10 ft jon boat

[Danika 327]

So i was wondering what y'all would thing about putting a deck on a 10 foot Jon boat. It would only be the front deck. With 2 people me and him weigh 360 pounds together, and we would only bring light tackle. With the wood and everything and tackle it would be right at 400 pounds or just under, do you think the 10 footer could handle 400 pounds? Also i have no motor or troll motor we use 2 paddles. The only place i would take this boat out is on a small pond down my road so no big or rough water and zero waves. Let me know what y'all think.  

[gim]

That seems like too much weight for a 10 foot jon boat.  I used to have one that I primarily used for duck hunting.  A bag of decoys, 2 hunters, a couple shotguns, and a 65 pound labrador was way too much for it.  Looking back, it was unsafe.

 

Which is part of the reason I got rid of the 10 footer and went to a 12 footer.  More space and more available weight.

 

Even an aluminum 10 foot jon boat should have a US Coast Guard weight rating stamp on it somewhere.  Mine did.  My advice would be to follow that rating too.

[Danika 327]

Do you think i should just leave the boat how it is and not do anything to it? If you had to guess what do you think the total weight on your boat was?

[Jigfishn10]

15 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Even an aluminum 10 foot jon boat should have a US Coast Guard weight rating stamp on it somewhere.  Mine did.  My advice would be to follow that rating too.

You beat me to it

[TnRiver46]

3 minutes ago, Jigfishn10 said:

You beat me to it

Those USCG ratings are way off, mine says 5 people or 605 lbs . Who would actually print that off and stick it on a boat? Every single boat I’ve ever seen is like that too 

[J Francho]

First, I think your estimate may grossly overload the boat.  What brand/model?  What is the beam?  You might actually be able to deck it if it's 4' wide at the bottom.  I just feel like 10' is way too small.  12' is the minimum for a kayak, to me.  I wouldn't consider a jon boat under 15'.

 

For reference to specs, here is a Lowe 10' jon: https://www.loweboats.com/hunt-fish/jon/tiller/l1032-jon.html

 

Max weight is 275 lbs.

[Danika 327]

yes mine has a rating and it says 230 pounds or 2 people. It was my dads old Jon boat and he is a bigger guy (around 285) and he and my grandpa (around 145) took it out i think with just paddles to get them around. Im not saying this is a good weight for the boat by any means (also not sure how it performed with that weight) just wondering what you guys think and how much weight you guys have seen or experinced with it. 

[Danika 327]

1 minute ago, J Francho said:

First, I think your estimate may grossly overload the boat.  What brand/model?  What is the beam?  You might actually be able to deck it if it's 4' wide at the bottom.  I just feel like 10' is way too small.  12' is the minimum for a kayak, to me.  I wouldn't consider a jon boat under 15'.

 

[gim]

19 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Those USCG ratings are way off, mine says 5 people or 605 lbs . Who would actually print that off and stick it on a boat? Every single boat I’ve ever seen is like that too 

They have a mathematical system they have used for many years and they do it uniformly to every watercraft.  If you think the one on your boat is inaccurate, then don't follow it.  I'm going to go with the safe move and follow the one on my boat and I would advise everyone else to do the same.

 

If you overload your boat and get into an accident, I highly doubt your insurance would cover you or the watercraft.

[Danika 327]

2 minutes ago, J Francho said:

First, I think your estimate may grossly overload the boat.  What brand/model?  What is the beam?  You might actually be able to deck it if it's 4' wide at the bottom.  I just feel like 10' is way too small.  12' is the minimum for a kayak, to me.  I wouldn't consider a jon boat under 15'.

The brand/model is a sears Gamefisher my mom bought it for my dad brand new (10 or 11 years ago) the boat isn't in bad condition not quite sure if they make this exact boat anymore

[gim]

29 minutes ago, Danika 327 said:

If you had to guess what do you think the total weight on your boat was?

 

Probably 500 pounds in that 10 foot jon boat.  Two hunters each @ 200 pounds, a 65 pound dog, and decoys/shotguns.  Ya that was very unsafe.

[Danika 327]

4 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Probably 500 pounds in that 10 foot jon boat.  Two hunters each @ 200 pounds, a 65 pound dog, and decoys/shotguns.  Ya that was very unsafe.

 Oh wow yea i'm not 100% sure what i'm going to do yet i was really wanting a front and back deck but thats just wayyy to much weight so i'm thinking about only a front deck. Not quite sure yet but this is kinda the build i was going for, except i'm not putting a troll motor on mine. 

[Jigfishn10]

24 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

Those USCG ratings are way off, mine says 5 people or 605 lbs . Who would actually print that off and stick it on a boat? Every single boat I’ve ever seen is like that too 

Way off in what way? Too conservative? Besides, if you're like me and you go out fishing in the ocean in 80' - 100' of water depending on the tide and current, would you dismiss the rating and overload the boat? To me, the rating is gospel.  

[Danika 327]

1 minute ago, Jigfishn10 said:

Way off in what way? Too conservative? Besides, if you're like me and you go out fishing in the ocean in 80' - 100' of water depending on the tide and current, would you dismiss the rating and overload the boat? To me, the rating is gospel.  

