his boat, he kinda has final say on the style of fishing. If its your boat, then slow down and do what you want to with the slower approach. I've never been much of a finesse guy myself but its obvious that a more aggressive, power approach doesn't always work. 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted March 10, 2022 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, gimruis said: Who's boat do you normally fish in? I mean if its his boat, he kinda has final say on the style of fishing. If its your boat, then slow down and do what you want to with the slower approach. I've never been much of a finesse guy myself but its obvious that a more aggressive, power approach doesn't always work. Forgot to mention, he's got the nice bass boat and I an a electric only. Quote
Super User N Florida Mike Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 The friend I fish with the most and me both fish generally the same way. We mostly fish T rigged plastics. When it’s in his boat, he fishes a little faster than I would, and seems to forget I’m fishing too sometimes with the way he positions the boat and gives me little room to fish. But I have no complaints. It’s not blatant on his part, and I catch plenty of fish anyway. We are closer to agreement than anyone else I fish with. In your case, I’d definitely find other opportunities to fish like you want to. 2 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted March 10, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 10, 2022 As mostly a tournament co angler I run into this all the time. He’s from the… “cover as much water as I can” club. Since I’m also a so called “power fisherman” It’s normally not a major problem but depending on how he positions the boat it can be. In your case, since you’re obviously friends and plan on spending more time on the water with each other, I’d talk to him about alternating between power and finesse outings. I’m sure he knows by now you prefer to fish slower, so it wouldn’t hurt to bring it up. He may surprise you. Mike 5 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted March 10, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 10, 2022 One of the many reasons I often fish alone. It's not very often I have someone in the boat I can't work together with, but I've had a few and it makes the day miserable. I like to fish slow a lot of the time and I've had days when the guy in the back wants to fish fast and keeps casting over me, forcing me to reel in before I want to or we'll get tangled. It's a quick way to never get an invite to go fishing with me again. 7 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, Bird said: Forgot to mention, he's got the nice bass boat and I an a electric only. Sounds like you need to make an upgrade, my friend. ? 1 Quote
Trox Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bird said: Thinking I should mix in some solo trips but really don't want to hurt his feelings....... I mean, doesn't really seem like he's considering yours. I'd definately talk to him about it. 1 Quote
Super User J._Bricker Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 I don’t know @Bird, but I’m gonna guess that one of you is fishing from the bow, the other from the back deck. Kinda like you’ve got your spot and casting area and I’ve got mine which if you aren’t in a tournament this can lead to some problems amongst friends. If both of you are fishing from the bow, both anglers can employ various techniques, be aware of each other’s casts and discuss what’s happening as they thoroughly work the spot before moving on to the next. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 Adapt or change partners. Tom 4 Quote
Deephaven Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 I think it sounds perfect. You need someone to speed you up and he needs someone to slow him down. Be vocal when he is wrong and prove it by catching and vice versa. You will make each other better...but you have to TALK. 1 Quote
Super User geo g Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 If your in his boat your stuck. As he is up front doing his thing, cast out the back and every once in a while let out some line so when he moves your bait stays in place. I have done this a few times when fishing in someone else's boat. I am like you slow and methodical, unless someone is proving me wrong. Then I can pick it up, usually with a swimbait, jerkbait, or top water. 2 1 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 I think the solution is, next trip both of you fish “his” way and the next fish “your” way. If that’s not an option, I think you need to fish the way that makes you happy. If that means solo, so be it. 4 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, BrianMDTX said: I think the solution is, next trip both of you fish “his” way and the next fish “your” way. Winner...Chicken dinner 4 hours ago, Bird said: Forgot to mention, he's got the nice bass boat and I an a electric only. Do you take him on your boat much/ever/50-50? Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 Set you gay into quarters. Each gets to fish location and style for two quarters. If he’s not often to sharing the approaches, find someone more compatible ? 1 Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Bird said: My fishing partner of over 40 years Y'all don't talk? Y'all need to sit down & come to a understanding that fishing together as a "team" is more productive than two random guys on different ends of the boat. You need to up your power fishing game & he needs to up his finesse fishing game. A house divided amongst itself will never stand. 10 1 Quote
