First Foray Into BFS

[PhishLI]

2 minutes ago, PressuredFishing said:

I'd rather take that then below, way easier to cut and retie a wind knot

I actually got that wind knot out at home using dental picks. Took about 20 minutes. 15lb PP SS. I was throwing an elaztech french fry with one tiny split shot. It was bound to happen. Honestly, I haven't seriously backlashed on a cast in ages, unless I clip a branch while the lure's on the ascent or if I snag something on the back cast. I already have a few reels that are kissing BFS territory with 10 gram spools. I'll be playing with real BFS soon. I'm not worried one bit.

[JustJames]

9 hours ago, Big Rick said:

You're right, it is. However, that just happened to be what I had handy to throw. I will go lighter to see just how well my new setup will handle it. My ultimate goal of this venture is 1/8 oz. I don't fish any lighter than that on casting gear. So, don't base your opinions or ideas of BFS on my experiences as they are limited and will stay that way....

Congratulations for you new rigs and more adventures to come. Use whatever you enjoy and however you want to use it. BFS or those “BSF” is just a name as long as it help you achieve your goal, nobody else business. I for one will not use spinning with some lures like 1/8oz road runner, kastmaster, lipless crank, fluke and weightless worm (the lure that trends to spin when cast or fast retrieve and the lure that slack or semi slack line can happen)

 

1 hour ago, PressuredFishing said:

Enjoy ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I'd rather take that then below, way easier to cut and retie a wind knot than toy around with a BSf backlash lol 

One is a nature to happen to most every one, another is preventable once you become better thumb educated.

[PressuredFishing]

57 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

One is a nature to happen to most every one, another is preventable once you become better thumb educated.

I'm just teasing I use bfs as well and Enjoy using it, but in all reality a size 18 ball bearing swivel prevents this from happening on spinning reels completely even in high wind and light lures, and even having an educated thumb many people including the pros backlash a lot, and I mean a lot. I'd say the best caster in the world gets an overrun over 100 casts.

1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

actually got that wind knot out at home using dental picks.

Awesome!  I've been using tiny size 18 bb swivels and it has solved 100% of wind knot problems, and btw I love bfs as well but I love teasing as well

[JustJames]

Again well educated thumb and a suitable setup reel can prevent some backlash. Yes backlash happened to everyone less or more but better to educate your thumb than choosing easy way out like recommending spinning.

Im not saying I’m better than you or anyone else here but I accept myself challenge. I fish super fluke in 25 mph wind gut (cross wind)with alphas SV Tw yes I got a few professional overrun that can be fixed easily. I got distance and workable lure that spinning not gonna stand a chance. I was only one fishing and ppl looked at me like I were a maniac. I caught 3-4 fish plus a 4lber though.

 

[PhishLI]

33 minutes ago, PressuredFishing said:

I've been using tiny size 18 bb swivels and it has solved 100% of wind knot problems,

Too bad the bass here are swivel-shy.?

[PressuredFishing]

27 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

but better to educate your thumb than choosing easy way out like recommending spinning.

Live in socal as well and it gets insanely windy, although I think the reason bfs has the stigma is because of the price in comparison to spinning, not because of uneducated thumbs. Bfs is not affordable unless you go the cdm route which isn't terrible, or the kk route and I'll never buy another kk reel again because of their tick poor custom service, in a nutshell I paid 10 bucks for some replacement parts on a reel that broke, took 3 months for them to get here from China, then they sent the wrong parts. Messaged them and they didn't even want to give me a refund until I threatened to tell PayPal to charge back. I'd rather buy an aliexpress brand. Enough of my tangent anyways.

[PressuredFishing]

21 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

Too bad the bass here are swivel-shy.?

Really? Size 18 is really small, about the size of a size 10 pqnfish hook. I fish gen clear water with some of the most pressured fish in the country and they don't mind to terribly much

[PhishLI]

1 minute ago, PressuredFishing said:

Really?

No, not really, Silly.

[PressuredFishing]

1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

No, not really, Silly.

