EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 anyone have any experience with these, specifically in 3/32oz weight with a fluke? 1 Quote
Finessegenics Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 I only had the chance to play with them once. I did not put it on a fluke unfortunately but what I did notice is that they still allow the plastic to fall in the same path as they would weightless because of the placement of the lead on the hook. So I imagine they’d work well for a fluke in deeper water. I’m not sure how it would affect the slashing motion a fluke is known for though. 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 Not with a fluke...I only fish flukes weightless... But, I have used this hook with creatures and paddletails. I am an Owner fanatic....love, love love their hooks....and yet, this isn't my favorite. I found that hookups just weren't great unless I bend the point out a bit. Fine line between getting the point up without creating a snag magnet. This is one of the few applications where I'm more likely to recommend a Gammy Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, Choporoz said: Not with a fluke...I only fish them weightless... But, I have used them with creatures and paddletails. I am an Owner fanatic....love, love love their hooks....and yet, this isn't my favorite. I found that hookups just weren't great unless I bend the point out a bit. Fine line between getting the point up without creating a snag magnet. This is one of the few applications where I'm more likely to recommend a Gammy slowly switching over a lot of my hooks to owner. i do prefer to fish flukes weightless, but for a different look in deeper water i was considering this as an alternative to weightless 3 minutes ago, Finessegenics said: I only had the chance to play with them once. I did not put it on a fluke unfortunately but what I did notice is that they still allow the plastic to fall in the same path as they would weightless because of the placement of the lead on the hook. So I imagine they’d work well for a fluke in deeper water. I’m not sure how it would affect the slashing motion a fluke is known for though. the more i think about it, the more i think that sacrificing the action might not be worth it Quote
Finessegenics Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, EWREX said: slowly switching over a lot of my hooks to owner. i do prefer to fish flukes weightless, but for a different look in deeper water i was considering this as an alternative to weightless the more i think about it, the more i think that sacrificing the action might not be worth it Are you looking on methods to fish a fluke deeper? If so, insert a pagoda type weight behind the “eyes” of the fluke but above the eye of the hook. Or just anywhere in that general area where it stays lodged. The bait will tend to fall more nose down but it will still have that dart and spin when slashing. You’re still limited to how deep you can truly go but I’ve done this with 1/32 up to 3/32 oz nail weights. Tungsten also makes this easier since the weight is much smaller. A lead 3/32 oz weight is kinda hard to fit up there. 1 Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Finessegenics said: Are you looking on methods to fish a fluke deeper? If so, insert a pagoda type weigh behind the “eyes” of the fluke but above the eye of the hook. Or just anywhere in that general area where it stays lodged. The bait will tend to fall more nose down but it will still have that dart and spin when slashing. You’re still limited to how deep you can truly go but I’ve done this with 1/32 up to 3/32 oz nail weights. Tungsten also makes this easier since the weight is much smaller. A lead 3/32 oz weight is kinda hard to fit up there. nail weighting the nose of the bait definitely sounds like a more practical method 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 I have been using them for a couple of years. They work great for soft jerk baits & flukes. I use the 6/0 size mostly. I occasionally use them for worms. 1 Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dwight Hottle said: I have been using them for a couple of years. They work great for soft jerk baits & flukes. I use the 6/0 size mostly. I occasionally use them for worms. 6/0 for what size fluke? Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 Mags & super flukes. The 6/0 size is really not much bigger than the 5/0 by comparison but increases the hook gap a little. 2 Quote
Super User FryDog62 Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 The 4/0 Twistlock Light 3/32 oz hook with a 5 inch Caffeine Shad is the single best lure/hook combination I have ever used. So much better than a standard fluke. The action on its own after you twitch it a couple times is other worldly ~ 5 Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, FryDog62 said: The 4/0 Twistlock Light 3/32 oz hook with a 5 inch Caffeine Shad is the single best lure/hook combination I have ever used. So much better than a standard fluke. The action on its own after you twitch it a couple times is other worldly ~ awesome to hear! i'm looking for some alternatives to fish from the back of the boat on the st. lawrence this june that will present the fish with something different looking 1 Quote
