Recoil Guides

[rtwvumtneer6]

Is anyone using them?  Thoughts?  

 

Looks like Loomis has offered them, but outside of custom builds are any other manufactures using them?

 

Seem like a good idea, but feedback I have seen wasn't great...

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

I think St Croix used/uses them. I use them on float rods that have constant line going in and out with no issues. They are super light and tough. They can make a harmonic buzz with course braid running through. 

[flyfisher]

I have them on a couple of my St. Croix rage rods and I have no complaints.

[rtwvumtneer6]

1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

They can make a harmonic buzz with course braid running through. 

I think I could deal with that.  I remember how noisy braid was when I first started using it.  Now I don't even hear it.  

[FishTank]

I have several rods with them.  The first one was my favorite... A G. Loomis 803C GLX JWR.  It was the original.  I broke it in a car window. I used Loomis's Xpeditor Service and was sent a new updated version without the Recoil Guides. It was sort of a step down.  The Recoil Guides made the rod perfect.  Not sure how but I could definitely tell the difference between the two. Overall, I like them.  I don't understand why people seem to think there is something wrong or bad about them. 

[rtwvumtneer6]

1 minute ago, FishTank said:

I don't understand why people seem to think there is something wrong or bad about them. 

That's the same impression I got.  Now I'm trying to figure out why they aren't more popular ??‍♂️

[FishTank]

1 minute ago, rtwvumtneer6 said:

That's the same impression I got.  Now I'm trying to figure out why they aren't more popular ??‍♂️

 

I think at one time people thought they were soft and braid would cut into them.  My guess it was someone using 50+lb braid with the drag locked down and tried to winch out a lure.  This would cut into just about any guide or break the rod in the process.  I have used braid with them and never had an issue.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Modern braid and modern guides play well together. It’s never been actual braid that damaged guides but the gritty contamination. 

[jbsoonerfan]

Never owned a rod with them, but when I first saw them on a GLX in Bass Pro, I was in love. Thats was back when I had a wife and a toddler and those were not in my budget, LOL.

[Steveo-1969]

I have two G. Loomis spinning rods that have all recoil guides (except the tip top). WPJR GLX 821s and 822s. They are super light and virtually indestructible. I use braid on both rods and haven’t noticed excessive noise. There’s also no wear from braid.

[TOXIC]

JLM Signature rods from bass pro used to have them.   I still have a few in my stash.  13 fishing I think made some for a while as well.  I think cost was a factor in doing away with them.  

[newapti5]

The first gen 13 Fishing Envy series, Black or Green, is equipped with recoil guides as well. Mine have no problem for leader knots or anything. 

[CountryboyinDC]

On 2/2/2022 at 10:18 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

It’s never been actual braid that damaged guides but the gritty contamination. 

I don't have a problem with that at all.  I do a lot of line washing (I call it fishing).

[dodgeguy]

On 2/3/2022 at 1:45 PM, TOXIC said:

JLM Signature rods from bass pro used to have them.   I still have a few in my stash.  13 fishing I think made some for a while as well.  I think cost was a factor in doing away with them.  

I had one and I loved it. Had less noise with braid than standard guides did. I am surprised more rods don't have them. I fish 50;lb Sufix 832 and never grooved a guide . I am one of those drag locked down guys also. I wish they made recoil micro guides.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

1 hour ago, dodgeguy said:

I had one and I loved it. Had less noise with braid than standard guides did. I am surprised more rods don't have them. I fish 50;lb Sufix 832 and never grooved a guide . I am one of those drag locked down guys also. I wish they made recoil micro guides.

They do. You can get them smaller than you’ve ever seen

[casts_by_fly]

I built a fair few fly rods with recoil guides when they first came out. Still have a Dan Craft 9’ 5wt with them and it’s one of the most responsive rods I’ve ever cast. I’ve not done a casting/spinning rod with them, but it would be a hard choice between them and titanium SiC tiny guides if I wanted a super light high performance rod. 
 

rick

[TOXIC]

I liked them in the guide service because inexperienced clients were always stepping on rods when they were fighting a fish.  The recoil guides had no inserts to break out. 

[rtwvumtneer6]

4 minutes ago, TOXIC said:

I liked them in the guide service because inexperienced clients were always stepping on rods when they were fighting a fish.

Great point.  That's always a fear when I get on someones boat.  Pretty sure I would offer to replace the rod of I did that.  Always find it funny when I get a guide and they start me out with the beater gear, and after a little bit of feeling me out, the rod locker opens up and the good stuff starts showing up on the deck ?