garroyo130 Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, cyclops2 said: Reel Is rated for 22 pounds of drag. NO ONE lifts any fish out of the water by using the rod in a FULLY BENT .....U.....shape. Mouth lift it or lift it with the FISHING LINE. Most experienced anglers USE a rubber net that is large enough to do the job. Fish swims into the net. The person is trained enough to ONLY LIFT the fish STRAIGHT up..........With the net pole / handle straight up & down Nothing breaks. Fish is not thrashing around on end of a broken rod. As the fish size increases to a point that common sense says do not bend the rod any further the REEL SPOOL is taking the force. NOT the over bent rod. Great argument. That said ... naw it'll probably break Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 23, 2022 Super User Posted February 23, 2022 8 lbs of drag force is the same as 8 lbs of lifting force, the rod bends the same. The simple fact is 99% of bass rods can’t withstand sustained bending 8 lbs for force. Higher drag forces are used to pull on the lure with the rod pointed at the lure in lieu of applying the force to the rod. Bass are nearly weightless in water, dead weight in water is about 60% of out of the water. Bass can apply higher then 8 lbs of pulling force by swimming a short burst, anglers set high drag forces to turn the bass, the rod flex helps to control the surge but alone can not apply higher then forces. Tom Quote
cyclops2 Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 The reason the rod DOES NOT BREAK ? ALL of the pull is SPREAD OUT over the the ENTIRE BENT ROD LENGTH.................. NOT on a single spot of the rod. If a triangular WEDGE was placed at 1 point of the rod ? Now we are causing a point fracture failure. Loads of well known bass pros catch Tarpon in Florida on their bass setups. NOT 1 of them bends the rod in a U. They are pointing the rods almost straight at the fish during the early part of a long battle. The rod is to cushion sudden yanks of the fish and allow more time for the drag to start slipping. If you remember when a Tarpon jumps. Many people point the rod RIGHT AT the direction the line is at. The fish has no weight on the rod. The reel drag is taking all the force. Quote
garroyo130 Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 3 hours ago, cyclops2 said: The reason the rod DOES NOT BREAK ? ALL of the pull is SPREAD OUT over the the ENTIRE BENT ROD LENGTH.................. NOT on a single spot of the rod. If a triangular WEDGE was placed at 1 point of the rod ? Now we are causing a point fracture failure. Loads of well known bass pros catch Tarpon in Florida on their bass setups. NOT 1 of them bends the rod in a U. They are pointing the rods almost straight at the fish during the early part of a long battle. The rod is to cushion sudden yanks of the fish and allow more time for the drag to start slipping. If you remember when a Tarpon jumps. Many people point the rod RIGHT AT the direction the line is at. The fish has no weight on the rod. The reel drag is taking all the force. Honestly you should just settle this by lifting a full gallon of milk and recording it for all to see. That'll show em'! Quote
padon Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 back to the original question , you will be fine with a medium.alot of people me included use a medium light because its easier to make subtle movements of the bait without lifting the sinker.you can still do it witha medium you just have to pay aliitle closer attention. the more you use the rod the more in tiuch you will be with what your bait is doing. Quote
Big Hands Posted February 23, 2022 Posted February 23, 2022 I use both a M/F and a ML/F for dropshotting. For me, the biggest difference is that the ML/F will cast lighter baits a little easier and/or a little further. I used only M/F rods for that for quite a while, and it was fine. I actually have three M/F rods primarily used for dropshotting, but If I could only have two rods for that use instead of. . . . four. . . . I would keep one M/F and one ML/F because they are slightly difference and I can take advantage of the that versatility in some situations. Horses for courses, blah, blah, blah. But, if I could only have one, either would be fine for that use and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. 1 Quote
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