PressuredFishing Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 I have, its not a terrible method if you have grass and its a gusty day and you need to get it down, gusty days are fishy days anyways, although in those conditions I try to get away with a jerkbait first because they have sticky trebles and trebles usually have a better hookup than trigs, but if grass is to thick or they dont like the profile yes I do enjoy this method. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted February 8, 2022 Global Moderator Posted February 8, 2022 I use keel weighted hooks only for paddle swim baits…Skinny Dippers and Big EZ When using flukes I like a nail weight either in the back for horizontal fall or in the nose as others have said fir more of a vertical one and used mostly as a jerk bait Mike 2 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, EWREX said: i'm looking for some alternatives to fish from the back of the boat on the st. lawrence this june that will present the fish with something different looking Try a drop shot, they probably don't see that often up there... Perchy/bluegill swim jig with a fat albert on it, or a live lined goby. 1 Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Deleted account said: Try a drop shot, they probably don't see that often up there... Perchy/bluegill swim jig with a fat albert on it, or a live lined goby. lol drop shot, ned rig, hairjig, wacky rig, and a tube are already going to be tied on. unfortunately i can't live line a goby in a B.A.S.S derby ? Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, EWREX said: lol drop shot, ned rig, hairjig, wacky rig, and a tube are already going to be tied on. unfortunately i can't live line a goby in a B.A.S.S derby ? Oh for $? There may still be some fish on beds, and d-shot/livescope of course. I wouldn't waste time doing anything else. How close will you be to Clayton? Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Deleted account said: Oh for $? There may still be some fish on beds, and d-shot/livescope of course. I wouldn't waste time doing anything else. How close will you be to Clayton? it's the BASS nation regional june 18th-25th. we're launching out of waddington. general consensus is that fish will be on beds and with me being a co-angler, bed fishing might be tough since i'm sure my boater will be dialed in on beds in front of him. i already know a dropshot with a flat worm will be in my hand 90% of the time 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, EWREX said: it's the BASS nation regional june 18th-25th. we're launching out of waddington. general consensus is that fish will be on beds and with me being a co-angler, bed fishing might be tough since i'm sure my boater will be dialed in on beds in front of him. i already know a dropshot with a flat worm will be in my hand 90% of the time Gotcha, good luck. 1 Quote
EWREX Posted February 8, 2022 Author Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Deleted account said: Gotcha, good luck. thanks! appreciate it. first time on the river so i'm hoping it goes well. should be a fun experience nonetheless Quote
Bass Rutten Posted February 8, 2022 Posted February 8, 2022 1 hour ago, FryDog62 said: The 4/0 Twistlock Light 3/32 oz hook with a 5 inch Caffeine Shad is the single best lure/hook combination I have ever used. So much better than a standard fluke. The action on its own after you twitch it a couple times is other worldly ~ +1, I stumbled upon this combination a few years ago, that shimmy is as good as a senko. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted February 8, 2022 Super User Posted February 8, 2022 I use these hooks more than any other. 4/0-6/0. 6/0 in baits like a Skinny Dipper, Champ Swimmer, and most other 5" torpedo shaped swimmers. 5/0 in a 5" Caffeine shad, 4/0 or 5/0 in a Little Dipper, depending, 5/0 in a 4.2" Hazedong Shad, 6/0 in a Bandito Bug, and on and on. The 6/0 in a 6" BPS Stick-O has a great horizontal shimmy on the fall and is a good alternative to a soft jerkbait. Great when you need to launch one far and get through pad fields and junk, and won't get shredded like a GY senko will. However, they will rust very quickly if left in extra salty baits like GYs. I just pull the hook back through those plastics, rinse them in water, then hang them to dry with the spring lock left installed in the nose. This will really extend the life of the hook. 1 1 Quote
padon Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 i use them with a 1/16 ounce weight when fishing a fluke in current. may take away a slight bit of action but i have to get it down before the current takes it away and i catch a ton of fish on them in the susquehanna river every year. 1 Quote
rtwvumtneer6 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 I use the 3/32 VMC Drop Dead with flukes with success. It'll shimmy on the fall, but still light enough to work it high in the water column. I use the Owner Weighted TwistLOCK with a CPS with swimbaits as a topwater. They make a good hook. Think you'll be happy, but can't speak for the gauge/strength of the "light" version. 1 Quote
AManWearingAHat Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 Love the owners, on a fluke they saved me from getting skunked a few times. Quote
jkurtz7 Posted February 9, 2022 Posted February 9, 2022 I use these hooks with Senko’s, Rage Bugs, and Rage Cut R worms. I really like these hooks, never had an issue with them. Quote
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