I get that but i will only be paddling in a 2-3 acer pond 

[gim]

4 minutes ago, Danika 327 said:

 Oh wow yea i'm not 100% sure what i'm going to do yet i was really wanting a front and back deck but thats just wayyy to much weight so i'm thinking about only a front deck. Not quite sure yet but this is kinda the build i was going for, except i'm not putting a troll motor on mine. 

Good luck with the build @Danika 327.

[Danika 327]

1 minute ago, gimruis said:

Good luck with the build @Danika 327.

I'm not quite sure if i should do that and i would not have the seats on there i just need it to float and do good with a front deck. with two people. 

[Jigfishn10]

If you know your design you can get a quick idea of weight

3/4" plywood - you can figure 2 lbs/sf

2x4 kiln dry - 1.5 lbs/lf - multiply x 1.75 (to be safe) for pressure treated

Take a square footage of deck and lineal footage of 2x4 add an additional 15 - 20% for fasteners and say an additional 25% for carpet if you so desire. That will get you close I would say.

 

Prior to fastening the plywood, may add some rigid insulation or spray insulation for more floatation, I guess.

[Danika 327]

6 minutes ago, Jigfishn10 said:

If you know your design you can get a quick idea of weight

3/4" plywood - you can figure 2 lbs/sf

2x4 kiln dry - 1.5 lbs/lf - multiply x 1.75 (to be safe) for pressure treated

Take a square footage of deck and lineal footage of 2x4 add an additional 15 - 20% for fasteners and say an additional 25% for carpet if you so desire. That will get you close I would say.

Thank you i did the math for the front deck it would somewhere around 20 pounds 

[MN Fisher]

7 minutes ago, Jigfishn10 said:

If you know your design you can get a quick idea of weight

3/4" plywood - you can figure 2 lbs/sf

2x4 kiln dry - 1.5 lbs/lf - multiply x 1.75 (to be safe) for pressure treated

Take a square footage of deck and lineal footage of 2x4 add an additional 15 - 20% for fasteners and say an additional 25% for carpet if you so desire. That will get you close I would say.

 

Prior to fastening the plywood, may add some rigid insulation or spray insulation for more floatation, I guess.

I would go aluminum angle framing and 5/8" BCX plywood sealed with Spar Urethane or 2-Part Epoxy. That seems to be the standard now-days for tiny boats - and what I'm using on my F-9 rebuild.

 

DO NOT USE PRESSURE TREATED PLYWOOD. The chemicals they use react with aluminum and will corrode the hull.

 

Place for ideas and looks at builds - https://www.tinboats.net/ - they have a forum that you can ask questions on and pictures/text of numerous builds.

[Jigfishn10]

1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

I would go aluminum angle framing and 5/8" BCX plywood sealed with Spar Urethane or 2-Part Epoxy. That seems to be the standard now-days for tiny boats - and what I'm using on my F-9 rebuild.

 

DO NOT USE PRESSURE TREATED PLYWOOD. The chemicals they use react with aluminum and will corrode the hull.

 

Place for ideas and looks at builds - https://www.tinboats.net/ - they have a forum that you can ask questions on and pictures/text of numerous builds.

Any idea what kind of weight you added MN? Roughly how big a build div by weight?

[Bird]

Check out the 10 ft bass raider on YouTube.

Owners really heavily modify those boats to the extreme. Bow mount trolling motor, transom mount outboard, plywood flooring, raised fishing deck etc.

Those boats have to be waaaay over the 515lb weight capacity.

 

The other issue I see with a raised fishing deck is a definite stability issue with a boat with a small footprint.

 

I'd likely err on the side of safety...... good luck ?.

 

 

[MN Fisher]

5 minutes ago, Jigfishn10 said:

Any idea what kind of weight you added MN? Roughly how big a build div by weight?

I'm still working on my build - just finished the sub-floor and about to frame the main parts. Ball-park guess is that the final product will add about 100lbs to the original weight. That's with a raised casting deck, storage compartments, livewell (empty), etc.

 

Using 1/16" aluminum 1"x1" angle is strong enough - check Tiny Boat Nation...that's what he uses on all his builds and what I'm using on mine.

[TnRiver46]

31 minutes ago, Jigfishn10 said:

Way off in what way? Too conservative? Besides, if you're like me and you go out fishing in the ocean in 80' - 100' of water depending on the tide and current, would you dismiss the rating and overload the boat? To me, the rating is gospel.  

Show me 5 people that weigh 605 lbs 

[Jigfishn10]

1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said:

Show me 5 people that weigh 605 lbs 

I weigh 170

My son weighs 120

My daughter weighs 100

That's leaves 2 of their friends to make up 215 lbs

 

I'm under lock and key about my wife's weigh...  

 

[TnRiver46]

Just now, Jigfishn10 said:

I weigh 170

My son weighs 120

My daughter weighs 100

That's leaves 2 of their friends to make up 215 lbs

 

I'm under lock and key about my wife's weigh...  

 

Hahaha. 
 

the OP said his boat is 2 people or 230 lbs. also terrible math 

 

only go fishing with adolescents?