BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted February 9, 2022 BassResource.com Administrator Posted February 9, 2022 Brand new video, just posted! 6 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 9, 2022 Super User Posted February 9, 2022 Since I was a very early user of the term “pre spawn” in 1974, my intent was to define the spawn cycle into 3 stages; Pre Spawn, Spawn and PostvSpawn. Pre Spawn is simply the period “before” the cruisers, bedding or egg laying spawn cycle. The was any intent to go beyond that into egg development etc. I grew bass at Big Bear lake in Southern California mountains at 7,200’ elevation. Bass at Big Bear spawned during May/June when the water was above 60 degrees at bed depth. When we moved about 130 miles north to the San Fernando Valley area of So Cal, the climate was very different. Big Bear freezes over during winter do to it’s micro climate is very cold. The sunlight photoperiod and length of days are identical, so I concluded the difference must be water temperature related. All our local coastal SoCal lakes the spawn starts between March to April when the water temps hit the low 60 degree temperature, same as Big Bear but 2 to 3 months earlier. Water temps warming from the cold water period 50 degrees or less and start warming 50 degrees or more the “pre spawn” generally starts and bass move up in the water column to fatten up for the spawn bedding period. As Glenn correctly noted weather directly affects water temperature, cold air and wind lower it. Moon phase affect is real. The 5 days around full moon tend to trigger the 1st wave of bed fish when the water column temperatures has settled down. Bass tend behave as individual fish, we can predict the spawn cycle in generalities. Having observed bass behavior for nearly all my life I stand by my 1974 Calendar based on water temps. I target big pre spawn bass when the water temps hit 55 to degrees successfully for decades. No 2 years are the same do to weather but within a month where I fish. Tom 7 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 9, 2022 Global Moderator Posted February 9, 2022 I’ll play the role of smarty pants: pre spawn and post spawn both technically start when they are done spawning……… unless of course they take a year off, which does happen 1 Quote
Skunkmaster-k Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 Hello Glenn. I was wondering if you have ever interviewed Tom. I think that would make a great video. Just a thought 5 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said: Hello Glenn. I was wondering if you have ever interviewed Tom. I think that would make a great video. Just a thought I also agree that an interview with Tom would be great... 1 Quote
cyclops2 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 In my bay. Prespawn occurs weeks before spawn. 2 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 When does prespawn happen? a) After the spawn b) During the spawn c) April 1st d) Before the spawn e) None of the above Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 10, 2022 Global Moderator Posted February 10, 2022 39 minutes ago, Deleted account said: When does prespawn happen? a) After the spawn b) During the spawn c) April 1st d) Before the spawn e) None of the above A, C, and D . Final answer Regis…….. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: A, C, and D . Final answer Regis…….. Should have phoned a friend... 6 Quote
Super User Bird Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 The ice is getting very very thin and 50's are dominating the forecast. We're launching the boat next week for sure but even though we'll be fishing well before the spawn, in my mind it's not pre-spawn. I expect the water temps to be in mid 30's. I had my best day ever as a bass fisherman 2 years ago and my fish finder read 58* so that temp sticks in my head as the height of the pre-spawn around here. I'm definitely not a Bass fishing guru like so many here are but I simply troll around a lake and read water temps and fish accordingly until the actual spawn. 1 Quote
cyclops2 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 Bird Your last 2 paragraphs are the same for my bay area. Thanks for the conformation. Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Bird said: I expect the water temps to be in mid 30's. Water in our area seldom gets below mid to high 30s, even in the middle of a cold winter. We had ice in a local pond last week, and yesterday there were two turtles getting very romantic. Caught the first post spawn pickerel along with 11 others yesterday, and they were acting like they wanted to get busy too. I didn't have a thermometer, but the water didn't feel cold at all. Quote
cyclops2 Posted February 10, 2022 Posted February 10, 2022 I have had deer mowing some type of winter grass growing until this week in N J. But The Delaware River is iced up in places. Very different winter. Quote
Super User Catt Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) It'll happen before most anglers think Everyone points to the fact the bass will make a push shallower & depending in the size of the body of water into creek channel coves. Think about this for a minute On most bodies of water there are fish already shallow or at least close by. There are resident bass in most creek channel coves. Would it not make sense for these bass move into pre-spawn/spawn first? Edited February 10, 2022 by Catt Operator Error 2 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 The water in my favorite lake has been 65 - 70 degrees all winter. They have been in the shallows all winter. No need to transition. Right now they are spread out, and tough to catch. I don't know when they spawn, I have never seen a bed, but the water only has a foot of visibility half the year. I have much better luck finding and catching them, in June, when they school up in deeper water. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 10, 2022 Super User Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Catt said: It'll happen before most anglers think Yup, what most folks are describing or think of as pre spawn, is the last part of it. The day you "caught them like crazy", or "was on fire" is an indication that the spawn is right around the corner. The biggest fish are caught way before that. 3 hours ago, king fisher said: The water in my favorite lake has been 65 - 70 degrees all winter. They have been in the shallows all winter. No need to transition. Right now they are spread out, and tough to catch. I don't know when they spawn, I have never seen a bed, but the water only has a foot of visibility half the year. I have much better luck finding and catching them, in June, when they school up in deeper water. Good point. I don't know if it happens in Mexico, but where they have been introduced in crazy hot climates (technical term) they actually spawn as the temperature drops into spawning range. I read a paper on it a while back. 1 1 Quote
txchaser Posted February 11, 2022 Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 7:47 PM, Skunkmaster-k said: Hello Glenn. I was wondering if you have ever interviewed Tom. I think that would make a great video. Just a thought Yes, do this please @Glenn 8 hours ago, Deleted account said: Yup, what most folks are describing or think of as pre spawn, is the last part of it. The day you "caught them like crazy", or "was on fire" is an indication that the spawn is right around the corner. The biggest fish are caught way before that. 100% I'm a believer that most start fishing the pre-spawn too late. Fine by me 2 Quote
cyclops2 Posted February 11, 2022 Posted February 11, 2022 Most females go on a eating binge as delivery day gets closer. Deer, people and fish. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 11, 2022 Super User Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, cyclops2 said: Most females go on a eating binge as delivery day gets closer. Deer, people and fish. So maybe GP works so well cause it looks like a pickle?.. Quote
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