Swimbait reel

[GoneFishingLTN]

Swim-bait reel not going to be throwing anything over 1.5oz total mainly around 3/4oz I have one DAIWA tatula 200 size that is perfect for this but for my second one I was wondering if using a 5gear ratio would better than 7gear ratio these are both 200 size spools. 
 

I’m thinking of 20lb fluro for both these not quiet sure 

 

so what would you recommend in this situation the 5 or 7 speed? Or a normal 100 size spool? 
 

Fluro or mono?

[softwateronly]

For me, 200 size is quantitatively better.  IPT and wear and tear of the reel are conserved.  I prefer 7 speed, but I don't mind reeling slow.  I've been using sunline fc shock leader (floro), sunline defier armilo (copoly?),  thanks to @WRB and Maxima ultragreen tied with a fg knot to pp 40/65lb, and a san diego jam direct or to a decoy egg snap #4/5 without issue.  The maxima seems unruly compared to the defier if one wasn't going to use braid to leader.  I think minimum should be 20lb - 22lb test.

 

scott

[Hammer 4]

For the weight range your going to use, the Tatula 200 6 speed will work just fine. I normally use my tatula 200 for 1.5 oz up to 2 ozs. 

[ATA]

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[PhishLI]

15 hours ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

so what would you recommend in this situation the 5 or 7 speed? Or a normal 100 size spool? 

Here you go: 

TAT150P https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_150_Casting_Reel/descpage-DTT5.html

[GoneFishingLTN]

On 2/25/2022 at 12:10 AM, Hammer 4 said:

For the weight range your going to use, the Tatula 200 6 speed will work just fine. I normally use my tatula 200 for 1.5 oz up to 2 ozs. 

When do you go up to a tatula 300 anything heavier than 2oz? 

[Hammer 4]

39 minutes ago, GoneFishingLTN said:

When do you go up to a tatula 300 anything heavier than 2oz? 

Yes, at least I do. I find the 200 for any baits over 2 oz. to be a bit overworked, for lack of a better word, where as the 300 chucks them out there with ease.

[PhishLI]

On 2/24/2022 at 9:54 PM, softwateronly said:

For me, 200 size is quantitatively better. 

But what does "200" actually mean regarding spool size. A Tatula 200 holds nearly twice as much line as a Curado 200K which holds barely more line than a Daiwa CT 100. I've spooled line off one to the other. It's negligible.

 

On 2/24/2022 at 7:03 PM, GoneFishingLTN said:

Swim-bait reel not going to be throwing anything over 1.5oz total mainly around 3/4oz

If, as you state, you'll be throwing mainly 3/4 oz, you don't need an oversized 200 size reel like a Tat 200. A 3/8oz chatter bait and trailer weighs 3/4oz. You'll gain nothing by using an upsized reel, and 1.5oz is easily within the wheelhouse of most 150 size reels. I own most of the current low profile swim bait reels worth mentioning, but also threw baits up to 2 ozs on a Quantum ICON PT last year which has a typical 150 size spool. It's no worse for the wear and did just fine.

 

BTW, this thing about ipt and big baits...are you fishing crystal clear highland reservoirs? If not you're probably not making 150 ft casts every time. If not, probably never, so line cap won't be problematic. Regardless, other than single jointed glides where it "may" matter, does it really matter? Retrieve speeds are all over the place with different swim baits. There's no hard-fast-rule here, even if some people feel you'll spontaneously combust of you don't do certain things one way and one way only.

[softwateronly]

46 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

But what does "200" actually mean regarding spool size. A Tatula 200 holds nearly twice as much line as a Curado 200K which holds barely more line than a Daiwa CT 100. I've spooled line off one to the other. It's negligible.

 

If, as you state, you'll be throwing mainly 3/4 oz, you don't need an oversized 200 size reel like a Tat 200. A 3/8oz chatter bait and trailer weighs 3/4oz. You'll gain nothing by using an upsized reel, and 1.5oz is easily within the wheelhouse of most 150 size reels. I own most of the current low profile swim bait reels worth mentioning, but also threw baits up to 2 ozs on a Quantum ICON PT last year which has a typical 150 size spool. It's no worse for the wear and did just fine.

 

BTW, this thing about ipt and big baits...are you fishing crystal clear highland reservoirs? If not you're probably not making 150 ft casts every time. If not, probably never, so line cap won't be problematic. Regardless, other than single jointed glides where it "may" matter, does it really matter? Retrieve speeds are all over the place with different swim baits. There's no hard-fast-rule here, even if some people feel you'll spontaneously combust of you don't do certain things one way and one way only.

 

Fair point and you're right, I bomb 3/4-2oz all the time on jig rods, braid to leader, and 100 size spools because to me, they're way more comfortable to fish and I have better feel for the tail thump which helps control ipt speed issues.  Long casts are my norm to be effective, not reservoirs but some of these midwest inland lakes remain 8'+ visibility through the year.  Currently looking for a 7'6-7'9 sensitive and light weight H or XH just for this role.  In my defense, 20lb floro on 100 size spools would severely limit my effectiveness and I couldn't recommend it.  

 

scott

[PhishLI]

9 hours ago, softwateronly said:

In my defense, 20lb floro on 100 size spools would severely limit my effectiveness and I couldn't recommend it.  

I agree with this point, and neither would I. That said, a reel like the Tatula 150 is an outlier in its class. Its 28mm wide x 34mm diameter spool and arbor size allow it to accept 300 feet of .017 diameter line which covers typical 20 lb fluoro and mono.  

 

If the OP sticks to his stated lure weight range of 3/4-1 1/2 ozs then the Tat 150's line capacity is more than enough. If planted on a 7'6"-7'9" rod of any type nobody's chucking 1 1/2oz  wind catching, fish shaped, tumbling swimbaits like a SW 168 much farther than 150 feet, if that. Maybe, maybe a 5" Bullshad resin bait will sail a tad farther. The upside is that he/you/me or anyone else will be able to manage 3/4oz much easier than if one went with the Tat 200 with its 38mm diameter very deep spool which holds a ton of line. It's a significantly heavier spool when loaded. Forget about reels like a Tat 300 or Curado 300 with their 43mm diameter spools loaded with mono or fluoro. I have all these reels and I don't want to "mainly" throw 3/4oz lures with them, but I can't speak for anyone else. I suppose I could run a marathon in Muck boots, but why would I want to?

 

I haven't counted lately, but I probably have at least 75 1 1/2oz class hard swim baits with and without bills, plus soft baits. The 150 handles them just fine. The 100 mm handle is a plus here, and if there's a place where the T-Wing shines it's with large diameter plastic lines. I doubt anyone wouldn't notice it's benefits here compared to reels with standard line guides, especially with lighter baits in the range the OP specified. It isn't subtle.

[DINK WHISPERER]

I've tried everything from the Tranx lineup to the big 13 stuff and have settled on the Lew's super duty wide spool for all my big bait duties. Only 8.1oz, sits really low on the reel seat and holds way too much 25lb fluoro line.