Silly bo Billy ? 

[JustJames]

On 2/7/2022 at 5:22 PM, PressuredFishing said:

Live in socal as well and it gets insanely windy, although I think the reason bfs has the stigma is because of the price in comparison to spinning, not because of uneducated thumbs. Bfs is not affordable unless you go the cdm route which isn't terrible, or the kk route and I'll never buy another kk reel again.

Again with your silly comments about cost of BFS just like last time when you said you have to have 600 dollars bfs setup. Cost has nothing to do with this if you know what you are doing. For god sake my spinning reels are more expensive than my baitcasters, BFS if I can say so. My bluegill spinning setup cost as much if not more compare to bass setup. And no I did not say I’m better than those with cheaper setup. I like what I like, I enjoy what I spent and that I can afford.

Oh btw, I never considered myself a BFS guy, I just use what I like and think suitable for its job.

If you don’t enjoy BFS, understandable but don’t judge those ppl that enjoy. OP already bought his setup and what you want him to do??? I think we are here to help and support.

For example my bluegill setup, Daiwa Tatula, MC speedstyle

Bass BFS setup cheap Abu Revo + shallow spool and budget MC rod. 
Don’t make me get into crappie setup I have 4-5 in spinning and 4-5 in baitcasters.

 

[PressuredFishing]

13 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Again with your silly comments about cost of BFS just like last time when you said you have to have 600 dollars bfs setup

It was not my intention to offend you, I think you may be taking my comments too personally

 

14 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Cost has to do nothing with this if you know what you are doing.

Again I am not saying this as a personal attack towards you, but cost has everything to do with bfs having a stigma, not a skill gap

 

16 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

For god sake my spinning reels are more expensive than my baitcasters, BFS if I can say so

That must be a very expensive spinning combo, but the difference is that the entry cost into bfs is much higher than spinning, not that there aren't any expensive spinning reels

 

18 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

And no I did not say I’m better than those with cheaper setup.

I would never assume so, and am sorry if you interpreted otherwise

 

19 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

I enjoy what I spent and that I can afford

Absolutely, my point was that others that may make less money cannot afford the bfs entry cost

 

20 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

If you don’t enjoy BFS, understandable but don’t judge those ppl that enjoy.

P.S (maybe you didn't read, but I mentioned above I enjoy bfs, I mentioned that above)

 

21 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

already bought his setup and what you want him to do??? I think we are here to help and support.

He asked for my opinion and I gave it, I'm not going to say it's all puppies and kittens because it isn't, again by no means am I trying to start a flame war or upset you, but I am simply awnsering questions

2 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Again well educated thumb and a suitable setup reel can prevent some backlash

Again I think you are missing the message. People are not using spinning because they cannot conteoll a baitcaster but they are using it because they cannot afford a bfs combo. Maybe you forgot but a large part of the fishing community has a budget and can only afford a 100$ combo,  and many can only afford a Walmart combo.

31 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Bass BFS setup cheap Abu Revo + shallow spool and budget MC rod.

For a large portion of the fishing community this would be a high end expensive combo, I really hope you understand people may not make as much as you.

[bulldog1935]

random display of even more "elitist" tackle

 

and the "sinners" who use it...

"...and put us on fish"

[Big Rick]

Well, I certainly didn't intend to spark a verbal sparring match here. It's obvious that BFS is somehow inferior to some. It's just another way to catch a fish and another reason to expand my horizons in a hobby I thoroughly enjoy, fishing. 

 

I asked for some advice. I got some advice, really good and well thought out advice. I acted on that advice and bought what was suggested. I thought I'd let everyone know how it turned out for me, as I really enjoy reading about the experiences of new gear and new techniques: really the only reason I am on this board. 

 

So, let's smooth our feathers down and dial it back a notch. I appreciate critical thinking and freedom of speech, I just don't want Irene or LOCKDOWN, or scene, or any of the others to show up and shut down what should be a conversation on experiences with BFS gear instead of defending or being offended because one prefers a certain setup and downgrades another due to perceived or imagined realities. 

