Are All Dobyns CB Rods Composite Blanks? (Apparently They are)

[AmmoGuy]

I called Dobyns today to get some info on a rod.  During the conversation the person that was helping me (I can’t remember his name) told me that all CB rods are composite (mix of graphite and glass). He noted that the  CB-Glass rods just have a higher percentage of glass in the blank than the regular CB models. 
 

This is contradictory to what I’ve heard in the past. I was under the impression that the regular CB models were graphite blanks? 
 

Can anyone confirm? 

[Mike L]

I can’t confirm one way or the other but I would take the word of the man who builds them. 
 

 

 

 

Mike

[AmmoGuy]

7 minutes ago, Mike L said:

I can’t confirm one way or the other but I would take the word of the man who builds them. 
 

 

 

 

Mike

I agree. But it wasn’t Gary that I was talking to, and I believe I’ve seen him call the 705CB a “graphite” rod on another forum. 
 

However the employee told me pretty matter of factly that all CB models were composite. 

[Mike L]

31 minutes ago, AmmoGuy said:

I agree. But it wasn’t Gary that I was talking to, and I believe I’ve seen him call the 705CB a “graphite” rod on another forum. 
 

However the employee told me pretty matter of factly that all CB models were composite. 

Ok 

 

 

 

 

Mike

[Aaron_H]

Interesting, I was under the impression that aside from the glass rods, the Colts were the only composite rods in the lineup.

[LonnieP]

1 hour ago, AmmoGuy said:

I agree. But it wasn’t Gary that I was talking to, and I believe I’ve seen him call the 705CB a “graphite” rod on another forum. 
 

 

That’s because Dobyns also makes a graphite 705CB. I have the Glass version and it is a composite.

[AmmoGuy]

58 minutes ago, LonnieP said:

That’s because Dobyns also makes a graphite 705CB. I have the Glass version and it is a composite.

Check my OP. 
The employee told me “All CB model rods are composite” (we were discussing the FR705CB specifically). 
 

Im paraphrasing, but he said something to extent of CB models being only 40% glass, and CB Glass models being 60+% glass. ??‍♂️
 

[LonnieP]

3 hours ago, AmmoGuy said:

Check my OP. 
The employee told me “All CB model rods are composite” (we were discussing the FR705CB specifically). 
 

Im paraphrasing, but he said something to extent of CB models being only 40% glass, and CB Glass models being 60+% glass. ??‍♂️
 

Gotcha. I miss read your OP

[Columbia Craw]

Any Dobyns rod that is a CB model is graphite.  Any model that is designated CB Glass is a composite with one exception.  The Champion 705CB Glass Moderate is all glass.  

[SproDD79]

I was under the impression the Champ CB (non glass) was 100% graphite.

[AmmoGuy]

1 hour ago, Columbia Craw said:

Any Dobyns rod that is a CB model is graphite.  Any model that is designated CB Glass is a composite with one exception.  The Champion 705CB Glass Moderate is all glass.  

 
That’s what I always thought. 
 

But it’s pretty odd that someone there that was put on the line to answer my “technical” questions and help pick out a rod would say otherwise. 
 

I even said, “wait, the Fury 705CB is a composite blank??”, and got the reply “All CB model rods are composites”. 
 

??‍♂️ 
I’m just the messenger. 

[AmmoGuy]

On 3/5/2022 at 7:16 PM, Columbia Craw said:

Any Dobyns rod that is a CB model is graphite.  Any model that is designated CB Glass is a composite with one exception.  The Champion 705CB Glass Moderate is all glass.  

 

According to Dobyns, that is not quite correct. I emailed and asked for clarification. I think is will be interesting for a lot of people, as everything I see online calls this a graphite rod. 

 

The FR705CB is 40% Glass.  That's news to me. 

 

[Aaron_H]

I have no problem with my FR705CB being a composite blank, but it is unacceptable IMO that this information is not readily available on their site. The page for the Fury rods, for example, only says "high modulus graphite blanks" with no exception made for the CB model.

 

A 40% glass rod is not a graphite blank.

[AmmoGuy]

1 hour ago, Aaron_H said:

I have no problem with my FR705CB being a composite blank, but it is unacceptable IMO that this information is not readily available on their site. The page for the Fury rods, for example, only says "high modulus graphite blanks" with no exception made for the CB model.

