How many strands do you think a braided line should have?

[OkobojiEagle]

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

 

but instead of being woven together, the strands are laid down and fused into a whole. It's a bit larger diameter per pound test than woven braid because of the manufacturing process.

 

 

In the interest of accuracy, I suggest you delete the above quoted information.

 

oe

[MN Fisher]

5 minutes ago, OkobojiEagle said:

In the interest of accuracy, I suggest you delete the above quoted information.

 

oe

From Berkley

"The thermally, micro-fused Dyeema® fibers "

https://www.berkley-fishing.com/pages/berkley-fishing-line-confusion

 

From In-Fisherman

"FireLine was introduced in 1996. It's not a braid (weave), rather a linear bundle of polyethylene micro Dyneema fibers that are thermally fused"

"By comparison, because of the thermal fusing, FireLine has a smoother exterior than braids. It also has slightly more diameter than comparable break-strength braids, although it's still very thin."

https://www.in-fisherman.com/editorial/fused-line-new-alternatives/153375

 

How much more accurate does it need to be?

[dodgeguy]

8 hours ago, Big Rick said:

Here you are, sir. At Tackle Warehouse. 

I meant the 131.  Already using 832 yellow.

Sufix 832 is dynema and 1gore strand. I hate the noise and roughness of 4 strands. The noise of the 8 strands is low. Sufix is also tightly braided which makes it more manageable.

[RDB]

21 hours ago, Kirt Howe said:

 

21 hours ago, Kirt Howe said:

21 hours ago, Kirt Howe said:

I admit to having limited experience with braided line.  So far, I am not very fond of it.  The braids I have used have been 4 strand.  I see some brands have more (6, or even 8 strands), and a couple are advertised as being "fused".  My questions are  1) Are more strands better? 2) What is the best material for a braid to be made from, and why? 3) Are "fused" braided lines better than regular stranded braided lines, and if so, how and why? I am not really looking for advice on what brand to buy. I am really looking for advice on the type of braid to buy, and why you recommend that type. Assume, for the sake of argument that money is no object  (yeah, like that is really a thing). Thanks! 

I wouldn’t make it too complicated.  As a general rule, higher fiber, carrier, strand (whatever you want to call it) lines are smoother, have less noise and friction, and usually cast better.  Low fiber, carrier, strand… are typically rougher and cut through vegetation well.  Kind of like off road tires v. highway tires.  Stick with a quality name and you’ll be fine.  Just make sure you spool it tighter.

[clemsondds]

On 2/5/2022 at 4:30 PM, dodgeguy said:

I meant the 131.  Already using 832 yellow.

Sufix 832 is dynema and 1gore strand. I hate the noise and roughness of 4 strands. The noise of the 8 strands is low. Sufix is also tightly braided which makes it more manageable.

 

On 2/5/2022 at 9:10 PM, RDB said:

I wouldn’t make it too complicated.  As a general rule, higher fiber, carrier, strand (whatever you want to call it) lines are smoother, have less noise and friction, and usually cast better.  Low fiber, carrier, strand… are typically rougher and cut through vegetation well.  Kind of like off road tires v. highway tires.  Stick with a quality name and you’ll be fine.  Just make sure you spool it tighter.

Are you guys using braid for cranking?  Trying to figure out which braid:4,8, or 12...is better for deep cranking (if one wants to use braid for cranking).   Thanks! 

[dodgeguy]

32 minutes ago, clemsondds said:

 

Are you guys using braid for cranking?  Trying to figure out which braid:4,8, or 12...is better for deep cranking (if one wants to use braid for cranking).   Thanks! 

I use 50 LB 832 for cranking. It's 12 lb. Diameter. It offers protection in rocks that you don't get with thin braid. I never use braid less than 50 on a baitcaster.

[Bankc]

52 minutes ago, clemsondds said:

 

Are you guys using braid for cranking?  Trying to figure out which braid:4,8, or 12...is better for deep cranking (if one wants to use braid for cranking).   Thanks! 

I generally use 30#, 8 carrier.  But I've used heavier and lighter (only on spinning reels, 30# is as light as I'll go on a baitcaster) with great success.  

 

Which is better?  I would say the biggest trade off is: the thicker the line, the more shallow your crankbait will run.  However, the thinner the line, the more likely you are to get line dig in on the spool which can cause problems on your next cast.  How thin is too thin depends on things like how tightly your spool is wound, how heavy you set your drag, and just your general fishing habits.  I recommend going as light as you can get away with for the reduced drag.  But anything from 30# to 65# is probably in the ballpark for most people.  It's all kind of personal preference.  Just choose one and if it doesn't work out for you, you'll have learned something for next time.  

 

As for which carrier count is best, the higher the better for cranking.  The higher the carrier count, the more rounded the line will be and the less spool dig in you'll have to deal with.  Also, the smoother it will be, so it'll create less drag and allow the crankbait to run deeper.  And lastly, with all of that strain that a deep diving crank will put on your rod, the higher carrier counts will put less wear and tear on your line guides.  The only downside to higher carrier count is cost and it not cutting through vegetation as easily.  But if you're fishing a treble hook lure, you're probably not pulling it through thick vegetation.  