GRiver Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 I fish 95% of the time alone, with that being said, I’m probably overkill on trying to make the other person is having a good time. I’ve had a already fishing partner other than my Dad. We talked while fish, I’d say “I’m ready to move”…… he would say “whoa give me two more minutes here.” I agree with CATT communication is the key. 3 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted March 10, 2022 Global Moderator Posted March 10, 2022 I drag a jerkbait or a paddle tail bait behind the boat when somebody is going along too fast for my liking . It covers a lot of water, kind of a slow trolling method 2 Quote
Super User gim Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 11 hours ago, J._Bricker said: If both of you are fishing from the bow, both anglers can employ various techniques, be aware of each other’s casts and discuss what’s happening as they thoroughly work the spot before moving on to the next. I would highly recommend against doing this. There's a reason the boat has a front and back casting deck. Use both of them and put some distance between. There is no fish worth taking a hook to the back of the head. I take several of my close friends or my Father with sometimes when I fish, and I fish how I want to because its my boat. I generally prefer the power fishing methods over slower finesse fishing, but that doesn't mean I do it 100% of the time. Even the most unreasonable bass angler knows that chucking and winding a fast-moving lure isn't going to work EVERY time. If the person in the back doesn't care for what I'm doing, they can come up to the front and run the bow mount and watch the electronics while trying to fish instead. Ironically, every single time I ask if they want to do it, the answer is "no thanks." 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 I fished with an uncle a lot and it was the opposite . He fished excruciatingly slow . Even when I was using a slow bait like a worm ,he could not keep up . He hardly ever caught fish . He liked to say "Bill Dance says to always use the lightest weight you can get away with " LOL. It was my boat , I just ignored him and fished. Everybody else I fish with there is no problem . 1 Quote
Super User Scott F Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 I used to fish with a guy who never liked to slow down. We usually fished out of his boat. When I’d say I’d like to fish slower, he’d do it for 5 minutes or so, then flip the trolling motor back on high. He’d avoid getting anywhere near a downed tree saying, “oh, there’s nothing on wood right now”. We’d take my boat once in a while, but he’d complain constantly about everything when I was driving. I just started saying no whenever he called to go fishing. It’s too bad too. He is a very good fisherman, just not very flexible. 2 Quote
thediscochef Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 I think there's a time to fish fast and a time to fish slow. It's always good to be flexible but if you just can't compromise then I would absolutely mix in some solo trips. Get all your finessing done there, and then go attack with your buddy. 2 Quote
Bruce424 Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 just secretly unhook the trolling batteries? Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 I’ve always said having a consistent fishing partner is like having a second wife!? I’ve been fishing with the same partner for 20 years. While there are things he does that I don’t always agree with, we have taught each other our respective strengths. Me being primarily a finesse plastics guy and him being a moving bait fisherman, I have learned a lot more about crankbait fishing from him and he has learned finesse from me. While I am better at boat position from being a guide and always aware of where the back deck is, he is good at telling me what cover he has fished and actually leaves me some prime spots from the back deck. He knows that if he is moving fast with a crank or spinnerbait and I am using plastics, I will be casting pretty far forward to give me time to work my bait. All that being said, we will usually identify a pattern and both of us will be throwing the same kind of baits. 3 Quote
thediscochef Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, TOXIC said: I’ve always said having a consistent fishing partner is like having a second wife!? I’ve been fishing with the same partner for 20 years. While there are things he does that I don’t always agree with, we have taught each other our respective strengths. Me being primarily a finesse plastics guy and him being a moving bait fisherman, I have learned a lot more about crankbait fishing from him and he has learned finesse from me. While I am better at boat position from being a guide and always aware of where the back deck is, he is good at telling me what cover he has fished and actually leaves me some prime spots from the back deck. He knows that if he is moving fast with a crank or spinnerbait and I am using plastics, I will be casting pretty far forward to give me time to work my bait. All that being said, we will usually identify a pattern and both of us will be throwing the same kind of baits. Having different but flexible skillsets means the whole boat finds success sooner I would think. Nice 1 Quote
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