 

A 40% glass rod is not a graphite blank.

 

Yea, its a little odd. Even in this thread it has been matter-of-factly said that the FR705CB is a graphite rod. 

 

But similarly, I was going to purchase a Lews XD series cranking rod recently, because I thought it was a composite. It is advertised at BP and TW as "HM50 graphite/S-glass".  After a back and forth with Lews, they tell me that it's an all graphite rod.  So I mean, who knows. 

[Columbia Craw]

This should help.  An excerpt from my exchange with Gary Dobyns.

All Dobyns CB rods that don’t have glass in the description are all graphite. We only have glass in the Champion Series. I do put 15 percent glass in the Colt Series. This is our intro series and I used glass to make the rod STRONG as it gets far more abuse mostly from the younger anglers. Dobyns CB glass rods are a mix of graphite primarily toward the butt section to lighten them up but the forward 60 percent of the blank is Glass. The only exception in the DC735 Glass and DC 736 Glass and the Glass material runs a little more forward in the blank, so there is less Glass in these two models.

 

Gary added he will check into the misinformation and encouraged any calls regarding rod questions to be addressed by himself and or Brice.

 

Hope this helps ya’all.

 

Doug

[AmmoGuy]

14 minutes ago, Columbia Craw said:

This should help.  An excerpt from my exchange with Gary Dobyns.

All Dobyns CB rods that don’t have glass in the description are all graphite. We only have glass in the Champion Series. I do put 15 percent glass in the Colt Series. This is our intro series and I used glass to make the rod STRONG as it gets far more abuse mostly from the younger anglers. Dobyns CB glass rods are a mix of graphite primarily toward the butt section to lighten them up but the forward 60 percent of the blank is Glass. The only exception in the DC735 Glass and DC 736 Glass and the Glass material runs a little more forward in the blank, so there is less Glass in these two models.

 

Gary added he will check into the misinformation and encouraged any calls regarding rod questions to be addressed by himself and or Brice.

 

Hope this helps ya’all.

 

Doug

 

Well, now we know I guess. 

Although Brice IS the one I corresponded with.  It's odd, because how did he even come up with the 40% number if it doesn't at least correspond to one of the other blanks Gary mentioned? 

 

Anywho. It is what it is. 

 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

If the end result is a rod that performs as expected, what difference does the exact material make? 99.9% of the fishing public don’t understand the impact or lack there of different material have in final construction of a blank. 

[AmmoGuy]

1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

If the end result is a rod that performs as expected, what difference does the exact material make? 99.9% of the fishing public don’t understand the impact or lack there of different material have in final construction of a blank. 

I agree. To a certain extent.

 

I manage a small manufacturing company that sells to the public. Being able to communicate correct product specifications is meaningful. Or rather, giving someone the wrong specifications isn’t good. 
 

It’s not that big of a deal though. The intent of the thread was to try and find if what I had been told by Dobyns was accurate (because I guess Im one of the 1% that does care). That has been accomplished. 
 

 

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

32 minutes ago, AmmoGuy said:

I agree. To a certain extent.

 

I manage a small manufacturing company that sells to the public. Being able to communicate correct product specifications is meaningful. Or rather, giving someone the wrong specifications isn’t good. 
 

It’s not that big of a deal though. The intent of the thread was to try and find if what I had been told by Dobyns was accurate (because I guess Im one of the 1% that does care). That has been accomplished. 
 

 

I agree 100% that everyone on a team should be on the same page. Inconsistency raises eyebrows. 

[AmmoGuy]

8 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

I agree 100% that everyone on a team should be on the same page. Inconsistency raises eyebrows. 

 
Right. 
Whether it’s justified or not, things like this are not confidence inspiring. 

[Mat_ski]

I do materials testing for living. If you are really curious and are willing to cut up your rod to pieces let me know. I am allowed to use company instruments to do testing for personal projects after hours. 

[AmmoGuy]

3 minutes ago, Mat_ski said:

I do materials testing for living. If you are really curious and are willing to cut up your rod to pieces let me know. I am allowed to use company instruments to do testing for personal projects after hours. 

Ha, thanks for the offer.

I think this case is closed though.