 

Thanks,

Big Rick

[redmeansdistortion]

49 minutes ago, Big Rick said:

Well, I certainly didn't intend to spark a verbal sparring match here.

It kinda comes with the territory that is BFS.  The first thing most people look at when it comes to BFS are higher cost JDM reels, so they assume it's some kind of elitist venture.  It doesn't have to be, lots of cheaper reels as well as spools for existing reels are available that can cost considerably less than a JDM BFS reel itself.  It's simply another way to catch a fish, that's all.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Fishing is all about having fun, and BFS is a rather new and exciting method of fishing.

[WC53]

Cheap BFS is a zephyr/clamber and an Ugly Stik.   I guess we should delete all the Dobyn’s and NRX+ threads  Not too mention Megabass and reels.  Darn elitists.  My Zillion is the most expensive reel I have ever bought. In my 60’s, I decided why not.  BFS suits my style of fishing.

 

BFS is fun, ymmv, thankfully there are lots of traditional threads so all tastes are covered.

 

Please excuse the sarcasm, I’m cranky because it is cold and rainy and I can’t take my new rod out to play.

[redmeansdistortion]

1 minute ago, WC53 said:

Please excuse the sarcasm, I’m cranky because it is cold and rainy and I can’t take my new rod out to play

At least you don't have ice on the water lol

[Eric 26]

1 hour ago, Big Rick said:

Well, I certainly didn't intend to spark a verbal sparring match here. It's obvious that BFS is somehow inferior to some. It's just another way to catch a fish and another reason to expand my horizons in a hobby I thoroughly enjoy, fishing. 

 

I asked for some advice. I got some advice, really good and well thought out advice. I acted on that advice and bought what was suggested. I thought I'd let everyone know how it turned out for me, as I really enjoy reading about the experiences of new gear and new techniques: really the only reason I am on this board. 

 

So, let's smooth our feathers down and dial it back a notch. I appreciate critical thinking and freedom of speech, I just don't want Irene or LOCKDOWN, or scene, or any of the others to show up and shut down what should be a conversation on experiences with BFS gear instead of defending or being offended because one prefers a certain setup and downgrades another due to perceived or imagined realities. 

 

Thanks,

Big Rick

As someone who doesn’t currently fish “bfs” I couldn’t agree with this sentiment anymore. Well said Big Rick. 

[WC53]

20 minutes ago, redmeansdistortion said:

At least you don't have ice on the water lol

You win , ?

[roadwarrior]

1 hour ago, Big Rick said:

Well, I certainly didn't intend to spark a verbal sparring match here. It's obvious that BFS is somehow inferior to some. It's just another way to catch a fish and another reason to expand my horizons in a hobby I thoroughly enjoy, fishing. 

 

I asked for some advice. I got some advice, really good and well thought out advice. I acted on that advice and bought what was suggested. I thought I'd let everyone know how it turned out for me, as I really enjoy reading about the experiences of new gear and new techniques: really the only reason I am on this board. 

 

So, let's smooth our feathers down and dial it back a notch. I appreciate critical thinking and freedom of speech, I just don't want Irene or LOCKDOWN, or scene, or any of the others to show up and shut down what should be a conversation on experiences with BFS gear instead of defending or being offended because one prefers a certain setup and downgrades another due to perceived or imagined realities. 

 

Thanks,

Big Rick

 

[JustJames]

@Big Rick sorry to make your post gone wrong. It just anytime there are post about “BFS”always some negative comments right of the batch. The thing is your post didnt ask for anyone opinion. You have done your research well, asked the one who know then decided to buy what you think best for you.  Now you just wanna share your new rigs and your joys with all of us, but still some wanna jumped in and doubt what you have already bought. It is still a short term to tell if you gonna achieve what you are looking for or hate it and decide to sell but at least for now we should respect and support your decision. 
If it is post to ask which one is better, I would stay understand but ridiculously some comments coming from ones that never tried BFS or wanna be.