[softwateronly]

I agree with @Bankc  I use 8 carrier in 30lb w/ 10lb floro leader. It’s a great system for getting good depth on the retrieve and nice stop/starts when not grinding bottom. 
 

scott

[Darth-Baiter]

On 2/5/2022 at 4:04 AM, Finessegenics said:

i think OP would be better served by answering his question rather than arguing semantics 

hahahah..but that wont emphasize the superiorty complex...

i shop accordingly with respect to color.  hahah...

[clemsondds]

1 hour ago, softwateronly said:

I agree with @Bankc  I use 8 carrier in 30lb w/ 10lb floro leader. It’s a great system for getting good depth on the retrieve and nice stop/starts when not grinding bottom. 
 

scott

 

 

1 hour ago, Bankc said:

I generally use 30#, 8 carrier.  But I've used heavier and lighter (only on spinning reels, 30# is as light as I'll go on a baitcaster) with great success.  

 

Which is better?  I would say the biggest trade off is: the thicker the line, the more shallow your crankbait will run.  However, the thinner the line, the more likely you are to get line dig in on the spool which can cause problems on your next cast.  How thin is too thin depends on things like how tightly your spool is wound, how heavy you set your drag, and just your general fishing habits.  I recommend going as light as you can get away with for the reduced drag.  But anything from 30# to 65# is probably in the ballpark for most people.  It's all kind of personal preference.  Just choose one and if it doesn't work out for you, you'll have learned something for next time.  

 

As for which carrier count is best, the higher the better for cranking.  The higher the carrier count, the more rounded the line will be and the less spool dig in you'll have to deal with.  Also, the smoother it will be, so it'll create less drag and allow the crankbait to run deeper.  And lastly, with all of that strain that a deep diving crank will put on your rod, the higher carrier counts will put less wear and tear on your line guides.  The only downside to higher carrier count is cost and it not cutting through vegetation as easily.  But if you're fishing a treble hook lure, you're probably not pulling it through thick vegetation.  

Thanks!  What 8 carrier are you all using? 

[Bankc]

5 minutes ago, clemsondds said:

 

 

Thanks!  What 8 carrier are you all using? 

Usually Sufix 832.  But if I had the money, I'd probably go up to Sufix 131, which is the 13-strand version.  Though, I'm not married to it.  If I find a better deal with another brand, I could switch over.  I've used a lot of braids and while some are better than others, I've never ran across one that was bad.  To me, it's not like fluorocarbon line, where you HAVE to get a quality brand or else it's almost unusable.  

[clemsondds]

1 minute ago, Bankc said:

Usually Sufix 832.  But if I had the money, I'd probably go up to Sufix 131, which is the 13-strand version.  Though, I'm not married to it.  If I find a better deal with another brand, I could switch over.  I've used a lot of braids and while some are better than others, I've never ran across one that was bad.  To me, it's not like fluorocarbon line, where you HAVE to get a quality brand or else it's almost unusable.  

Thank you!  Are you using dark green or do you use more hi-viz for cranking? 

[softwateronly]

37 minutes ago, clemsondds said:

 

 

Thanks!  What 8 carrier are you all using? 

 
Most all is 20, 30 or 50lb power pro super slick. Found 2 big spools (1k yards?) on sale on Amazon a couple years back. I have some 65lb maxcuatro on my frogging setup. 
 

scott

[Hook2Jaw]

I've fished PowerPro, Kastking, 832 and Berkley X9 has been my favorite. 

[gulfcaptain]

It should have 8. 

[clemsondds]

12 hours ago, gulfcaptain said:

It should have 8. 

Cool thanks. Had a gc someone gave me for bps. So ordered smackdown, 131 and x8 grand..to give a try.  

[gulfcaptain]

2 hours ago, clemsondds said:

Cool thanks. Had a gc someone gave me for bps. So ordered smackdown, 131 and x8 grand..to give a try.  

If you're looking for brand, I tried 832....it's okay but not my fav. Found Pline tcb-8 and been fishing that line since 2017 exclusively.  My opinion  better line  then 832

[WRB]

21 hours ago, clemsondds said:

Thank you!  Are you using dark green or do you use more hi-viz for cranking? 

If you are considering using braid for crank baits look at YGK OH Dragon sinking braid. YGK is small diameter braid.

Tom

[JediAmoeba]

On 2/5/2022 at 9:03 AM, MN Fisher said:

I'll see your 11 and raise you 2.

 

Sufix 131 - "Built with 13 fibers (12 HMPE fibers + 1 GORE® Performance Fiber in core)"

https://www.rapala.com/sufix/braid/131-braid/sufix-131-braid-fishing-line/Sufix+131+Braid+Fishing+Line.html

 

Basically the 'big brother' to 832. Ya, it's up there with Smackdown in price, but comes in 6# to 80#

And it's really good. I am liking it - using it on my BFS rod and a couple moving bait rods now

[Dan Strain]

On 2/5/2022 at 8:12 AM, MN Fisher said:

Just Lo-Vis Green for now...they might add more colors in time.

I love 131 so much that I’ve been buying the 131 neon chartreuse from Europe / or  EBay. I don’t understand why they don’t offer it in the US.
 

 

[ska4fun]

The best compromise between traction and abrasion resistance. 6 strands, maybe?