Sorry again and I’ll stop myself for now.

 

[PressuredFishing]

27 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

 ridiculously some comments coming from ones that never tried BFS or wanna be.

I have mentioned I have used bfs before and enjoy it we are on the same team and fish the same fisheries, diversity of thought is not only good, but healthy and is the only way we learn, Im sorry you dont like me or my opinions, but I will always cherish you and your opinions

[bulldog1935]

Everybody here thinks you're a nice guy, that's not a problem. 

If I knew how to talk you down from this, I'd try, but even that would be off-topic. If I quote Jude, I'll get kicked off the forum. 

Rick has LEO skills to call on. 

This is a gear forum, the topic of this thread is specific gear.  It's not about people or "kinds" of people (there's no such thing) or what you think they're thinking, which never works - you can only think about what you're thinking. 

Stick to the gear and leave people out of it, or at least give them the benefit of the doubt, don't quote them out of context.

Gear and fish, and why the gear is fun to fish. 

If you can't say something good, don't...

 

[PressuredFishing]

14 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

don't quote them out of context.

The worst part about it is I haven't quoted him out of context

 

16 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

If I quote Jude, I'll get kicked off the forum. 

who's jude?

 

17 minutes ago, bulldog1935 said:

Stick to the gear and leave people out of it, or at least give them the benefit of the doubt, don't quote them out of context.

I always enter a forum thread with this mindset ^^^ although I will  hold people's feet to the fire though when they try to take scilent jabs at a decent portion of the community, if you don't they just keep on doing it and slink back into the abyss of the internet. I try my best to keep the conversation going even if it gets ugly as it has above because my end goal is to solve the disagreement and become friends even if it feels uncomfortable or takes a while.

[Eric 26]

Well before this thread gets “turned off” I’d like to say it inspired me to try “bfs” this spring/year. I want to give a thank you to @bulldog1935 who has been a HUGE inspiration in this whole “bfs” genre as have several others on here by sharing their gear especially the budget stuff. I can’t find the “post” but man if this works out I’m keeping my eye on the “Obsession” rod on “Ali Express”. With that said here’s my future setup, please feel free to share any thoughts/suggestions. Reel: Piscifun Saex Elite, it’s an “Ardent Elite” with dual brakes (not sure if Ardent has centrifugal) I bought it with a “spare” spool, a 6’-0” fast action/med. powered rod 1/8-1oz weight range ?and I’m planning on 7lb monofilament as I already have it. For lures I’m planning on mainly tried and true road runners in 1/16 oz range and panfish cranks. Looking forward to trying this out and until then hearing any advice. Lastly this doesn’t mean I’m giving up spinning gear? as I’m planning on appeasing the bait monkey with a new 7’-2” bps panfish elite rod this upcoming spring classic sale ?

[PressuredFishing]

1 hour ago, Eric 26 said:

Well before this thread gets “turned off” I’d like to say it inspired me to try “bfs” this spring/year. I want to give a thank you to @bulldog1935 who has been a HUGE inspiration in this whole “bfs” genre as have several others on here by sharing their gear especially the budget stuff. I can’t find the “post” but man if this works out I’m keeping my eye on the “Obsession” rod on “Ali Express”. With that said here’s my future setup, please feel free to share any thoughts/suggestions. Reel: Piscifun Saex Elite, it’s an “Ardent Elite” with dual brakes (not sure if Ardent has centrifugal) I bought it with a “spare” spool, a 6’-0” fast action/med. powered rod 1/8-1oz weight range ?and I’m planning on 7lb monofilament as I already have it. For lures I’m planning on mainly tried and true road runners in 1/16 oz range and panfish cranks. Looking forward to trying this out and until then hearing any advice. Lastly this doesn’t mean I’m giving up spinning gear? as I’m planning on appeasing the bait monkey with a new 7’-2” bps panfish elite rod this upcoming spring classic sale ?

Looks great, no reason why it shouldn't work, rods are the only thing the usdm market is missing.